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A Cannabis company has just purchased the town of Nipton California which will make ti the most Cannabis friendly town in the US. I have passed through Nipton several times on my way to the Mojave Preserve. BTW, it is hotter than hell there in the summer time.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/40824837/marijuana-company-buys-entire-us-town-to-create-cannabis-friendly-municipality

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I was just thinking of starting a mj thread, gonna jump in & segue a little w/ this:

 

 

 

Sen. Cory Booker "It’s so hard to find a job. You can’t get business licenses. You can’t get Pell Grants. You can’t get public housing or even food stamps. So many things are cut off to you. Now, imagine if those arrests are overwhelmingly concentrated in certain communities, where you have the churning in of the poor people in those communities, or minority folks or disproportionately large numbers of the black men in that community have been arrested for doing things that if you went to a college campus and really did the police work, you’d find that large numbers of those folks are doing those drugs."

 

Sen. Cory Booker’s bill would void federal convictions for marijuana possession and would grant new sentencing hearings to those convicted on other marijuana charges.

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6 hours ago, ralis said:

 BTW, it is hotter than hell there in the summer time.

 

 

But if you smoke enough you won't notice.

 

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15 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

But if you smoke enough you won't notice.

 

 

So true! :lol:

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I had an associate helping out at the farm when she wasn't following Phish :D.

She was a Canadian citizen and hoped to return there and grow cannabis which was (is?) legal if the requirements were met.

She got a parking ticket (Phish was playing locally) and went to pay it at the police station.

 

Sitting in her car she flagged down a pedestrian to ask were to park pay etc. He turned out to be a police and noticed the roaches in her ashtray. She got arrested and lost her chance to get licensed to grow mary jane up north.:wacko:

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17 hours ago, zerostao said:

I am pro weed, however, trying to grow weed in a place that is hotter than hell? Ideal conditions would be between 70-80 F and 40-50% humidity.
So, a lot of manipulation required to grow there in Nipton. "legalization" of weed comes in all varieties of form. West Virginia and Ohio got it terribly wrong while Oregon and Colorado did it right. In West Virginia, you can get your "weed" in any form you like except in its natural form. Some states have chosen a select few who have the political clout to reap all the profits. Capitalistic cronyism is alive and well in the weed patch.
Bayer and Monsanto have positioned themselves to dominate the weed industry in the future.

And this https://www.yahoo.com/news/toxic-waste-u-pot-farms-alarms-experts-100944016.html

is downright horrendous. Growing weed naturally is one thing, these aberations are criminal.

 

I think the company will be growing offsite somewhere in California and transporting to Nipton. Right now there is nothing to speak of in Nipton except freight trains come through every twenty minutes or so.

 

Medical is legal here in NM, but the governor is adamant on keeping legal out as well as hemp out. Her mind must be somewhere in the dark ages. Her term is up next year and am certain it will be legal after she leaves.

 

There is always Nevada, California and Colorado that are close by! The dispensaries in Nevada are first class with knowledgeable budtenders. The dispensaries are clean and well managed as seen in the video.

 

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Let's not forget this 'town' has population of 20! 

So a little smaller then the average theater's washroom. 

 

There's probably a couple dozen such tiny towns a company can buy lock stock and barrel and turn to there own vision.  Having MJ just makes it automatically profitably.   Drug tourism is already a thriving market for quaint Colorado towns, or so I hear.

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Colorado legalized it first. Pretty weed friendly over here.On 420 our capital gets overtaken 

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On 8/4/2017 at 0:06 PM, Trunk said:

 federal convictions for marijuana possession

are an illegal assumption of undelegated rights by the federal government, period end of story

 

they have no lawful power to say anything about it whatsoever - same as with drugs.

 

that said, a mj habit should not be part of any serious cultivator's cirriculum

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3 hours ago, joeblast said:

are an illegal assumption of undelegated rights by the federal government, period end of story

 

they have no lawful power to say anything about it whatsoever - same as with drugs.

 

that said, a mj habit should not be part of any serious cultivator's cirriculum

 

The bold is only your opinion and does not include the history of Cannabis being used as a medicine and an altered state enhancer for cultivation. Tibetans and Indians made the use of temple balls in rituals and cultivation.

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On 8/6/2017 at 4:54 PM, zerostao said:

Bayer and Monsanto have positioned themselves to dominate the weed industry in the future.

And this https://www.yahoo.com/news/toxic-waste-u-pot-farms-alarms-experts-100944016.html

is downright horrendous. Growing weed naturally is one thing, these aberations are criminal.

