allinone Posted April 2, 2017 I am not well versed with your terminology. In Vedanta we talk about two different 'selfs'. One self is the little self with 's' in small letters and the other is the Supreme Self  or Self with 'S' in capital letters. Little self or self is nothing but our individual worldly personality which is due to the identification with Body, Mind, Intellect and Ego. The other Self or Supreme self is the God which is the subtlest enlivening principle that is the source, cause and substratum of life, life experiences and is responsible for the proper functioning of our various faculties of Body, Mind, Intellect, Memory and Ego. In short, without Self (Supreme Self) there is no little self. Our ego which exists due to our identification with the Body, Mind and Intellect plays the fool and assumes the reality of the Supreme Self when in reality it is an emergent principle which is imaginary. The difference between Supreme Self and ego or little self is the difference between an object and its Shadow. Shadow exists only until the light falls on the real object. Similarly Ego exists only till we, the Supreme Self, are wrongly identified with the Body, Mind, Intellect and their world of objects, beings and experiences. The entire spiritual effort is getting rid of this false identification that gives rise to the imaginary ego and getting rid of the desires of the Mind which boosts our imaginary ego.  this reminds technical description a science. Its then practice-able, as you follow a path what is no different from real life. When to read scriptures they describe stories. Then every next scripture get more "how to" and descriptive of differences set in to the eventual you have 12 or so different ways. Feels like past people don't live and are seated in full lotus or whatever position while the scripture what is before vedas has war included. Something to think about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Boy Posted April 2, 2017 @taoteching99: 1. Yes. Feels overwhelming. 2. Yes, if it's realization of the truth. Â @Jeff: Yes, absolutely. It's called self realization nowadays. Many, but not all, make a difference between self realization and self actualization. The latter .. well, it's another story. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites