Lost in Translation Posted October 6, 2018 A Guide to Basic Differences Between Left and Right Tue, Jan 17, 2017 Dennis Prager Source of Human Rights Left: government Right: the Creator Human Nature Left: basically good (Therefore, society is primarily responsible for evil.) Right: not basically good (Therefore, the individual is primarily responsible for evil.) Economic Goal Left: equality Right: prosperity Primary Role of the State Left: increase and protect equality Right: increase and protect liberty Government Left: as large as possible Right: as small as possible Family Ideal Left: any loving unit of people Right: a married father and mother, and children Guiding Trinity Left: race, gender and class Right: liberty, In God We Trust and e pluribus unum Good and Evil Left: relative to individual and/or society Right: based on universal absolutes Humanity’s Primary Division(s) Left: rich and poor; strong and weak Right: good and evil Ideal Primary Identity of an American Left: world citizen Right: American citizen How to Make a Good Society Left: abolish inequality Right: develop each citizen’s moral character View of America Left: profoundly morally flawed; inferior to any number of European countries Right: greatest force for good among nations in world history Gender Left: a social construct Right: male and female Most Important Trait to Cultivate in a Child Left: self-esteem Right: self-control Worth of the Human Fetus Left: determined by the mother Right: determined by society rooted in Judeo-Christian values Primary Source of Crime Left: poverty, racism and other societal flaws Right: the criminal’s malfunctioning conscience Place of God and Religion in America Left: secular government and secular society Right: secular government and religious society American Exceptionalism Left: chauvinistic doctrine Right: historical reality Greatest Threat to the World Left: environmental catastrophe (currently global warming) Right: evil (currently radical Islamist violence) International Ideal Left: world governed by the United Nations, and no single country is dominant Right: world in which America is the single strongest entity Primary Reason for Lack of Peace in Middle East Left: Israeli settlements in the West Bank Right: Palestinian, Arab and Muslim denial of Jewish state’s right to exist Purpose of Art Left: challenge status quo and bourgeois sensibilities Right: produce works of beauty and profundity to elevate the individual and society Guns Left: ideally universally abolished, except for use by police, the armed forces and registered sportsmen Right: ideally widely owned by responsible individuals for self-protection and the protection of others Race Left: intrinsically significant Right: intrinsically insignificant Racial, Ethnic and Gender Diversity at Universities Left: most important Right: far less important than ideological diversity Black America’s Primary Problem Left: racism Right: lack of fathers Greatest Playwright Left: entirely subjective; there is no greatest playwright Right: Shakespeare War Left: not the answer Right: sometimes the only answer Hate Left: wrong, except when directed at the political Right: wrong, except when directed at evil Cultures Left: all equal Right: some are better than others America’s Founding Fathers Left: rich white male slave owners Right: great men who founded the greatest society Purpose of Judges Left: pursue social justice Right: pursue justice National Borders Left: a relic of the past Right: indispensable for national survival View of Illegal Immigrants Left: welcomed guests Right: illegal immigrants Nature Left: intrinsically valuable Right: made for man http://www.dennisprager.com/a-guide-to-basic-differences-between-left-and-right/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-left-is-consumed-with-hate-1537723198?fbclid=IwAR0TbpHldUMjMkP4kP4zXV2aXE3EYO8yEOT-Rp_nJaAyayxxUgXQowYFWpE ... Why is this apparent insanity so common among leftists these days? What happened to intellectualism? Edited November 10, 2018 by Aetherous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted November 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Aetherous said: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-left-is-consumed-with-hate-1537723198?fbclid=IwAR0TbpHldUMjMkP4kP4zXV2aXE3EYO8yEOT-Rp_nJaAyayxxUgXQowYFWpE ... Why is this apparent insanity so common among leftists these days? What happened to intellectualism? A whole generation has been manipulated and is suffering psychological imbalance as a result. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Aetherous said: Why is this apparent insanity so common among leftists these days? What happened to intellectualism? Apparent? No, not only apparent but factual. Their way is the only acceptable way and there is no requirement for it to be logical or reasonable. Yes, brainwashing and drug culture. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted November 11, 2018 20 hours ago, Aetherous said: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-left-is-consumed-with-hate-1537723198?fbclid=IwAR0TbpHldUMjMkP4kP4zXV2aXE3EYO8yEOT-Rp_nJaAyayxxUgXQowYFWpE ... Why is this apparent insanity so common among leftists these days? What happened to intellectualism? The man being yelled at is just standing there, while this person yells the most foul things he can think of at him, and then Mr Foulmouth yells at Mr CalmlyStanding about angry white men??? And this is real? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pilgrim Posted November 11, 2018 20 hours ago, Aetherous said: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-left-is-consumed-with-hate-1537723198?fbclid=IwAR0TbpHldUMjMkP4kP4zXV2aXE3EYO8yEOT-Rp_nJaAyayxxUgXQowYFWpE ... Why is this apparent insanity so common among leftists these days? What happened to intellectualism? That is a sickening display. Time for someone to call the little white men in the little white suits. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, ilumairen said: And this is real? I suspect this is happening on a daily basis across the US. There is something wrong with these people, where they're not able to see their own hypocrisy. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pilgrim Posted November 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, Aetherous said: I suspect this is happening on a daily basis across the US. There is something wrong with these people, where they're not able to see their own hypocrisy. No kidding, I wonder if in his derranged mind he thinks he is black or something other than a pasty pale face? This reminds me of news footage of stupid people back in the 1960’s screaming over stuff. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted November 11, 2018 33 minutes ago, Aetherous said: I suspect this is happening on a daily basis across the US. There is something wrong with these people, where they're not able to see their own hypocrisy. Calling someone's mother's womb rancid, and then talking about sexism is more than hypocritical imo. How do you even reason with this? