What is love

[Mig]

I was wondering about the word ai 愛 in Daoism. I have seeing the word in some chapters of the DDJ and translated as "love". What is love? What is love in Daoism? Is the word ai in Chinese equates the same as in English ( I don't say western languages as the cultural connotations are different). I have also read that compassion in Chinese has love content just as benevolence. Just wondering and picking brains here and there.

 

Thanks and Happy Friday!!

[Limahong]

On 5/27/2017 at 4:21 AM, Mig said:

I was wondering about the word ai 愛 in Daoism.

 

Hi Mig,

 

I haven't read the DDJ yet. So this is only my guess.

 

Taoist love blossoms when yin and yang meet.

Then everything stops as hearts so wildly beat.

As Two become One - wu-wei shines The Way.

And sun & moon - don't know if it's night or day.

 

Yes/no?

 

- LimA

[Mig]

Thanks LimA,

Nice input and I wonder if yin and yang meet as I think we are half of a man and half of woman and vice-versa for women. If 2 becomes one then how can act without attachment wu wei will work?

[Marblehead]

Oh, the harmony of the merging of yin and yang, woman and man.

 

No, I have never thought I was the woman.  But there have been times where it was best for me to be yin and allow the woman to be yang.

 

[Limahong]

4 hours ago, Mig said:

I wonder if yin and yang meet as I think we are half of a man and half of woman and vice-versa for women.

 

Hi Mig,

 

Yes I too believe that each of yin and yang is (.5 woman + .5 man); so -

Yin +  Yang = (.5 woman + .5 man) + (.5 woman + .5 man) = Woman + Man.

 

 

4 hours ago, Mig said:

If 2 becomes one ...

 

I will try and answer your question without being too explicit. We will continue from the above ...

 

Woman + Man  =   =    = One

 

 

Meaning of symbols:

Genesis 2:24

For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

Mark 10:8

AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; so they are no longer two, but one flesh.

 

 

4 hours ago, Mig said:

... then how can act without attachment wu wei will work?

 

Act - can without attachment?

But of course. Why?

Woman => <= Man = one flesh.

No attachment to each other. Yes/no?

 

Wu wei will work?

Definitely. Why?

Jing => chi => shen.

Wu wei sublimes and climaxes in the shen realm. Yes/no?

 

Please don't ask me anymore questions. Why?

   will come after me.

 

- LimA

Edited September 26, 2017 by Limahong
Correct errors.

[thelerner]

On 5/26/2017 at 3:21 PM, Mig said:

I was wondering about the word ai 愛 in Daoism. I have seeing the word in some chapters of the DDJ and translated as "love". What is love? What is love in Daoism?

 

Thanks and Happy Friday!!

Interesting how common sounds often mean similar things in different languages.  Take ai or aye.  In many cultures it means yes, and Yes, is not a bad connotation for love.  Like Ohmnn, Aii tend to be a central connection sounds.  In some kotodama (sacred sound) systems moves from heart (Aahh) to throat/truth (Eeei).  It's one of those things you feel personally, see where Aaiiee vibrates as you say it slowly.

 

Getting away from Daoism, I was taught that love is positive feelings and emotions to a person (or even an object).  It's a little more clinical, but the more you connect a person to something positive, the more you love them. 

I love my wife, because I connect her to many pleasurable things and support.

I love pizza because its salty, fatty.. crispy too. 

Most of all I love when my wife brings me pizza.   

[Marblehead]

1 minute ago, thelerner said:

 

I love my wife, because I connect her to many pleasurable things and support.

I love pizza because its salty, fatty.. crispy too. 

Most of all I love when my wife brings me pizza.   

I love pizza too.  I can't say anything about your wife because you might think something is going on.

 

[Limahong]

12 hours ago, Marblehead said:

Oh, the harmony of the merging of yin and yang, woman and man.

 

Good morning Dada-da,

 

Why 'Oh' only? Shouldn't it be 'Oh yes' at least. There is some element of ignorance/surprise in your 'Oh'.

 

12 hours ago, Marblehead said:

I have never thought I was the woman.

 

It is said that you are only 50% woman. If you want to be 100% woman, dream on and be The Statue of Liberty (also 100% concrete).

 

 

12 hours ago, Marblehead said:

But there have been times where it was best for me to be yin and allow the woman to be yang.

 

Cannot imagine.

 

- LimA

[Marblehead]

19 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

Good morning Dada-da,

 

Why 'Oh' only? Shouldn't it be 'Oh yes' at least. There is some element of ignorance/surprise in your 'Oh'.

No, I don't get that emotional.  "Oh" is fine for me.

 

19 minutes ago, Limahong said:

It is said that you are only 50% woman. If you want to be 100% woman, dream on and be The Statue of Liberty (also 100% concrete).

My Statue of Liberty is copper.  But no, I don't think I ever said I wanted to be a woman.  But I am sure I have said somewhere that I used to enjoy being united with a woman.

 

19 minutes ago, Limahong said:

Cannot imagine.

 

- LimA

And I can't even begin to explain it with words.

[Limahong]

8 hours ago, Marblehead said:

"Oh" is fine for me.

 

Hi Dada-da,

 

I understand.

 

8 hours ago, Marblehead said:

My Statue of Liberty is copper.  But no, I don't think I ever said I wanted to be a woman.  But I am sure I have said somewhere that I used to enjoy being united with a woman.

 

Oh copper - so you are disqualified.

