Long men pai nei gong and mo pai

[Mudfoot]

1 hour ago, allinone said:

 

sry about spamming.

You are not spamming. We should be grateful you took the time to contribute with those quotes, adds to the thread. 

[Starjumper]

OK Alinone, but until someone can demonstrate the difference between yang and yin chi with doctors and scientists watching (they are all so honest and untrickable, aren't they) in a certified video recording then I won't believe it.  YAhahaha

 

Best Wishes

Edited July 11, 2017 by Starjumper

[Kar3n]

2 hours ago, allinone said:

also i don't listen anyone who hasn't lvl4. So no need answers what are said like sure things or i know what it is

Are you level 4?

[Starjumper]

I know!   I'll rent a doctor's costume and then get a friend of mine to wear it while another friend makes a video of some cockamamie trick.  Then people can worship me too.

 

Best wishes to all.

[Mudfoot]

The Yin energy is interesting. 

 

I would say that different traditions name different sensations yin and yang. That makes comparisons hard to do. 

 

So if I said I work more active with yin,  this would easily be countered with the Gnostic/Rogerian "The Yin you are talking about is not the Yin I am talking about",  which sort of ends the discussion. 

 

 

[Mudfoot]

3 hours ago, Brian said:

There's a relationship between electrical fields and magnetic fields, of course.  

Some research on healers have failed to find both components at the same time, while actively looking. 

[allinone]

Just now, Kar3n said:

Are you level 4?

 

No i am not.

But i want to believe i am. Well like maybe its different for me due internal experiences. But i am sceptical, so i keep 4th level as my insane point, it is when outer and inner reality will match. So far my skin insulation or resistance is too strong!!

[Mudfoot]

2 hours ago, allinone said:

also i don't listen anyone who hasn't lvl4.

Level 4 in Mo Pai, I presume. 

Successful yin yang gong in another tradition might mean something else, and give different results. 

Or, if I got the level right,  might be another level in another tradition. 

[allinone]

21 minutes ago, Mudfoot said:

Level 4 in Mo Pai, I presume. 

Successful yin yang gong in another tradition might mean something else, and give different results. 

Or, if I got the level right,  might be another level in another tradition. 

 

according to buddhist texts there are powers. There also talk that you can born with an inborn quality, like someone who is fire resistance.

I think its real possible but maybe yes not that straightforward as mopai.

 

Mopai book autor does assuming or comparing with other traditions and tells things on his viewpoints. Also on his other book.

Edited July 11, 2017 by allinone

[Brian]

30 minutes ago, Mudfoot said:

Some research on healers have failed to find both components at the same time, while actively looking. 

An interesting detail (from a scientific perspective rather than a healer's) is that at least one group of researchers found no significant change in field in the immediate vicinity of the healer but did find such change in the vicinity of the healer's "target."

[allinone]

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My martial arts skills improved greatly. Upon testing
the energy content of one of my students whose name is
Stamatis, John showed us that I had at least five times
that man’s energy. He did so by passing a current of 1
percent of his total power through his forearm. My
student could not touch my master’s arm, while I grasped
it comfortably. Later I found that I could then stand 2
percent of John’s power, while Stamatis could
comfortably tolerate 0.40 percent. I had five times my
student’s bioenergy! As a result, I had to practice very
carefully in the training hall, keeping the ch’i down in the
dantien where it belonged. But every so often it crept up,
and people went flying. I had heard of a brother student
in the United States, James, who could no longer touch
his own students while training, for fear of sending them
to the hospital.

 

the last part. Now i think i understand Kostas exageration.

[allinone]

i think they got the Bodhidharma facts wrong, Bodhidharma body didn't found, only the sandal.

...

also JC ignorance on rainbowbodies/lightbody, transformation body etc (not mentioned at all) or growing new teeth.

Edited July 11, 2017 by allinone

[allinone]

if Kostas goes to talk about hindu stuff, nadis and such hehe Speculationssss. I mean no different voice than anyone else who is just thinking of having it.

 

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The method through which these incredible abilities are
arrived at is called, in Chinese, nei kung, or “inner
power.” It is the equivalent of the Hindu-Buddhist
practice of kundalini yoga, though nei kung involves a
martial art and martial practice. Central to the discipline is
the transformation of sexual energy into pure
unadulterated power, a force that the practitioner can use
at will. The “cauldron” in which this formidable elixir is
brewed is called the dantien (elixir field) in Chinese, and
is a bioenergetic nexus located four fingers below our
navel.

 

Edited July 11, 2017 by allinone

[allinone]

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“Last week I went into meditation and asked my
master1why none of my students had managed to
combine yin and yang in their dantien2 and finish Level
Four.”

 

Grandmaster Liao, John Chang’s teacher, had died in
1962, but his consciousness was still accessible to my
own master somewhere beyond space-time.
“What did he say?”
“He said that this level of power is a gift granted by
such laws as govern the Universe, and is not subject to
individual human will. It is a part of a person’s aura.”

 

 

Edited July 11, 2017 by allinone

[Mudfoot]

Nei kung involves martial practice, you quote. And other quotes is about martial prowess. 

 

So a full Shaolin curriculum would be Chan-wu-yi, which isn't always the case in the individual practitioner. 

 

If Mo Pai practice do not involve reading Mo Tzu,  and is combined with the eight thunder (something), does that imply that the focus is on wu? 

[Mudfoot]

1 hour ago, allinone said:

 

also JC ignorance on rainbowbodies/lightbody, transformation body etc (not mentioned at all) or growing new teeth.

Could it be that the Mo Pai method,  focused on power,  is not the same as methods focused on dissolving into the five spiritual lights? 

 

Different methods which leads to different places, rather than different paths up to the same mountain peak? 

[allinone]

2 hours ago, Mudfoot said:

Could it be that the Mo Pai method,  focused on power,  is not the same as methods focused on dissolving into the five spiritual lights? 

 

Different methods which leads to different places, rather than different paths up to the same mountain peak? 

 

i go for the dream version that this reality is dream. But i am a dream side character not the main.

 

i have seen all kinds of dreams, so it would make sense that there is variety.

[Ilovecoffee]

On 7/10/2017 at 1:03 PM, Starjumper said:

 

Jesus God M.F.!   Can you imagine if there were 100 of these (use your imagination here) always saying the same thing without saying anything.  That would be intensely gross.  I'm sure the forum leaders could devise a way to defend the forum though.

 

 

You never will. (find 100 more people like yourself) People haven't been dumbed down that much ... yet, and the longer you wait the more unlikely it becomes.  Maybe if you make it into a religion with John Chang on the cross, you know, to worship.  You can attract more suckers and make money and become popular at the same time.  Think about it.  You could make up your own bible and everything ... (would that be like selling your soul to the devil?)

 

 

You already are dreaming.   ... and attempting to mislead people ... and yourselves.

 

Thanks for all the entertainment!

 

Best wishes   

 

Just to make sure I understand what you are saying here:

 

That if someone holds our position, that they must be dumbed down, or dumb?

 

[Starjumper]

1 minute ago, Ilovecoffee said:

 

Just to make sure I understand what you are saying here:

 

That if someone holds our position, that they must be dumbed down, or dumb?

 

Ya, pretty much.

[Ilovecoffee]

Just now, Starjumper said:

 

Ya, pretty much.

 

Thanks.

[Ilovecoffee]

On 7/10/2017 at 1:03 PM, Starjumper said:

 

Jesus God M.F.!   Can you imagine if there were 100 of these (use your imagination here) always saying the same thing without saying anything.  That would be intensely gross.  I'm sure the forum leaders could devise a way to defend the forum though.

 

 

You never will.  People haven't been dumbed down that much ... yet, and the longer you wait the more unlikely it becomes.  Maybe if you make it into a religion with John Chang on the cross, you know, to worship.  You can attract more suckers and make money and become popular at the same time.  Think about it.  You could make up your own bible and everything ... (would that be like selling your soul to the devil?)

 

 

You already are dreaming.   ... and attempting to mislead people ... and yourselves.

 

Thanks for all the entertainment!

 

Best wishes   

 

We see things differently,  not because people who share our views are dumb or dumbed down, but because overall the majority of spiritual seekers don't think like we do.   They will believe anything they are told so long as it is marketed well and has a bunch of testimonials, and require no evidence other than placebo. 

 

We have no intention of creating a faith based belief system, religion or cult, nor desire to worship any entity, nor desire to become popular, nor desire to profit from this endeavor. 

 

We are not attempting to mislead anyone.

 

You are welcome, and best wishes to you as well.

 

Edited July 11, 2017 by Ilovecoffee

[Starjumper]

I mean, not real dumb, but dumbed down kind of fits, since that's the choice I had been given.  To me it looks more like having priorities mixed up, but to each their own.

Edited July 11, 2017 by Starjumper

[Ilovecoffee]

Just now, Starjumper said:

I mean, not real dumb, but dumbed down fits.  To me it looks more like having priorities mixed up, but to each their own.

 

 

So to make sure I understand if someone holds our position, they are "dumbed down"?

[Ilovecoffee]

23 hours ago, Marblehead said:

I bought a "Fire Starter" at a gun show I attended a couple years ago.  I don't need magic to start a fire.

 

 

 

No one needs magic to start a fire. Starting fire, lightning led lights, none of that has anything at all to do with the ultimate purpose of the system.  Often the ones we wind up with only want to be Goku, but that isn't the point.

 

How it was explained to me, is that from a babies perspective being able to cook food, drive a car, lift heavy objects and put them on the top shelf,  all of that is like magic.   Only a infant would think that ooh I want to grow up so I can get that magic power to get the cookie jar on the top shelf.   Well that isn't the point of becoming an adult, and while an adult can do that it, and it is impressive to an infant, it's really not the point. The powers in MoPai are very much like reaching adulthood, you can do more because you are more, but the abilities gained are not and never were the point.

 

 

 

 

 

[Ilovecoffee]

8 hours ago, Starjumper said:

 

As far as I'm concerned yin energy does not exist, and in eight years my teacher never once used that word, I only use it on this forum because it is the common terminology here.

 

I say rising energy, and rarely I say Earth energy, but ya, energy rising, that's the ticket.

 

 

 

I think the majority will agree with you.