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pilgrim Posted November 11, 2018 58 minutes ago, ilumairen said: Calling someone's mother's womb rancid, and then talking about sexism is more than hypocritical imo. How do you even reason with this? Reason has left the room. That person is a raving loon. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 11, 2018 It must have exited through the left door because they damn sure didn't come through the right door. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 11, 2018 BTW While it is true that the opposite of right is left, it is also true that the opposite of right is wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pilgrim Posted November 11, 2018 And as we all know two wrongs make a circle ⭕️ back to the left these days. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted November 11, 2018 wasn't sure where to put this so settled on here. So to disagree with something on the right: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-made-fun-alexandria-164400155.html I don't agree with her socialist stance and not sure it is good for the left or if embraced pushes them more to the left... but the diversity of those elected brings new ideas which is good. She is the youngest to be elected and that she is kind of in a bind over getting an apartment in DC is a real, tangible issue for her. Fox should, instead of mocking her, offer to help her. What is truly so hard about reaching across the isle... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted November 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, dawei said: wasn't sure where to put this so settled on here. So to disagree with something on the right: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-made-fun-alexandria-164400155.html I don't agree with her socialist stance and not sure it is good for the left or if embraced pushes them more to the left... but the diversity of those elected brings new ideas which is good. She is the youngest to be elected and that she is kind of in a bind over getting an apartment in DC is a real, tangible issue for her. Fox should, instead of mocking her, offer to help her. What is truly so hard about reaching across the isle... I knew a long time employee of homeland security who built his house 'across the border' and commuted due to the insane housing costs in D.C. She isn't the only one to find it difficult and/or a tax on resources. And I'm certainly not big on the redistribution of wealth or socialist agendas. This being said, she'll have a few rough months, and then she'll be fine. She was aware of these things ahead of time, and made her choices. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted November 11, 2018 33 minutes ago, dawei said: that she is kind of in a bind over getting an apartment in DC is a real, tangible issue for her. Fox should, instead of mocking her, offer to help her. It's a sign that our elected officials have become disproportionately wealthy and privileged compared to the average American; instead of public servants, they've become a ruling class. Definitely not something to laugh about. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted November 12, 2018 Interesting little talk on the moral roots of liberalism and conservatism. The end was the best part imo.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 12, 2018 Based on Jonathan's criteria I am a contradiction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted November 13, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 1:07 PM, dawei said: wasn't sure where to put this so settled on here. So to disagree with something on the right: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-made-fun-alexandria-164400155.html I don't agree with her socialist stance and not sure it is good for the left or if embraced pushes them more to the left... but the diversity of those elected brings new ideas which is good. She is the youngest to be elected and that she is kind of in a bind over getting an apartment in DC is a real, tangible issue for her. Fox should, instead of mocking her, offer to help her. What is truly so hard about reaching across the isle... She apparently isn't actually in need of help: Ocasio-Cortez claims she can't afford DC apartment, but records show she has at least $15,000 in savings https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-claims-of-not-being-to-afford-dc-apartment-crumbles-under-scrutiny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted November 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, ilumairen said: Ocasio-Cortez claims she can't afford DC apartment, but records show she has at least $15,000 in savings That might be her emergency fund (which is supposed to enable one to live without working for 6 months). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, Aetherous said: That might be her emergency fund (which is supposed to enable one to live without working for 6 months). You mean exactly the situation she now funds herself in, and knew she would be in if she was elected? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted November 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, ilumairen said: You mean exactly the situation she now funds herself in, and knew she would be in if she was elected? I think the 3 months would wipe out her fund...and it's never a good idea to wipe it out! Not sure she knew about the time gap without a paycheck until recently. Don't get me wrong, I think she's horrible...she is truly a socialist, evidenced by her recent complaints about Amazon. I just view the DC apartment situation differently than most. I also think it's possible that she could simply commute until paychecks came in - problem solved. After that point, well, she can stop complaining, because she'll be earning more than 3 normal people combined. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pilgrim Posted November 13, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 11:58 AM, ilumairen said: Interesting little talk on the moral roots of liberalism and conservatism. The end was the best part imo.. Wonderful and well worth watching start to finish. Agreed the end is the best part but the rest makes it so. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pilgrim Posted November 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Aetherous said: I think the 3 months would wipe out her fund...and it's never a good idea to wipe it out! Not sure she knew about the time gap without a paycheck until recently. Don't get me wrong, I think she's horrible...she is truly a socialist, evidenced by her recent complaints about Amazon. I just view the DC apartment situation differently than most. I also think it's possible that she could simply commute until paychecks came in - problem solved. After that point, well, she can stop complaining, because she'll be earning more than 3 normal people combined. Hotel 6 We’ll leave a light on. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted November 14, 2018 It's actually sad how unconscious these students and/or protesters are. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites