Chinese Bones

[Nungali]

10 hours ago, Marblehead said:

Naw.  That would be like me trying to piss up a tree.

 

 

Man, you wanna try talking P.I.E. to Indians !  Thing is they know one half of the story really well  , The vedas ... and the lingo !  

But goy are they ..... 'nationalistic '  and of course   " Out of India is the correct theory my friend ... it is plainly obvious. " 

 

(But they didnt think I was a nazi ) 

[Apech]

40 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

Man, you wanna try talking P.I.E. to Indians !  Thing is they know one half of the story really well  , The vedas ... and the lingo !  

But goy are they ..... 'nationalistic '  and of course   " Out of India is the correct theory my friend ... it is plainly obvious. " 

 

(But they didnt think I was a nazi ) 

 

 

Maybe we can separate out the linguistics from the ethnicity and leave out the Aryan=Nazi rubbish???  I find the general subject interesting and some of the links have been excellent - but I don't understand the antagonism.

[Marblehead]

Seems Nungali  has some neo-Nazi conflicts in his mind.  Maybe some bad experience in the past.

 

Yeah, the term is Aryan, not Nazi.

 

[Apech]

1 hour ago, Marblehead said:

Seems Nungali  has some neo-Nazi conflicts in his mind.  Maybe some bad experience in the past.

 

Yeah, the term is Aryan, not Nazi.

 

 

No - Nungali said 'how the Aryans were not to be defined by race or ethnicity' it was Voidisyinyang who in the second post began the Nazi accusations.  Aryan is a language group i.e. PIE in the same way as so many people across the world speak English today, in the Roman Empire it was Greek, in Medieval Europe Latin - by all ethnic groups.

 

 

[Brian]

4 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

Man, you wanna try talking P.I.E. to Indians !  Thing is they know one half of the story really well  , The vedas ... and the lingo !  

But goy are they ..... 'nationalistic '  and of course   " Out of India is the correct theory my friend ... it is plainly obvious. " 

 

(But they didnt think I was a nazi ) 

Talking pie to Indians?  Well, there's your problem right there!

 

http://nativerecipes.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-cherokee-princesses-cook.html

 

Cakes? Breads? Yep.  Curiously, though, not so much about pies.

[Apech]

1 minute ago, Brian said:

Talking pie to Indians?  Well, there's your problem right there!

 

http://nativerecipes.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-cherokee-princesses-cook.html

 

Cakes? Breads? Yep.  Curiously, though, not so much about pies.

 

 

How dare you!  Cherokees are Native Americans not Indians.

 

 

[Brian]

4 minutes ago, Apech said:

 

 

How dare you!  Cherokees are Native Americans not Indians.

 

 

[Apech]

1 minute ago, Brian said:

 

What does that squiggly stuff say???

[Brian]

The first word is the Cherokee word for "Cherokee" (transliterated as Tsalagi).  That's not their name for themselves, though, it is the name others applied to them, which may have originally meant "people who live in the mountains" or "people who live in the cave country."  The second word is a variation of their own name for themselves -- "ᎠᏂᏴᏫᏯ" means "principal people" or "original people."  Cherokee origin story has first man and first woman living at what is now called Shining Rock, (curiously enough, where I currently live).

 

I don't speak Tsalagi Gawonihisdi, however, or read the syllabary so I can't translate the rest.

Edited July 14, 2017 by Brian

[Marblehead]

3 hours ago, Apech said:

 

No - Nungali said 'how the Aryans were not to be defined by race or ethnicity' it was Voidisyinyang who in the second post began the Nazi accusations.  Aryan is a language group i.e. PIE in the same way as so many people across the world speak English today, in the Roman Empire it was Greek, in Medieval Europe Latin - by all ethnic groups.

 

 

Okay.  I got confused.  It doesn't take much for that to happen.

 

[Apech]

2 hours ago, Brian said:

The first word is the Cherokee word for "Cherokee" (transliterated as Tsalagi).  That's not their name for themselves, though, it is the name others applied to them, which may have originally meant "people who live in the mountains" or "people who live in the cave country."  The second word is a variation of their own name for themselves -- "ᎠᏂᏴᏫᏯ" means "principal people" or "original people."  Cherokee origin story has first man and first woman living at what is now called Shining Rock, (curiously enough, where I currently live).

 

I don't speak Tsalagi Gawonihisdi, however, or read the syllabary so I can't translate the rest.

 

 

Thank you Kemosabe.

[Marblehead]

7 minutes ago, Apech said:

 

 

Thank you Kemosabe.

Is he any relation to Chemotherapy?

 

[Apech]

40 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

Is he any relation to Chemotherapy?

 

 

 

Now you are being very silly.

[Brian]

37 minutes ago, Apech said:

 

 

Now you are being very silly.

 

[Marblehead]

3 hours ago, Apech said:

 

 

Now you are being very silly.

It states on my health certificate that I'm allowed.

 

[Nungali]

15 hours ago, Apech said:

 

What does that squiggly stuff say???

 

Its Aryan for  ;  "Har  har now you guys are having an ethno/linguistic dispute " 

[Nungali]

19 hours ago, Apech said:

 

 

Maybe we can separate out the linguistics from the ethnicity and leave out the Aryan=Nazi rubbish???  I find the general subject interesting and some of the links have been excellent - but I don't understand the antagonism.

 

Good idea .  I  tried  to be clear .....  

 

Tell me what you find interesting  within the general subject   ......    wait !

 

What is the general subject ? 

[Nungali]

12 hours ago, Marblehead said:

Okay.  I got confused.  It doesn't take much for that to happen.

