Long men pai nei gong and mo pai

[Ilovecoffee]

6 minutes ago, Brian said:

Naah, just having a little fun with some old friends! 

 

I don't think any member of our group myself included would refer to you as a friend Brian.

[Brian]

12 minutes ago, blue eyed snake said:

 

i may be mistaken,

but it looks like you're getting your button pushed

You weren't around at the time and I doubt you've dug back through old threads to discover this history, but we had a member of the actual MoPai in Indonesia join this forum several years ago for the express purpose of clarifying that the Bum then formerly known as MorePieGuy did not represent the MoPai, that the techniques he was sharing on the Internet were not authentic, that his "teacher" had never been authorized to teach MoPai, and that they would greatly appreciate it if that group would kindly cease & desist.

 

At first, MPG claimed this was proof that his techniques are authentic and that the MoPai was engaging in an elaborate suppression campaign because what he had discovered was so incredible that it couldn't be allowed into mortal hands (or something to that effect).  This same logic was used to explain why Kostas, after writing the MPG Bible, abandoned the practice and encouraged others to find something else; Kostas was just trying to divert attention away from the one real, scientifically proven, objectively evidenced system on the planet.

 

Later, perhaps when the continued defense of this line of reasoning was becoming untenable, the mantra changed to something along the lines of "we don't know who that guy really was and he used some word from an American TV show so clearly he was an American who was using an Internet proxy server based in Indonesia to make it seem like he was from Indonesia ("seem to whom?" is an interesting question as Bums don't see IP addresses for other Bums).  Obviously, the person couldn't have actually been an Indonesian student of MoPai who heard about the kerfuffle surrounding MoPai on this forum and joined here to ask that it please stop.  Instead, it must be an American bent on undermining and attacking MPG and his "group" out of pure anger and hatred.

 

It is all quite reasonable, you see.

[Brian]

10 minutes ago, Ilovecoffee said:

 

I don't think any member of our group myself included would refer to you as a friend Brian.

Wait!  You mean you aren't sincere when you offer me "Best wishes"?

 

Really?!?

 

I'm crushed.

 

All I've ever asked for, including when MorePieGuy was still a member here (you know that he wasn't banned until he literally asked (no, demanded) to be banned, right?) were answers to a few simple questions.  As you make clear, though, your mission here doesn't include answering questions or providing information about MoPai or about your "group's" practice of what you know of MoPai.  Instead, you are here as part of a recurring membership drive for another forum and to try to get yourself "banned for no reason" because that is part of the MPG mythology.  How many weeks is it now???

[Mudfoot]

22 minutes ago, Ilovecoffee said:

 

 

I believe thelerner already is attempting to do that here:

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/44528-serious-mo-pai-thread-forget-history-lets-break-down-techniques/

 

 

 

1) It is not here. 

2) Rate that attempt,  on a scale from 1-10,  without being sarcastic. 

[Ilovecoffee]

12 minutes ago, Brian said:

You weren't around at the time and I doubt you've dug back through old threads to discover this history, but we had a member of the actual MoPai in Indonesia join this forum several years ago for the express purpose of clarifying that the Bum then formerly known as MorePieGuy did not represent the MoPai, that the techniques he was sharing on the Internet were not authentic, that his "teacher" had never been authorized to teach MoPai, and that they would greatly appreciate it if that group would kindly cease & desist.

 

At first, MPG claimed this was proof that his techniques are authentic and that the MoPai was engaging in an elaborate suppression campaign because what he had discovered was so incredible that it couldn't be allowed into mortal hands (or something to that effect).  This same logic was used to explain why Kostas, after writing the MPG Bible, abandoned the practice and encouraged others to find something else; Kostas was just trying to divert attention away from the one real, scientifically proven, objectively evidenced system on the planet.

 

Later, perhaps when the continued defense of this line of reasoning was becoming untenable, the mantra changed to something along the lines of "we don't know who that guy really was and he used some word from an American TV show so clearly he was an American who was using an Internet proxy server based in Indonesia to make it seem like he was from Indonesia ("seem to whom?" is an interesting question as Bums don't see IP addresses for other Bums).  Obviously, the person couldn't have actually been an Indonesian student of MoPai who heard about the kerfuffle surrounding MoPai on this forum and joined here to ask that it please stop.  Instead, it must be an American bent on undermining and attacking MPG and his "group" out of pure anger and hatred.

 

It is all quite reasonable, you see.

 

Brian as I've said you can argue with the wall for all I care. 

 

Best wishes.

[Brian]

17 minutes ago, Ilovecoffee said:

 

I don't think any member of our group myself included would refer to you as a friend Brian.

Matt and I had some very interesting PMs back in the day, you know.  Or do you?  Is that part of "the Legend of MPG"?  I promised him then that I wouldn't reveal what he shared with me so I don't.  I haven't lost the details, though.  I shared details with him, too, of course, but nothing which I haven't also shared openly here.  I'm not big on secrets, you see.

[Brian]

1 minute ago, Ilovecoffee said:

 

Brian as I've said you can argue with the wall for all I care. 

 

Best wishes.

I wasn't talking to you.

 

You can tell because I quoted someone else and responded to her post instead of one of yours.

Edited July 10, 2017 by Brian

[Ilovecoffee]

8 minutes ago, Brian said:

Wait!  You mean you aren't sincere when you offer me "Best wishes"?

 

Really?!?

 

I'm crushed.

 

All I've ever asked for, including when MorePieGuy was still a member here (you know that he wasn't banned until he literally asked (no, demanded) to be banned, right?) were answers to a few simple questions.  As you make clear, though, your mission here doesn't include answering questions or providing information about MoPai or about your "group's" practice of what you know of MoPai.  Instead, you are here as part of a recurring membership drive for another forum and to try to get yourself "banned for no reason" because that is part of the MPG mythology.  How many weeks is it now???

 

Best wishes Brian.

[Brian]

1 minute ago, Ilovecoffee said:

 

Best wishes Brian.

Best wishes to you, too, ilovecoffee.

[Ilovecoffee]

Just now, Brian said:

Best wishes to you, too, ilovecoffee.

 

Thank you to you as well.

[Brian]

42 minutes ago, Mudfoot said:

Maybe we should post the basic level techniques described by Kostas and McMillan here, in this thread, and start to do a comparison to other known methods. 

 

Just to see differences and similarities. 

 

But perhaps without trying to connect it to natural science? Except if there is a reference to a measured whatever on an actual practitioner of the specific technique discussed? 

 

Refering mostly to the three books and the infamous email someone published without consent. 

 

Then this circus would revert to an actual thread. 

 

It would be interesting to have the Long Men Pai side, as the thread started with that. 

But for the Nei Dan crowd,  Ming methods are Fight Club ((something not spoken about). 

panem et circenses

[blue eyed snake]

28 minutes ago, Brian said:

You weren't around at the time and I doubt you've dug back through old threads to discover this history, but we had a member of the actual MoPai in Indonesia join this forum several years ago for the express purpose of clarifying that the Bum then formerly known as MorePieGuy did not represent the MoPai, that the techniques he was sharing on the Internet were not authentic, that his "teacher" had never been authorized to teach MoPai, and that they would greatly appreciate it if that group would kindly cease & desist.

 

At first, MPG claimed this was proof that his techniques are authentic and that the MoPai was engaging in an elaborate suppression campaign because what he had discovered was so incredible that it couldn't be allowed into mortal hands (or something to that effect).  This same logic was used to explain why Kostas, after writing the MPG Bible, abandoned the practice and encouraged others to find something else; Kostas was just trying to divert attention away from the one real, scientifically proven, objectively evidenced system on the planet.

 

Later, perhaps when the continued defense of this line of reasoning was becoming untenable, the mantra changed to something along the lines of "we don't know who that guy really was and he used some word from an American TV show so clearly he was an American who was using an Internet proxy server based in Indonesia to make it seem like he was from Indonesia ("seem to whom?" is an interesting question as Bums don't see IP addresses for other Bums).  Obviously, the person couldn't have actually been an Indonesian student of MoPai who heard about the kerfuffle surrounding MoPai on this forum and joined here to ask that it please stop.  Instead, it must be an American bent on undermining and attacking MPG and his "group" out of pure anger and hatred.

 

It is all quite reasonable, you see.

 

thanks for the background, i did dig, but not that deep.

 

it's not my brand of reasonable, but to each his own

 

edit: the very best wishes too,

that seems to be obligatory on this thread,

 

Edited July 10, 2017 by blue eyed snake

[Chang]

Twenty nine pages. This is quite impressive but I suspect that we are beginning to run out of steam now.

