Rigging the election part two

[Wells]

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Edited March 2, 2017 by Wells

[Wells]

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Edited March 2, 2017 by Wells

[Aetherous]

This is questionable although very interesting...someone that claimed to be an analyst from the FBI posting anonymously on 4chan back in July:

http://i.cubeupload.com/rQSksv.png

While it doesn't address rigging the election, it does look at the election from a certain perspective. Something interesting is that this person claimed Trump was using textbook psychological operation tactics in his campaign.

[dawei]

This is questionable although very interesting...someone that claimed to be an analyst from the FBI posting anonymously on 4chan back in July:

 

http://i.cubeupload.com/rQSksv.png

 

While it doesn't address rigging the election, it does look at the election from a certain perspective. Something interesting is that this person claimed Trump was using textbook psychological operation tactics in his campaign.

 

Duh... and why polls can't predict this...  Some AI machines did...  

[MooNiNite]

Hitler was apparently a master at rigging elections.

http://giphy.com/gifs/G9Q32BIJJCM36

Edited December 3, 2016 by MooNiNite

[liminal_luke]

Imminent doom may or may not be upon us now, but there`s something in human character that likes to imagine it is. 

 

 

In most places, it's just knowing history, knowing what has already happened, that causes people to "imagine things."  

 

But to make fun of those who have a wider perspective instead of trying to understand where they're coming from might lower their chances to weather the storm when it's their turn to weather the storm.  

 

Taomeow,

 

Oops.  It looks like I fell into a connotational sinkhole with my use of the word "imagine."  I certainly didn`t mean to make fun of people like Brian (or yourself) whose perspective comes from wide reading and careful research.  I just meant that there`s something in human nature that leads some people to use their imaginal faculty to leap to worst case scenarios -- and that most of the time those scenarios don`t come to pass. Perhaps if I was from a country that was more war torn -- rather than a country that exports it`s war -- imminent civil unrest would seem more likely.

 

Could it happen?  Yes, it could.  And yes, it`s prudent to be prepared for all contingencies.  The article you linked to about the shadow government seems entirely plausible to me.  Right now it`s mostly covert.  Our communications are monitored but most people are either unaware or choose to put that awareness aside. And yet, most of the time, life rolls on.  I thought that our economy would collapse if Trump was elected.  Hell, I thought the sun wouldn`t rise if Trump was elected.  None of my dire imaginings have come to pass -- yet.  Perhaps it`s naivete to stand with TheLerner and bet against doom. I guess we`ll all see.  Anyway, I may be misguided and insufficiently informed but I`m not mean-spirited.  I don`t mean to make fun of anyone.

 

LL 

Edited December 3, 2016 by liminal_luke

[Taomeow]

LL,

 

I know.  Didn't mean you.  Who I meant are not people who quite reasonably dismiss doomsday scenarios arising as social memes of zero plausibility every five minutes.  I meant people who sweep all realistic scenarios (realistic because they already played out many times, albeit on a smaller scale, i.e. affecting hundreds of millions rather than billions, and elsewhere rather than here) under the same convenient rug of "conspiracy theories." 

 

Extremes converge.  To me, there's no difference between "conspiracy theorists" and "coincidence theorists."  Investigative researchers is who I listen to.  Heck, I am one.  And what I try to figure out is probabilities of events.  For some events, it is zero, for others, one, on a scale from zero to one.  Most fall somewhere  in between. Closer to "can never happen" or closer to "imminent."  

 

People who throw all possibilities onto the "imminent" side of the scale and people who throw them all onto the "can never happen" side are both wrong.  Wrong and either willfully ignorant (investigative research is work, unlike mindless listening to the brainwashing narratives, which for many is a form of fun I guess or else why would they?..), or willfully deceptive (for any number of reasons -- self-aggrandizing, gaining a sense of self-importance, or actually being plants, shills, disinformation agents), but I don't see much difference between them.  I also don't see how they are different from all those post-hippie "universal love" peddlers, the "sit back and love thy murderer and you will ascend to glory" motherfuckers, the "everything is hunky-dory" spiritual con artists.  Of which there's as many as of the doomsday peddlers, or more.

 

In any event, anyone is free to believe what they want to believe.  Beliefs are a dime a dozen.  Whether doomsday beliefs or rapture beliefs.  It's all the same to me.

 

I'm after accurate assessment of probabilities.  It's work, not fun.  But someone has to do it.  I can't possibly let anyone else do it for me because they've botched it in the past every single time.  Those who promised the golden age and those who expected the end of the world alike.  I have to sort things out for myself, and I can't turn away from my findings just because I don't like them, or rush into the true-believer mode just because I do like the best case scenario. 

 

But that's just me. 

[Wells]

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Edited March 2, 2017 by Wells

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[Brian]

Looks like payday has passed us by...

Like I said above, thelerner can keep his money -- and we can expect the contempt, civil unrest and violence to continue for the duration is of Trump's Administration. (How do we know that? Because the organized and well-funded protest groups tell us.)

Edited February 10, 2017 by Brian