 

 

Plus a certain person went on a  ranting rampage about something he himself introduced here     

 

 

[voidisyinyang]

11 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

Plus a certain person went on a  ranting rampage about something he himself introduced here     

 

 

 

Both you and "Apeche" keep misrepresenting what I have stated.

 

You introduced in your OP - "aryan empire" and then you introduced the phase "Aryan europe" and most recently you have claimed that Aryans went into Europe.

 

None of these claims by you are true but they are common claims of Neo-nazis. Therefore they are neo-Nazi claims.

 

Kongming has even gone as far as to make direct Neo-Nazi claims about Northern European phenotypes being Aryan and that is your implication as well.

 

You keep stating you are taking about "language and culture" but I already debunked that "coded" claim was made by the Nazis as well.

 

And so now you want to refer to me in the "third person" - etc. without actually engaging with the evidence I've presented.

 

haha. That's just ideological denial - plain and simple.

 

And you seem to believe in the Aryans out of India view point when this has been clearly been debunked already.

 

So all I can say is read the research I've posted. It takes some time to read the research.

 

But it's easy to just make caddy comments.

 

by the way Apeche - "native americans" is now commonly rejected along with "indians" - as the first peoples here were clearly not "Americans" as that is the name of the colonizers who committed genocide against the "Indians" etc. So indigenous or native peoples is more acceptable or the particular tribal name.

 

 

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

Both you and "Apeche" keep misrepresenting what I have stated.

 

No have been the champ at that all along  matey ... introducing your racist ratings , accusations, misunderstandings of what people clearly said over and over again, large type face bolded rantings . pages of data about what was not being discussed, silly immature danceing and   haarhaaring at people when you thiught you made some sort of point ....    and now a backpeddle .

 All for what reason ? 

 

(I know, not sure if you do )

 

1 hour ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

You introduced in your OP - "aryan empire" and then you introduced the phase "Aryan europe" and most recently you have claimed that Aryans went into Europe.

 

Nope .   I talked about and quoted old mythology, scripture and prehistory about a cultural group from a place known as Aria , in various forms and languages throughout ancient history.  The quote marks indicate that , source is vendidad.   'Aryan Europe' is ridiculous and isnt even a phrase .    And never said they 'went into ' Europe   all your silly oaraphrasing and insereting  your own meaning s.

 

 

1 hour ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

None of these claims by you are true but they are common claims of Neo-nazis. Therefore they are neo-Nazi claims.

 

Nope .  This was already explained to you by me and others and any other reader that cares to look back  and see it. You keep bringing it up each page anew, hoping people will believe you that have not been following along nor  bothered to check back on your antics.

 

1 hour ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

Kongming has even gone as far as to make direct Neo-Nazi claims about Northern European phenotypes being Aryan and that is your implication as well.

 

You keep stating you are taking about "language and culture" but I already debunked that "coded" claim was made by the Nazis as well.

 

And so now you want to refer to me in the "third person" - etc. without actually engaging with the evidence I've presented.

 

haha. That's just ideological denial - plain and simple.

 

Good ... I hope that really annoyed you , I could see how frustrated you were getting 

 

1 hour ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

And you seem to believe in the Aryans out of India view point when this has been clearly been debunked already.

 

Do I ?    You cant seem to read and follow anything written here.     I was actually saying its tedious to talk to Indians about the vedas as they link it to fundie religion views and OII theory ... even over out of Africa theory in some cases 

 

lets see what you turn that comment into .

 

 

1 hour ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

So all I can say is read the research I've posted. It takes some time to read the research.

 

No way ... I was not even talking about genetics, you were , go start your own thread about it !

 

1 hour ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

But it's easy to just make caddy comments.

 

I am a mirror . 

 

1 hour ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

by the way Apeche - "native americans" is now commonly rejected along with "indians" - as the first peoples here were clearly not "Americans" as that is the name of the colonizers who committed genocide against the "Indians" etc. So indigenous or native peoples is more acceptable or the particular tribal name.

 

 

 

 

Blah  blah  blah    ..... 

[voidisyinyang]

8 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 And never said they 'went into ' Europe   all your silly oaraphrasing and insereting  your own meaning s.

 

 

Nungali said:

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that was later  to be known as Aryan , named after the country they first formed that cultural connection 'hub'  and or  enclave .

 

The PIE languages may have been developed as a 'trade language' 

 

The influences  out of PII culture  were equally  cyclic, 'in and out'   ..... SOME  of those influences went into Europe

 

 

[Apech]

On 7/3/2017 at 2:34 AM, voidisyinyang said:

 

You mean like Neo-Nazi b.s.?

 

 

 

 

Wow you really do!

 

 

 

So you're just lifting b.s. from a neo-nazi website?

 

 

 Have I been misrepresenting what you said?

 

Here it is - read for yourself.

[voidisyinyang]

Just now, Apech said:

 Have I been misrepresenting what you said?

 

Here it is - read for yourself.

 

quoting me is not what you said.

 

Nice try though.

 

 

[Apech]

1 hour ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

Both you and "Apeche" keep misrepresenting what I have stated.

 

You introduced in your OP - "aryan empire" and then you introduced the phase "Aryan europe" and most recently you have claimed that Aryans went into Europe.

 

None of these claims by you are true but they are common claims of Neo-nazis. Therefore they are neo-Nazi claims.

This is a syllogistic error.

[voidisyinyang]

Just now, Apech said:

This is a syllogistic error.

 

Because of the "but" - nice try.

 

Semantics - not a logical error.

 

Try dealing with the actually evidence instead of playing semantics.