 

The question we must ask ourselves is whether or not we have gleaned much knowledge on Long Men Pai nei gong, Mo Pai or Western Mo Pai aka More Pie?

 

My own view is that the thread is nothing more than a rehash of all the other Mo Pai threads we have seen over the years. The problem being of course that we have no genuine Mo Pai practitioners to cast light on their practice but only More Pie Wallah's who speak of scientifically proved wonders but will share nothing of their own experience.

 

Best wishes to all and sundry.

 

[Brian]

12 minutes ago, Ilovecoffee said:

 

Thank you to you as well.

Thank you, ilovecoffee!  That's very thoughtful of you.  I don't care what anyone else says, I think your are a prince of a guy.

[Ilovecoffee]

1 minute ago, Brian said:

Thank you, ilovecoffee!  That's very thoughtful of you.  I don't care what anyone else says, I think your are a prince of a guy.

 

Thank you, I think you are as well.

 

[ralis]

While everyone is so concerned about John Chang the real power is ubiquitous and available to all. I have experienced it and so can anyone willing to give up their bullshit belief systems.

 

 

[Brian]

17 minutes ago, blue eyed snake said:

 

thanks for the background, i did dig, but not that deep.

 

it's not my brand of reasonable, but to each his own

 

edit: the very best wishes too,

that seems to be obligatory on this thread,

 

Best wishes to you, BES!

[Brian]

15 minutes ago, Chang said:

Twenty nine pages. This is quite impressive but I suspect that we are beginning to run out of steam now.

 

The question we must ask ourselves is whether or not we have gleaned much knowledge on Long Men Pai nei gong, Mo Pai or Western Mo Pai aka More Pie?

 

My own view is that the thread is nothing more than a rehash of all the other Mo Pai threads we have seen over the years. The problem being of course that we have no genuine Mo Pai practitioners to cast light on their practice but only More Pie Wallah's who speak of scientifically proved wonders but will share nothing of their own experience.

 

Best wishes to all and sundry.

 

Best wishes, Chang!!!

[Ilovecoffee]

7 minutes ago, ralis said:

While everyone is so concerned about John Chang the real power is ubiquitous and available to all. I have experienced it and so can anyone willing to give up their bullshit belief systems.

 

 

 

 

 

[ralis]

33 minutes ago, Ilovecoffee said:

 

 

 

 

What is your point?

[Jox]

[Starjumper]

4 hours ago, Ilovecoffee said:

If we had 100+ members who could stand toe to toe with this nonsense, then I think we could turn the tide. 

 

We don't so we can't. 

 

I doubt if you will ever find that many suckers.  Aren't there also other forums you guys go prancing around in too?

 

Best Wishes to you    

Edited July 10, 2017 by Starjumper
to add "best wishes"

[Starjumper]

2 hours ago, Brian said:

You weren't around at the time and I doubt you've dug back through old threads to discover this history, but we had a member of the actual MoPai in Indonesia join this forum several years ago for the express purpose of clarifying that the Bum then formerly known as MorePieGuy did not represent the MoPai, that the techniques he was sharing on the Internet were not authentic, that his "teacher" had never been authorized to teach MoPai, and that they would greatly appreciate it if that group would kindly cease & desist.

 

Thanks for sharing that.  It makes a lot of sense and I can absolutely see why this happened.  I've also seen that different 'experts' from the freakish MorePai forum have 180 degree opposite views as to what some of the beginning methods are, which indicates to me that it's actually a group of um ... you know.

 

Best Wishes to all   

Edited July 10, 2017 by Starjumper

[Starjumper]

1 hour ago, Brian said:

Wait!  You mean you aren't sincere when you offer me "Best wishes"?

 

Really?!?

 

I'm crushed.

 

YAhahaha  

[Starjumper]

1 hour ago, Brian said:

All I've ever asked for, including when MorePieGuy was still a member here (you know that he wasn't banned until he literally asked (no, demanded) to be banned, right?) were answers to a few simple questions.  As you make clear, though, your mission here doesn't include answering questions or providing information about MoPai or about your "group's" practice of what you know of MoPai.  Instead, you are here as part of a recurring membership drive for another forum and to try to get yourself "banned for no reason" because that is part of the MPG mythology.  How many weeks is it now???

 

YAhahahaha   

 

Best wishes dear Brian.  I didn't want to put the lovey emoticon on that one  

Edited July 10, 2017 by Starjumper