HoldorFold Posted February 27, 2017 Discovered this by experimenting the other day and maybe it could help someone.If you touch the roof of your mouth with your tongue and focus on making your tongue feel cold, like remembering what snow feels like and feeling that sensation in your tongue, then it suddenly very powerfully draws a lot of qi from your head down your throat. This seems like an instant fix for whenever I get a pulsating brow point or too much qi in my head.I want to experiment more with this by using the sensation of cold to emphasize yin locations, but I want to proceed slowly because it seems quite powerful. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kar3n Posted February 28, 2017 There are several threads on tongue placement that might interest you... Â http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/39484-where-exactly-do-you-put-you-tongue-on-palate/ http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/24056-microcosmic-orbit-tongue-position/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted February 28, 2017 Discovered this by experimenting the other day and maybe it could help someone.  If you touch the roof of your mouth with your tongue and focus on making your tongue feel cold, like remembering what snow feels like and feeling that sensation in your tongue, then it suddenly very powerfully draws a lot of qi from your head down your throat.  This seems like an instant fix for whenever I get a pulsating brow point or too much qi in my head.  I want to experiment more with this by using the sensation of cold to emphasize yin locations, but I want to proceed slowly because it seems quite powerful.    interesting  1. How long does it take you to feel the Qi movement down through the throat? 2. Have you tried hot instead ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoldorFold Posted March 3, 2017 interesting  1. How long does it take you to feel the Qi movement down through the throat? 2. Have you tried hot instead ? I used to be into Hermeticism as practiced by Franz Bardon and modified by William Mistele, and I used to focus a lot on the sensation of heat. It would give me an emotional powerful feeling, a peppery taste in my mouth and raise my body temperature enough so I could be outside in the cold in a t-shirt where I would usually need a thick coat. But in experimenting with heat, I also quickly developed rashes, irritability and in the long term it exasperated qi-rising into my head with it's associated complications.  Since then, I have been careful in working with the sensation of temperature because it can be quite powerful.  I've been doing the tongue touching the roof of the mouth for a long time and have noticed very subtle results. If my forehead is pulsating with qi, touching my tongue to the roof of my mouth doesn't seem to change much, I usually have to do a lot of work increasing my sense of weight and create a suction feeling from lower in my body, and even then it takes a while.  With this cold-tongue technique, the qi immediately and strongly comes down my brow, into my throat and down. I don't even seem to need to reposition my tongue that much, as long as my mouth is closed part of the tongue is touching the roof and the cold-tongue technique works for me.  Quite interesting!     1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phosphorose Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) I would think placing your attention on the tongue would draw some qi there, but it's possible you have a lot of heat rising to the head and the cold is simply balancing it a little. Â If you have difficulty grounding, I've found an easy way to make qi sink. Focus on your weight, especially the parts of your body pressing down into the chair your sitting on. Makes the qi relax and fall quickly. If you focus too hard, qi freezes, if you relax it moves. So simply focusing on the weight of your body pressing against the chair makes it move quicker than forcing it anywhere. Â Hope that helps! Â ___________ Â spiritmapper.com Find and share sacred places around the world. Edited March 6, 2017 by Phosphorose 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted March 5, 2017 Anne Wise who did research into mind-body control and biofeedback found that when people relaxed their tonque, thoughts slowed down. She used it as a starting point in many of her meditations.  In Taoism the tonque is traditionally connected to the heart. When it touches the roof of the mouth it completes the circuitry of the orbit. Not that it guarantees much energy is running. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeran Posted March 5, 2017 This seems like it could potentially have some undesirable follow-on effects, such as drawing that Qi back down towards the heart (which, as Thelerner pointed out, is traditionally connected to the tongue).  I've found that one good way to deal with excess heat in the upper torso/head is to practice "Qi Dredging" as described in Mitchell's Daoist Nei Gong (basically, bring the arms up in a large circle on the inbreath, run them down the body on the outbreath and follow down your body with your awareness and some light intention, ending up running down your legs and out of your feet into the ground - I added in an extra bit of sinking the body on the end of the outbreath which I picked up from a Taiji teacher).  It's not a silver bullet, but it seems to help speed up the process of circulating any energy which feels "trapped" up there. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites