mindtooloud Posted December 25, 2016 is there anyway i can reach enlightenment with like installing a micro chip in my head, or eating a certain type of thing or maybe looking at a scroll? anything at all 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rainbowvein Posted December 25, 2016 Gaze at this image for the next 12 years. Then PM me in 2029 to share your results. Â Â 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted December 25, 2016 one lifetime. No shorter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIchael80 Posted December 25, 2016 Hi!  quite a few People woke up on a retreat of Lucia and Lorne Hoff. lucialorn.net  but of course one has to be ripe for that to happen. Afterwards there is a lot of winding down of old Patterns as the self deepens to itself.  they have also vids on YouTube where the silence can be felt if you are a Little sensitive. The talks they share are not for the thinking mind but for the real self (no knowledge is gained listening to them)  best Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted December 25, 2016 Woke up to what?  I hope it was to something nobler than just good feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtooloud Posted December 25, 2016 Nope. Â Not unless I can find a way to sell it... Â But then I'd have to find it first... Â how much? im willing to bargain 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtooloud Posted December 25, 2016 Gaze at this image for the next 12 years. Then PM me in 2029 to share your results. Â Â hmmmm sounds fishy, Â speaking of which omega 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtooloud Posted December 25, 2016 one lifetime. No shorter. an individual lifeime or an average? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtooloud Posted December 25, 2016 Hi!  quite a few People woke up on a retreat of Lucia and Lorne Hoff. lucialorn.net  but of course one has to be ripe for that to happen. Afterwards there is a lot of winding down of old Patterns as the self deepens to itself.  they have also vids on YouTube where the silence can be felt if you are a Little sensitive. The talks they share are not for the thinking mind but for the real self (no knowledge is gained listening to them)  best Michael did this retreat include drugs? i love drugs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted December 25, 2016 Building sand castles is the only other shortcut (other than the one rainbowvein offered...) Â Â Â But what's the rush? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtooloud Posted December 25, 2016 Building sand castles is the only other shortcut (other than the one rainbowvein offered...) Â Â Â But what's the rush? is this a reference to an old thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtooloud Posted December 25, 2016 Woke up to what? Â I hope it was to something nobler than just good feelings. at first i thought he literally meant woke up from literal slumber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIchael80 Posted December 25, 2016 SELF Wakes up to itselfSELF. Â Actually the experience for some is that of "waking up".....out of the experience of seperation to the eternal Self....as if one has slept all along. Â I have never been to their retreat but i am friend with someone who woke up on their retreat and know some others who also woke up. Â from their Website: Awakening is a permanent shift of the remembrance of the reality that i am consciousness itself. Â I would say it is a shift in self identification from the individual me to the source of all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) SELF Wakes up to itselfSELF. Â Actually the experience for some is that of "waking up".....out of the experience of seperation to the eternal Self....as if one has slept all along. Â I have never been to their retreat but i am friend with someone who woke up on their retreat and know some others who also woke up. Â from their Website: Awakening is a permanent shift of the remembrance of the reality that i am consciousness itself. Â I would say it is a shift in self identification from the individual me to the source of all. and how/why is waking up crucial and helpful to a person? Â So a person who wakes up enlarges identification at the same time realises or remembers the reality that he or she is consciousness itself - what does this actually mean? Â Edited December 25, 2016 by C T 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIchael80 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Hi CT!  i just recommended a website....nothing more. I am no teacher just share something here and there. :-) From their website:   The descriptions on the following pages are not descriptions of "spiritual experiences". ​They are either descriptions of the awakening process itself, shifting from one state of Consciousness to another, or descriptions of life lived in the Awakened state.  ​ There are higher states of Consciousness within Consciousness itself.  In each state, Consciousness has a different perspective, reality, knowledge and experience of Itself.  "Knowledge is structured in consciousness". ​ "Spiritual experiences" are temporary experiences of refined perception that can come and go.  Their purpose is to keep us on the path toward remembrance of Self.  "Awakening" is a permanent shift to the remembrance of the reality that "I am Consciousness itself".  Consciousness' shift to awakening to itself (within you) is very distinct and cannot be missed. The process of the shift and the intensity of the experience is different for each body/mind/nervous system, but the result is always and forever the same.  Awakening is another name for enlightenment and the person who started this post wanted to know about "quick ways". That is why i shared. Don't know how this could be helpful or crucial for a person. Just click on the blue "higher states of consciousness" there is enough info there. Best Michael Edited December 25, 2016 by MIchael80 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted December 25, 2016 is this a reference to an old thing?Yes but only in fun. The idea of a shortcut carries with it several assumptions.  First amongst them is the notion that a destination is the objective.  Another is that the standard route from "here" to "there" is clearly documented, against which a shortcut could be measured.  There are other assumptions built-in but those are sufficient for today; when my question in that previous post makes sense, the two assumptions above will make you smile. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bindi Posted December 25, 2016 Yes but only in fun.  The idea of a shortcut carries with it several assumptions.  First amongst them is the notion that a destination is the objective.  Another is that the standard route from "here" to "there" is clearly documented, against which a shortcut could be measured.  There are other assumptions built-in but those are sufficient for today; when my question in that previous post makes sense, the two assumptions above will make you smile.  What's wrong with a destination being the objective? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted December 26, 2016 What's wrong with a destination being the objective? What would be a likely destination then, in your view? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted December 26, 2016 Immortality, of course.  (I've heard that the shortcut involves blue food) there's a flower in Asia called Bunga Telang.  Its blue is a one of a kind blue never seen in any other flowers.  Locals would pick & use these flowers to make a natural food colour for desserts. And also as ornamental offerings to Hindu gods & deities.  There are currently studies being made on it being a cure for diabetes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted December 26, 2016 is there anyway i can reach enlightenment with like installing a micro chip in my head, or eating a certain type of thing or maybe looking at a scroll? anything at all  Practice until you have only the skin and a bit of flesh clinging to your bare bones. That will make sure you'll have gone past the delusion of the body.  Don't forget to smile in the meantime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wuchiclan Posted December 26, 2016 Some "shortcuts"cut out ALL media from your lifeeat only real foodrefrain from activities that damage you 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtooloud Posted December 26, 2016 SELF Wakes up to itselfSELF. Â Actually the experience for some is that of "waking up".....out of the experience of seperation to the eternal Self....as if one has slept all along. Â I have never been to their retreat but i am friend with someone who woke up on their retreat and know some others who also woke up. Â from their Website: Awakening is a permanent shift of the remembrance of the reality that i am consciousness itself. Â I would say it is a shift in self identification from the individual me to the source of all. is the retreat free? im a hermit wanna be with no money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtooloud Posted December 26, 2016 happy crispmas! holidays* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtooloud Posted December 26, 2016 Yes but only in fun. Â The idea of a shortcut carries with it several assumptions. Â First amongst them is the notion that a destination is the objective. Â Another is that the standard route from "here" to "there" is clearly documented, against which a shortcut could be measured. Â There are other assumptions built-in but those are sufficient for today; when my question in that previous post makes sense, the two assumptions above will make you smile. your words are so complicated and im uneducated, i will just assume that you are trying to say mcdonalds is god Share this post Link to post Share on other sites