"But there have been times where it was best for me to be yin" - so yin is not associated with womanhood. Then yin = what?

"Used" - noted; no question asked.

 

8 hours ago, Marblehead said:

And I can't even begin to explain it with words.

 

It is OK to be wordless at times.

 

- LimA

Edited September 27, 2017 by Limahong
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[Marblehead]

No, not "used".  Restive; receptive.

 

[Limahong]

On 9/26/2017 at 10:32 PM, thelerner said:

Take ai or aye.

 

Hi thelerner,

 

ai <= => aye <= => I.

I love love and love loves me?

 

On 9/26/2017 at 10:32 PM, thelerner said:

In many cultures it means yes, and Yes, is not a bad connotation for love.

 

Can we go for a date? Yes. Beginning of love.

Can I kiss you? Yes. Love in progress.

Can we make love? YES. Love sweet LOVE.

YES = LOVE?

 

On 9/26/2017 at 10:32 PM, thelerner said:

Like Ohmnn, Aii tend to be a central connection sounds.  In some kotodama (sacred sound) systems moves from heart (Aahh) to throat/truth (Eeei).  It's one of those things you feel personally, see where Aaiiee vibrates as you say it slowly.

 

 

Ohmnn => Aahh => Eeei => Oooh + Aahoy + Arrrh + ... ... + Aaiiee => Oooooo...... => OHMYGOD?

 

On 9/26/2017 at 10:32 PM, thelerner said:

Getting away from Daoism, I was taught that love is positive feelings and emotions to a person (or even an object).  It's a little more clinical, but the more you connect a person to something positive, the more you love them.

 

Love + '+ve feelings' + '+ve emotions' + persons + objects + '+ve' + '+ve' + ... = MORE LOVE?

 

On 9/26/2017 at 10:32 PM, thelerner said:

I love my wife, because I connect her to many pleasurable things and support.

I love pizza because its salty, fatty.. crispy too. 

Most of all I love when my wife brings me pizza.

 

Wife => pizzas => salty pizza + fatty pizza ... + crispy pizza = I love my wife?

 

- LimA

Edited September 30, 2017 by Limahong
Correct errors.

[Marblehead]

I got it.  Love is eating pizza.

 

[Wu Ming Jen]

Embracing Tao, you become embraced.
Supple, breathing gently, you become reborn.
Clearing your vision, you become clear.
Nurturing your beloved, you become impartial.
Opening your heart, you become accepted.
Accepting the World, you embrace Tao.
Bearing and nurturing,
Creating but not owning,
Giving without demanding,
Controlling without authority,
This is love.”  

 

Taoist do not consider love as an emotion. Yin and Yang is not gender specific  it is an energetic not limited to a form being formless.

 

Internal alchemy is that yin and yang love each other but have not formally met. A go between is necessary to introduce yin and yang to each other. when this happens a new life is born, birth of the higher self is then possible.

[Limahong]

8 minutes ago, Wu Ming Jen said:

A go between is necessary to introduce yin and yang to each other.

 

Hi Wu Ming Jen.

 

Yin <= pizza => Yang?

 

- LimA

[Wu Ming Jen]

Exactly the go between is pizza.This uniting force can be felt as soon as pizza just touches the lips not to mention what happens after penetration of the body.The sweet dew develops and breaks down the pizza turning it into energy that blows rocket fuel away.

 

I like to pick pizza up and feel the warm juiciness in my hands. I do not understand using utensils to eat pizza but I know spooning leads to forking so please use condiments if you happen to use this method of eating pizza.

[Limahong]

1 minute ago, Wu Ming Jen said:

... after penetration of the body.

 

Hi Wu Ming Jen,

 

Don't be crude.

 

- LimA

[Limahong]

13 minutes ago, Wu Ming Jen said:

Exactly the go between is pizza.This uniting force can be felt as soon as pizza just touches the lips not to mention what happens after penetration of the body.The sweet dew develops and breaks down the pizza turning it into energy that blows rocket fuel away.

 

Hi Wu Ming Jen,

 

Is this pizza eating or love making?

 

- LimA

Edited September 30, 2017 by Limahong
Correct errors.

[Limahong]

23 minutes ago, Wu Ming Jen said:

Exactly the go between is pizza.This uniting force can be felt as soon as pizza just touches the lips not to mention what happens after penetration of the body.The sweet dew develops and breaks down the pizza turning it into energy that blows rocket fuel away.

 

Hi Wu Ming Jen,

 

Pizza = Viagra?

 

- LimA

 

(Good night)

[Wu Ming Jen]

 I am just playing and writing in code. The endless interactions of yin and yang. Freud takes my words and came up with his own theory.

[Marblehead]

I am going to have love, AKA pizza, for lunch today.

 

[Limahong]

2 hours ago, Marblehead said:

I am going to have love, AKA pizza, for lunch today.

 

Hi Dada-da,

 

You have stole a 'pizza' of her dear heart ...

 

 

-LimA

[Marblehead]

4 hours ago, Limahong said:

 

Hi Dada-da,

 

You have stole a 'pizza' of her dear heart ...

 

 

Life sucks sometimes.

 

[Limahong]

18 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

Life sucks sometimes.

 

Life is dependent on 'luck'.

Dada-da please don't sulk.

Do not swear - what the f..k.

You want my hen and duck?

 

- LimA

[Marblehead]

Better to pen a hen than to .... a duck.