awaken Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) I already practice for 27 years. No method is the method for me. I can do meditation in any positions. Position is not the key point. Shen and chi is the key point. If you are a beginner, you need a method. But the most important is the right concepts. If you do not have the right attitude about dan dao, any methods can not lead you to the right way. Because you are lack of 性功 nature goung. Only 命功 life goung will make you blind. If you want to be blind all your life, that is your choice. I come here to help the people who want to know the right direction. Edited December 5, 2016 by awaken 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeekerOfHealing Posted December 5, 2016 So, you mean it will happen automatic if you Wu Wei? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 If your breath is deep enough to go into kidney, you do not need and method. You just need to observe how the breath influence the chi. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) So, you mean it will happen automatic if you Wu Wei?If you do not know what is wu Wei, you would not get the right answer. Before I tell you the answer, you have to tell me what is wu Wei in your mind. If you don't know, no matter what I tell you, you can not understand what I said. Edited December 5, 2016 by awaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 If you are a beginner, you try to understand the one who already practiced for 27 years , you can not use your experience. So, don't try to understand me. It will make you confuse more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) If you want to know about breath, it is fine. If you want to understand me, it is not a good choice. Because I already have had too much changes. The way I practice now is not suitable for a beginner. If you want to learn how I practice, you must find your beginning point, but not my point. Everyone has his own beginning point. Everyone is different. For example, maybe your breath is long and his breath is short. You two can not have the same beginning point. It means you two can not use the same method. So the method you use depend on where you are. 法無定法 The method is not fixed. So what I teach is not a fixed method. I teach you how to let your own method come out by itself. I will teach you how to find the right direction and the method come out by itself. This way is not easy to learn. It need some quality of personality. A clear mind to see the real path. Not everyone has this kind of personality. Edited December 5, 2016 by awaken 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 If you are not a beginner, you can increase your chi by breath. And your chi can go around your body. What is your next step? The next step is light. You need to relax more to let light appear. If you already relax enough, at least you think you relax enough, but the light still not appear. I need to understand you more to find out what is wrong in your practicing. There are too many details. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Everyone has the different situations. But the same is the direction. Everyone should change in the same direction, or there would be something wrong. So what I teach is very different from other teacher. The only thing which does not change is changing. 不變即變 Edited December 5, 2016 by awaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 The way of changing has its own sequence. Breath is not the first one because some people's breath is short. After breath is chi, different kind of chi, hot , block, weak electricity, light ,etc. After chi is light After light is Hun dun. After Hun dun is suan quan. .... Not so simple, there are many details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) So this way is not easy to teach. It is impossible for me to teach you a method, and you just go home practice by yourself everyday. It is impossible. No way. I must know what you are changing. Is there something wrong with you? Is there any thing you misunderstand, so your changing is not appear? I would lead you until you can understand the rules of changing. The way of changing. So no single method Maybe observing is the way. 觀 Edited December 5, 2016 by awaken 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
opendao Posted December 5, 2016 See? How hard was that? These people used to constantly, adamantly and falsely claim that there is absolutely, positively no practical method in the books. Today they flipped like a flop. Its a Xmas miracle ladies and gents! if you have troubles to understand something and cannot ask what confuses you, then everything will be a miracle. Keep learning practical methods from the books, as thousands before. I said clearly what is in books. But I have touched about 5% of what needs to be known to have a success. There are many difficulties, it's only for you and mistaken-awaken everything is clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
opendao Posted December 5, 2016 Most of the readers here can't read Chinese , especially classical Chinese, better be more patient . Besides , to be fair , you have to differentiate people who claim to be followers of the WuLliu school from what really are expressed by the Wu and Liu masters in their writings. I think, the significance of WuLiu 's writings is their emphasize , much serious than others', on the importance of retaining of jing for attaining everlasting life , which I wonder whether any lady here can fully understand its meaning to us .. for example , Taomeow complained that we guys talk too much about this subject on this forum ,or my being sexist ,at least as a translator , when talking about it :-) valid point. Awaken doesn't even understand that she mixes up stages of practice like playing cards. But what mostly interesting is that she doesn't realize that women way is different. 27 years and even first stage is not done... Impressive result. I don't care. For me she looks like new creature of trolls here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kar3n Posted December 5, 2016 MOD TEAM NOTICE A friendly reminder of TDB Insult Policy. **** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 valid point. Awaken doesn't even understand that she mixes up stages of practice like playing cards. But what mostly interesting is that she doesn't realize that women way is different. 27 years and even first stage is not done... Impressive result. I don't care. For me she looks like new creature of trolls here. I know why there are so many people attack you You are very similar with some Chinese I saw in qq Your energy is very bad Your mind is Full of greedy Your life is not happy But I do not want to save you You are sick too much in mind No way to cure you It is impossible That is why will Liu is suitable for you The only thing you can do is keep lying Poor man Wish you luck Please do not show in my thread Your energy is too sick too feel 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 I am very glad that there only one liar here I saw too many liars in mainland China But here Only one Very good Not many Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 What I teach is the right way I have many male students Man and woman is the same Only a little bit different And I know where When I saw your posts I feel very bad energy A blind mind Very badly blind How poor Hope you are the only one here Others are very ok here If you do not agree with me Please do not come And do not lie please To see a liar is really bad Anyone can tell me how to get this crazy person away? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted December 5, 2016 Anyone can tell me how to get this crazy person away? Show him a good book and he will run away. They all hate good books. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 Wu Liu pai not only twist the Dan dao, but also twist a person's mind in this way How terrible But I would like to believe it is not with Liu pai's fault It is only a individual case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kar3n Posted December 5, 2016 Anyone can tell me how to get this crazy person away? ***MOD REPLY*** Just stop responding to him and pointing out what you view to be wrong with his system. Arguing and name calling does nothing more than drag you both down. **** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
opendao Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) ha ha. Lady, learn how to prove your words first, then accuse others in all sins. Your twists won't cover the lack of knowledge and facts you demonstrated. People are not blind. Edited December 5, 2016 by opendao 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 Show him a good book and he will run away. They all hate good books. Ha There are a lot of good books But my English is not good enough to translate them all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 ***MOD REPLY*** Just stop responding to him and pointing out what you view to be wrong with his system. Arguing and name calling does nothing more than drag you both down. **** Yes You are right Thanks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Good book Wu gen pian by chang bo Duan 爭知火裡好栽蓮 Got to know Plant the lotus in the fire Lotus: mandala Fire: middle Dan tian If you open middle Dan tian, Lotus mandala will appear When the inner view appear, Everyone who see it would know he or she is on the right way In the fake Dan dao school, You can not find what they mention about lotus mandala In Buddhism，法輪 means dharma wheels You can find the many pictures of dharma wheels on Internet But the fake Dan dao say the dharma wheels are ren-du We all know that when chi go circle in ren-du, there is no such kind of inner view There are only feelings But when you are in the real emptiness, you have no feeling of your body No breath No thoughts No hearing In the emptiness Lotus mandala appears If you follow the right way, not the fake Dan-dao way, the lotus mandala would appear Not only lotus mandala I hope you can see what I saw in emptiness Then you will know who is the liar Edited December 5, 2016 by awaken 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 In real Dan_dao, small medicine and big medicine is different from the fake Dan dao. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted December 5, 2016 When chi start to go into middle Dan tian, you can see 兔髓white rabbit core,it looks like full moon But if you have opened the middle Dan tian, your 先天真一之氣pre heaven real one chi will appear And then you will see the sight of emptiness Lotus mandala is one of the emptiness views The real full moon is one of them 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
