Marblehead Posted June 4, 2017 Sir Sunny Dweller {{Yang Tzuchŭ. This is probably Chuang Tzu's caricature of the hedonist philosopher, Yang Chu, whose pseudonym was Yang Tzuchŭ. This sounds exactly like the Modern Standard Mandarin pronunciation of the three sinographs for Sir Sunny Dweller, although the first one is written slightly differently from the surname of the famous philosopher. We may think of Sir Sunny Dweller as a sort of anti-Yang Chu, just as Chuang Tzu's Confucius often acts more like an anti-Confucius or, as we have styled him, a pseudo-Confucius.}} went to see Old Longears and said, "Here is a man, alert and vigorous, perceptive and intelligent, and untiring in learning the Way. May such a man be compared with the enlightened kings?" "Compared to the sages," said Old Longears, "he would be like a clerk at his labors or a craftsman tied to his work, toiling his body and vexing his mind. Furthermore, it is the patterned pelt of the tiger and the leopard that bring forth the hunter, it is the nimbleness of the gibbon and the monkey that bring forth the trainer with his leash. Can such as these be compared with enlightened kings?" Surprised, Sunny Dweller said, "May I be so bold as to ask about the government of the enlightened king?" "In the government of the enlightened king," said Old Longears, "his merit covers all under heaven, but it seems not to be his own. His transforming influence extends to the myriad things, but the people do not rely on him. Whatever he does, no one mentions his name, since he causes everything to enjoy itself. He stands in unfathomability and wanders in nonexistence." 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 4, 2017 I think the note in this section is of importance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rene Posted June 5, 2017 Cant speak to the Note... but the last paragraph has Laozi all over it. (-: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted June 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, WuDao said: Cant speak to the Note... but the last paragraph has Laozi all over it. (-: Tao Te Ching - Wikipedia Laozi was the Grand Historian and astrologer Lao Dan (老聃 "Old Long-ears"), 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) On 6/4/2017 at 9:45 PM, Taoist Texts said: Tao Te Ching - Wikipedia Laozi was the Grand Historian and astrologer Lao Dan (老聃 "Old Long-ears"), Yes, we have spoke to this before and I agree that Lao Dan is Lao Tzu. And really, Lao Tzu can be seen throughout The Chuang Tzu. It's just not always obvious. Edited June 6, 2017 by Marblehead 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites