The Problem With The Forum Admin...

[Starjumper]

23 minutes ago, Aletheia said:

The problem is you're making claims about things you can't back up so that's a bit of a problem. And you are openly saying drew and I have emotional issues and are insane too. So perhaps you'd like to read through what you wrote and think about what you've written from a perspective other than your own.

 

I'm not prepared to come to this forum if there's a constant drone in the background saying my practice plays around with emotional issues. Really it's a little pathetic at this stage tbh and it's not something I really think I should have to put up with.

 

If you don't like what I'm doing then say so without all the childish name-calling. If you can't do that then really you should just not comment at all.

 

Well you started by attacking me for what I thought were helpful comments, and you continue following me and initiating other attacks against me across other threads, and you also attack other people.  So you know, take a flying leap and grow up.

[Marblehead]

7 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said:

Even the "thank you" button can be used with the wrong intention.

 

I couldn't resist hitting the "Thank You" button.

 

But I don't do "unconditional love".

 

[Marblehead]

3 minutes ago, Starjumper said:

 

... and grow up.

But I don't want to grow up.

 

[rene]

1 minute ago, Ilovecoffee said:

 

I'm not

Sorry, guess I need a scorecard to keep you guys sorted. Not interested in your evasions; I was genuinely interested, thought you might help me see what the problem was. Oh well. Peace out. (-:

[Starjumper]

3 hours ago, Aletheia said:

 

I think internet Mo Pai -- tested by science -- is a retarded memetics. I'm not Mo Pai, I'm a Western (post "Turn" Heideggerian) ontologist and media ecologist and get all my qigong stuff from drew's posts.

 

Well there's your problem, you should learn chi kung from someone who knows chi kung instead of from a new age scholar.

Edited August 13, 2017 by Starjumper

[Hancock]

15 minutes ago, Aletheia said:

 

What is primary is acoustic space where entities and meaning flow into one another like the fabric of dream. Linear time -- past/present/future breaks down, contained space breaks down, subject-object distinctions break down etc.

 

Cover your eyes and listen... there are no discrete things (no static tables, chairs, people etc), all you hear is merged motion.

 

Now put you fingers in your ears and what do you see? Fixed static space with things contained within. Static objects whose meaning can be know in isolation like a dictionary -- table, chairs, books, humans etc.

 

So in an oral world the ear does the seeing in some respect.

 

But when we take the multi-sensual world of oral culture and fix it in space inside meaningless abstract signs that relate to nothing in nature -- THESE SIGNS -- then when we read and retranslate the signs back into something meaningful we bias the eye over and above the other senses. That visual bias is the problem of Western metaphysics i.e PLATO.

 

That's the simple version. Go and watch Ebert's Heidegger videos on Being and Time. Present-at-hand is visual with direct access to meaning and readiness-at-hand is acoustic where meaning structures merge into the background of the world.

 

 

I understand. Our mind filters things and over the course of life development we piece together patterns and cut out other perceptions based on subconscious bias. 

Got it.

 

What's else will help me get further in stabilizing my capacities?

 

Also Thanks for the help so far. It's very understandable and much appreciated.

[Starjumper]

1 minute ago, Marblehead said:

But I don't want to grow up.

 

It's too late for you, you already did.

[Aletheia]

Just now, Hancock said:

I understand. Our mind filters things and over the course of life development we piece together patterns and cut out other perceptions based on subconscious bias. 

Got it.

 

What's else will help me get further in stabilizing my capacities?

 

Also Thanks for the help so far. It's very understandable and much appreciated.

 

No you can't get these things by reading a post about it. You have to really think these things over until you really get it. I spent 6 months reading Being and Time every day all day and still didn't have a clue.

[Hancock]

1 minute ago, Aletheia said:

 

No you can't get these things by reading a post about it. You have to really think these things over until you really get it. I spent 6 months reading Being and Time every day all day and still didn't have a clue.

I spent 7 years learning and experiencing that we are more than our personal perception of the world. It's why I understood what you were saying. Just I learned that it was the Ego who held us back, because it's a kind psychic parasite that feeds on our life energy that we give off. They look like amorphous shadows , etc etc.

I've seen an experienced weird carp and even went to see if I was insane. Unfortunately no I'm not craycray just very perceptible to things, an that was borne out of a necessity for survival.

 

So my understanding goes a bit deeper than the intellectual level..I just wanted to let you know, so you know I'm not pulling your leg.

 

Man we live in a weird ass world

[voidisyinyang]

5 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

I couldn't resist hitting the "Thank You" button.

 

But I don't do "unconditional love".

 

 

It is as your "warrior" phrase, "I'll help you if I can, I'll kill you if I must."

 

So are Westerners really "helping" people or even "helping" Nature for that matter?

 

We can say there are more people on the planet since the spread of Western imperialism but biomass is not the same as biodiversity.

 

For example in terms of biomass there are still more ants than humans on the planet - ants have greater biomass and so still dominate the earth.

 

Ants practice eusociality - just as humans do - which is to say we make a "nest" - and then have multiple generations living and staying in the nest to help raise the young.

 

This is detailed by E.O. Wilson's book The Social Conquest of Nature.

 

But Wilson is very clear that industrial civilization is not helping out as a whole and says we need to set aside - I think he said 25% of our land on the planet and the oceans as ecological reserves for wildlife.

 

Obviously that is not happening. I first read E.O. Wilson while studying conservation biology in Costa Rica in 1992 for a college semester.

 

So the thing is can we "kill" Nature if we "must"?

 

Apparently the warriors are trying to do that but obviously it is ridiculous.

 

The mushrooms thrive on nuclear radiation so they will survive what is happening on the planet with the 450 nuke plants leaking tritium and the various nuclear weapon accidents and depleted uranium, etc.

 

Just uranium mining itself is an atrocity and so environmental racism tries to hide the pollution of the Western warriors, etc.

 

I have a feeling that the indigenous cultures - the supposed poor people who supposedly need the "help" of the West were doing much better before genocidal colonialism spread around the world. haha.

 

No - I would say that Nature or the Emptiness helps us and we can never kill Nature or the Emptiness.

 

For example qigong master Yan Xin was challenged by the top Japanese qigong master to a martial arts duel.

 

The top Japanese qigong master was unbeat and so sent all his qi energy to attack Yan Xin.

 

So what did Yan Xin do? He just immediately emptied out all the qi energy attacking him and sent it into the Emptiness.

 

He didn't have to kill anyone since the person attacking him was using their ego - whereas he relied on the Emptiness to help him out. haha.

 

That is the secret of "Unconditional love."

[Hancock]

4 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

 

For example qigong master Yan Xin was challenged by the top Japanese qigong master to a martial arts duel.

 

The top Japanese qigong master was unbeat and so sent all his qi energy to attack Yan Xin.

 

So what did Yan Xin do? He just immediately emptied out all the qi energy attacking him and sent it into the Emptiness.

 

He didn't have to kill anyone since the person attacking him was using their ego - whereas he relied on the Emptiness to help him out. haha.

 

That is the secret of "Unconditional love."

How does one practically empty attacking Qi into emptiness? What's the skill/technique?

 

Where can I read up on this legend?

[Marblehead]

4 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said:

 

It is as your "warrior" phrase, "I'll help you if I can, I'll kill you if I must."

 

So are Westerners really "helping" people or even "helping" Nature for that matter?

 

 

Well, since China and India are the most polluted countries on the planet we really can't say that they are presenting a good example.

 

Sure, the West does a lot of polluting as well.  But not near as much as now China and India.

 

India's divine river is so polluted that nothing can live in it.

 

Most of the Japanese in big cities wear masks to filter the air that they breathe.

 

So yes, perhaps some of the Island nations of the Pacific could be good examples of respecting nature but not China or India.

 

[ralis]

1 minute ago, Marblehead said:

Well, since China and India are the most polluted countries on the planet we really can't say that they are presenting a good example.

 

Sure, the West does a lot of polluting as well.  But not near as much as now China and India.

 

India's divine river is so polluted that nothing can live in it.

 

Most of the Japanese in big cities wear masks to filter the air that they breathe.

 

So yes, perhaps some of the Island nations of the Pacific could be good examples of respecting nature but not China or India.

 

 

Actually China is working on wind and solar to remediate pollution. India is building massive solar farms. 

[ralis]

6 minutes ago, Hancock said:

How does one practically empty attacking Qi into emptiness? What's the skill/technique?

 

Where can I read up on this legend?

 

Send me a PM and I can send everything I have on Yan Xin. 

[Marblehead]

1 minute ago, ralis said:

 

Actually China is working on wind and solar to remediate pollution. India is building massive solar farms. 

While this is true it still doesn't negate that fact that they generate much more pollution right now than does the USA.

 

[ralis]

1 minute ago, Marblehead said:

While this is true it still doesn't negate that fact that they generate much more pollution right now than does the USA.

 

 

Give them some time to change infrastructure. It won't happen overnight. 

[Marblehead]

19 minutes ago, ralis said:

 

Give them some time to change infrastructure. It won't happen overnight. 

Oh, I'm not suggesting that they can't vastly improve things.  It's just that right now it is an inaccurate statement to suggest that the USA is a poor example for the West when China and India are worse example of the East.

 

[Aletheia]

44 minutes ago, Starjumper said:

 

Well there's your problem, you should learn chi kung from someone who knows chi kung instead of from an idiot.

 

Why are these kinds of posts allowed on this forum?

 

If my practice plays around with emotions and causes insanity and is put together by an idiot like Starjumper is claiming then obviously my insanity is so severe not only other people are feeling its effects but so is material reality itself. Now that's a seriously next level virulent form of craziness no doubt!

 

Seriously no need for the mods to have their 3rd eyes open for that above quote. What is going on here, mods?

[Apech]

3 hours ago, Brian said:

You have quite a fascination with other people's ejaculations and orgasms.

 

Perhaps you should consider talking to someone about this.

 

"So it's o.k. to post "soft porn" images on this site with absolutely no condemnation by the mods - like a snatch shot of an Egyptian Goddess - or a S/M "tight" leather frontal open idealist Taoist Nun."

 

What? Where?

[Apech]

3 minutes ago, Aletheia said:

 

Why are these kinds of posts allowed on this forum?

 

If my practice plays around with emotions and causes insanity and is put together by an idiot like Starjumper is claiming then obviously my insanity is so severe not only other people are feeling its effects but so is material reality itself. Now that's a seriously next level virulent form of craziness no doubt!

 

Seriously no need for the mods to have their 3rd eyes open for that above quote. What is going on here, mods?

 

 

If you object to a post and think it breaks forum rules then you report it to the mods and they decide whether to take action.  For someone complaining you should at least learn how things work.

 

 

[Hancock]

You people should quit attacking each other.

 

No matter your level of development, this attacking is the issue of issues.

 

It's been overlooked by staff for whatever reasons, an it just needs stopped. Since they're not stepping in for their own reasons, it is up to us.

Y'all are adults backhanded crap, insults, etc all stop us from developing our potential. If you disagree with someone, state your case without insulting them personally.

I mean there's post I'd like to Thank but they have backhanded insults in them, so it's not appropriate to Thank. I don't want to take sides in personal beefs.

 

If staff isn't policing things the way you like, it's up to you to call it out. To speak freely.

Over time we'll be heard, or they'll try to silence things. But from what I understand it goes on in all sorts of forums where people express their opinion, an behavior isn't being policed neither is authenticity.

 

However I learned real stuff from you and Starjumper, so I think you're genuine in your areas of expertise.

 

 

 

Edited August 13, 2017 by Hancock

[Aletheia]

1 minute ago, Apech said:

 

 

If you object to a post and think it breaks forum rules then you report it to the mods and they decide whether to take action.  For someone complaining you should at least learn how things work.

 

 

 

No I'm not reporting posts. That whole way of thinking just descends into anarchistic nihilism whereby the rules keep being drawn back to the lowest common denominator -- namely those still caught up with emotional issues dictating the general rule structure of the forum because they're the one's most easily offended by things.

 

If I believed that system could work I would readily participate in the process. As things stand I've never reported any posts to anyone on the forum. I might see something and wonder exactly how deranged someone's world-view is for them to be thinking such thoughts and I just leave it at that and go browse something else.

 

But for the sanity of the forum and for people to make real progress I think something has to happen with the modding of the forum. I don't believe it's going to happen and just from my personal perspective it's not really going to effect my progress. But I do believe people will and are suffering the consequences.

 

I vote for drew to be mod if you want my opinion. That's if he wants to be a mod here!

[Brian]

3 minutes ago, Hancock said:

You people should quit attacking each other.

 

No matter your level of development, this attacking is the issue of issues.

 

It's been overlooked by staff for whatever reasons, an it just needs stopped. Since they're not stepping in for their own reasons, it is up to us.

Y'all are adults backhanded crap, insults, etc all stop us from developing our potential. If you disagree with someone, state your case without insulting them personally.

I mean there's post I'd like to Thank but they have backhanded insults in them, so it's not

 

Adults?!?

 

Why...

 

I've never been so insulted in my life!

 

 

 

 

[Hancock]

7 minutes ago, Brian said:

Adults?!?

 

Why...

 

I've never been so insulted in my life!

 

 

 

 

Lol! Seriously saw that an just burst out laughing.  Thanks all that tension from my last post just melted away. Good one Brian.

 

I war to add, if you weren't joking an were insulted, that's not my intention to offend you.  I just naturally found your post hilarious. No offense intended Brian

Edited August 13, 2017 by Hancock

[Nungali]

42 minutes ago, Aletheia said:

 

Why are these kinds of posts allowed on this forum?

 

 

 

Why not?  This forum allows you and your idol to rant on about how the whole forum is  wrong and inappropriate  and false and and and   ....  

 

Why are your posts allowed on this forum   ....   Hmmmmmm  ....   ? 

 

Should the ones you don't like be not allowed, yet yours allowed ?