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Pollution from illegal marijuana farms deep in California's national forests is far worse than previously thought, and has turned thousands of acres into waste dumps so toxic that simply touching plants has landed law enforcement officers in the hospital.

The volume of banned or restricted pesticides and illegally applied fertilizers in the woods dwarfs estimates by the U.S. Forest Service in 2014, when a top enforcement official testified that the pollution was threatening forest land in California and other states.

California accounts for more than 90 percent of illegal U.S. marijuana farming, with much of it exported to other states from thousands of sites hidden deep inside forested federal land, and more on private property, law enforcement officials said. The state is still developing a licensing system for growers even though legal retail sales of the drug will begin next year, and medical use has been allowed for decades.

Ecologist Mourad Gabriel, who documents the issue for the Forest Service as well as other state, local and federal law enforcement agencies, estimates California's forests hold 41 times more solid fertilizers and 80 times more liquid pesticides than Forest Service investigators found in 2013.

Growers use fertilizers and pesticides long restricted or banned in the United States, including carbofuran and zinc phosphide. In previous years, it was commonly sold fertilizers and pesticides that were used illegally, law enforcement officials said.

Exposure to the pesticides has sent at least five law enforcement officials and two suspects to hospitals with skin rashes, respiratory problems and other symptoms, court documents and state data show.

Use of any chemicals in national forests is against federal law, as pesticides have killed sensitive species and fertilizers can cause algae blooms and bacteria problems in rivers and streams.

According to unpublished data seen by Reuters, Gabriel, who has visited more than 100 sites in California and is widely considered the top expert on toxics at marijuana farms, calculated that federal land in California contains 731,000 pounds of solid fertilizer, 491,000 ounces of concentrated liquid fertilizer and 200,000 ounces of toxic pesticides.

If much of the pesticide and fertilizer were released into a single stream rather than scattered around the state in leaky containers, the volume would exceed the amount of chemicals spilled in 2014 into the Elk River in West Virginia, which left 300,000 residents without access to potable water.

"We're getting contamination over and over again at those locations," said Gabriel, as toxins move from unsafe containers into the soil and water.

At sites that state officials said they had cleaned up completely, his team found 30-50 percent of the chemicals were still there.

"They are like superfund sites," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Karen Escobar, whose Fresno office has filed numerous marijuana-related environmental damage cases. Superfund sites are those targeted by the U.S. government for hazardous waste cleanup because of the risk to human health or the environment.

The most toxic sites cost as much as $100,000 to clean up, leaving taxpayers with a bill that could reach $100 million or more in California alone.

"These places aren't safe to go into," said state Assemblyman Jim Wood, who has pushed for cleanup funding.

Use of toxics has grown over the past three to four years, and chemicals have been found at sites in Oregon and Washington as well, said Chris Boehm, the Forest Service's assistant director for enforcement and investigation. "In the last couple years we've lost a lot of the ground we had picked up in eradicating and cleaning up the new sites we find."

The expense and danger of cleanup has created a backlog of 639 illegal marijuana farms awaiting restoration in California, according to U.S. Forest Service data compiled for Reuters. Each farm covers up to 50 acres.

Gabriel said that figure understated the problem, and pointed out that toxics are used at thousands of illegal farms on private and tribal land. After a year or two, growers often abandon sites, leaving containers of chemicals so toxic a quarter-teaspoon could kill a bear.

Well, that's what WIRED culture typically does - wantonly toxify healthy practices for convenience and profits.  Because there is just NO BASE RESPECT for Mother Nature in WIRED society - but in fact, the opposite!

 

For example, yoga was a great health practice in India...  But once WEIRDos imported it, they just had to add some material accessories like sexy yoga pants and mats, etc.  Well, guess what?  More than 80 percent of the the micro-plastics found in the ocean are actually micro-fibers from synthetic clothing (like yoga pants) and most plastic yoga mats are toxic to both yogis and the environment.  So, look at the massive toxic waste stream this once-healthy practice has now generated after it became "Westernized!"

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What's wrong with this picture?  WIRED eyes will never see this - but she's polluting both her own body and environment with her synthetic yoga attire and plastic mat. 

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Most yoga mats are made from PVC (polyvinyl chloride), also knows as vinyl, the most toxic plastic (recycle code #3). PVC is toxic during every stage of its life cycle. It is toxic during its manufacture; it is toxic to the end consumers; and it is toxic during its disposal. As consumers, we are exposed to PVC, through inhalation and skin contact.
The main ingredient in PVC is vinyl chloride, which is a known human carcinogen. We are exposed to the gas that PVC yoga mats emit.
Also, dioxins are byproducts of PVC yoga mats’ manufacturing and disposal. Dioxins are a group of toxic chemicals that share a similar chemical structure and induce harm through a similar mechanism.  They have been classified as a human carcinogen.  They are on the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s list of priority pollutants.  They are persistent (they do not break down easily in the environment) and bioaccumulative (they build up in our bodies).
Plasticizers are then added to make it soft and flexible. There are a variety of phthalates used as plasticizers and some of them are so toxic that in 2012 the US government enacted a law to restrict the use of them in children’s toys and some other children’s items (for more info visit here). Phthalates have been linked to birth defects, asthma, neurodevelopmental problems in newborns, fertility issues, obesity, and cancer.
And lastly, heavy metals (such as lead) are added to make it more durable.

Electrically, she's also giving herself a double-whammy... 

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Not only is her plastic clothing STRIPPING ELECTRONS AWAY FROM HER, but she's also then SHIELDING herself from grounding in the wet sand there to replenish them! 

 

And then microfibers from her clothing will eventually wash into the ocean behind her.  Her mat (like millions of others) was made from petroleum...and will eventually fill up a landfill somewhere.  And what the h*ll is a landfill, anyways?  Basically just a big heap of trash that mostly doesn't decompose...as opposed to natural waste in the sustainable past that all simply became compost.  Reality is, there shouldn't even be ANY landfills, ANYWHERE!

 

So, this environmental trashing is a HUGE BLINDSPOT going across the board in WIRED culture - even in holistic health practices - much less clandestine pot farms! 

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Recycling Chaos In U.S. As China Bans 'Foreign Waste'

The U.S. exports about one-third of its recycling, and nearly half goes to China. For decades, China has used recyclables from around the world to supply its manufacturing boom. But this summer it declared that this "foreign waste" includes too many other non-recyclable materials that are "dirty," even "hazardous." In a filing with the World Trade Organization the country listed 24 kinds of solid wastes it would ban "to protect China's environmental interests and people's health."
Now it no longer wants to, so the materials sits here with no place to go.
"It just keeps coming and coming and coming," says Rogue's Laura Leebrick. In the warehouse, she is dwarfed by stacks of orphaned recycling bales.
And what are recyclables with nowhere to go?
"Right now, by definition, that material out there is garbage," she says. "It has no value. There is no demand for it in the marketplace. It's garbage."
For now, Rogue Waste says it has no choice but to take all of this recycling to the local landfill
Without Chinese buyers, Frank says U.S. recycling companies are playing a game of musical chairs, and the music stops when China's ban on waste imports fully kicks in.
"The rest of the world cannot make up that gap
," he said. "That's where we have what I call a bit of chaos going on."

So now that China is tired of taking all our SH*T and doing our dirty work for us...NOW WHAT?  Start living more ecologically with less plastic?  Nooppeeee...just MORE LANDFILLS, PLEASE!!!

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6 minutes ago, ralis said:

 

The bold is only your opinion and does not include the history of Cannabis being used as a medicine and an altered state enhancer for cultivation. Tibetans and Indians made the use of temple balls in rituals and cultivation.

lol whatever floats your boat, but in a game where every last efficiency extracted counts, throwing a translucent blanket that flares the mingmen fire and makes one think they're a little further ahead than they really are isnt really doing one much of any favors.  if one's a serious cultivator, of course.  and if you dont think you can tell the difference, maybe it'd be a good idea to stop long enough to be able to notice the difference again :P

"medicine"-/= habit

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2 minutes ago, joeblast said:

lol whatever floats your boat, but in a game where every last efficiency extracted counts, throwing a translucent blanket that flares the mingmen fire and makes one think they're a little further ahead than they really are isnt really doing one much of any favors.  if one's a serious cultivator, of course.  and if you dont think you can tell the difference, maybe it'd be a good idea to stop long enough to be able to notice the difference again :P

"medicine"-/= habit

 

What does the bold mean? Makes no sense. I have a difficult time with discussing anything with a know it all, such as yourself.

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-/= does not equal

 

ya heard of this great new thing they invented, called the internet, where you can search for all kinds of information?  or does the democratic underground give you an AOL Online disc with home page and portal that make sure you only see the proper information, and has no search engine, just a list of topics to sort through, all curated and pre approved?

 

medicine is not equivalent to habit - for context's sake.  but either way, its not a substitute for proper cultivation.  which is why I said if one is a serious cultivator...its 2017 and juts because some shamans used it for ritual or whatever, doesnt mean it doesnt cloud you all up, and for days afterward.  this should be pretty common knowledge by now - if your level of cultivation is good enough, weed's only going to drag that dynamic down, on an individual usage basis.  if that's one's every day happy hour, then one simply should not consider himself a serious cultivator anyway because of the dopamine dynamic that gets introduced by daily usage, that's simply not conducive to cultivation.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, joeblast said:

-/= does not equal

 

ya heard of this great new thing they invented, called the internet, where you can search for all kinds of information?  or does the democratic underground give you an AOL Online disc with home page and portal that make sure you only see the proper information, and has no search engine, just a list of topics to sort through, all curated and pre approved?

 

medicine is not equivalent to habit - for context's sake.  but either way, its not a substitute for proper cultivation.  which is why I said if one is a serious cultivator...its 2017 and juts because some shamans used it for ritual or whatever, doesnt mean it doesnt cloud you all up, and for days afterward.  this should be pretty common knowledge by now - if your level of cultivation is good enough, weed's only going to drag that dynamic down, on an individual usage basis.  if that's one's every day happy hour, then one simply should not consider himself a serious cultivator anyway because of the dopamine dynamic that gets introduced by daily usage, that's simply not conducive to cultivation.

 

 

 

I have a lot of math and that is not how it is written. Must be your invention. 

 

Until you stop the condescending remarks I am putting you on ignore. Your narrative is out in know it all land and lacks empathy for others. 

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1 hour ago, ralis said:

 

I have a lot of math and that is not how it is written. Must be your invention. 

 

Until you stop the condescending remarks I am putting you on ignore. Your narrative is out in know it all land and lacks empathy for others. 

speech that's too direct seems like it is holding a magnifying glass in between your forehead and the sun :rolleyes:  why is this, that one cannot speak honestly and forthrightly around you, without you taking offense to something?   oh no I didnt write it correctly, so it must mean something wacky, since you have me in the wacky conspiracy theorist bucket in your head *chuckles*

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10 minutes ago, joeblast said:

speech that's too direct seems like it is holding a magnifying glass in between your forehead and the sun :rolleyes:  why is this, that one cannot speak honestly and forthrightly around you, without you taking offense to something?   oh no I didnt write it correctly, so it must mean something wacky, since you have me in the wacky conspiracy theorist bucket in your head *chuckles*

 

Direct is one thing and I guess you don’t know as to what condescending remarks are. 

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11 hours ago, joeblast said:

-/= does not equal

 

ya heard of this great new thing they invented, called the internet, where you can search for all kinds of information?  or does the democratic underground give you an AOL Online disc with home page and portal that make sure you only see the proper information, and has no search engine, just a list of topics to sort through, all curated and pre approved?

 

medicine is not equivalent to habit - for context's sake.  but either way, its not a substitute for proper cultivation.  which is why I said if one is a serious cultivator...its 2017 and juts because some shamans used it for ritual or whatever, doesnt mean it doesnt cloud you all up, and for days afterward.  this should be pretty common knowledge by now - if your level of cultivation is good enough, weed's only going to drag that dynamic down, on an individual usage basis.  if that's one's every day happy hour, then one simply should not consider himself a serious cultivator anyway because of the dopamine dynamic that gets introduced by daily usage, that's simply not conducive to cultivation.

 

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_receptor

 

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Now that California has legalized recreational cannabis, Vermont is the first state to legalize by legislature. The governor signed the measure into law today. Sessions thinks he can somehow prevent this, but the train is rolling full speed ahead with at least 30 states that has some form of legal cannabis. 

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/370139-vermont-governor-signs-marijuana-legalization-bill

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17 minutes ago, windwalker said:

Is it legal I thought it was still illegal under the federal government law

 

States are laboratories of democracy, thus states rights. Although, states rights are fine with right wing republicans as long as it suits their fear, paranoia and control freak instabilities.

 

If you don't like cannabis, then don't eat, vape or smoke it. Many use the flower for medicine in which there is mounting research as well as anecdotal evidence as to the efficacy of the compounds in the flower.

 

What I find ludicrous is that one can have a legal dose of opiates, overdose/die, drink and kill others in a car crash and smoke cigarettes and die. All perfectly legal and yet smoke a joint and go to jail. Refer madness was started by one man and weak minded fools still believe him almost 100 years later.

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