dawei Posted December 20, 2016 The previous comment of a tree is likely the most natural try... and if you won't try that, then you want more forceful methods? I still stand by this recommendation if your karmic destiny can follow a basic book: http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/40914-dr-yang-jwing-mings-best-book-to-start/?p=684642 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[email protected] Posted December 21, 2016 I tried to stand tree, but it took long time to begin to feel anything. How long is it optimal to stand from your point of view? And when? Rgrds, Ilya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted December 21, 2016 I tried to stand tree, but it took long time to begin to feel anything. How long is it optimal to stand from your point of view? And when? Rgrds, Ilya This is a question of Qi sensitivity to things... There is no right or wrong answer; there is only experience. If you're interested to explore Qi sensitivity training, look here: http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/41801-qigong-sensitivity-training-using-yi-quan/ But in general, start with palms facing each other... opening hands ( inhale) and closing in (exhale) with your breath... just focus on the palms center.... empty your mind, and let your body flow with Qi. You might feel a boundary form as you press inwards... if you do, then explore the roundness of that boundary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taijistudent Posted December 22, 2016 Lots of great ideas on this thread already. For me, I practice taiji. The more you repeat, the deeper the relaxation, the more readily the the energy flows. I would describe it as movement without effort. It is basically moving Qigong where you feel the energy from the outside moving your body. It cannot be willed with intention. It just comes when it comes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky Lionmouth Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Edited December 22, 2016 by Rocky Lionmouth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gendao Posted December 22, 2016 I tried to stand tree, but it took long time to begin to feel anything. How long is it optimal to stand from your point of view? And when? Rgrds, Ilya Like I said, until you've actively cleared your channels out, passively allowing qi to flow through them is an exercise in near-pointlessness... In this case, the optimal time to stand is 0, because it's largely a pointless waste of time. It's like watching and waiting for water to drip out of a faucet, without turning it on first... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uroboros Posted December 22, 2016 Like I said, until you've actively cleared your channels out, passively allowing qi to flow through them is an exercise in near-pointlessness... In this case, the optimal time to stand is 0, because it's largely a pointless waste of time. It's like watching and waiting for water to drip out of a faucet, without turning it on first... Indeed, this is why moving cultivation is so helpful. Along with dredging the channels. My personal opinion, though flawed it is, is that the question itself of "gathering" Qi is incorrect. We already have it, get it, make it, etc. The issue is more about function and flow. Does your energetic, physical, emotional, mental structure function in harmonious fashion? Does the Qi within your system flow smoothly when it should? Secondly, I think it is more...about cultivation itself. We don't gather a bunch of Qi into a TanTien, we transform and harmonize the function of the TanTien so it can by itself hold more Qi automatically/ function in a more efficient manner. Some ramblings to throw into the mix. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gendao Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Indeed, this is why moving cultivation is so helpful. Along with dredging the channels. Does the Qi within your system flow smoothly when it should? Well, compare the New Agey qigong versions to the more traditional systems... The traditional curriculums often include (or implicitly do by "requiring" prerequisite jibengong) a very rigorous, yoga-type, preliminary stretching/bodywork routine. Whereas most New Agey ones COMPLETELY OMIT THAT - and jump right into all the passive, slo-mo air swimming! When you can make your legs flexible like this (full splits), the energy can easily pass from the head to the toe. - Shaolin Shifu Shi Yanzi But if you're wayyy too stiff to even come close to the splits...then how can you expect energy to easily pass through your body??? Wishful thinking? Edited January 1, 2017 by gendao 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
