When are the moon's forces strongest during its phases?

[Aletheia]

3 minutes ago, Apeiron&Peiron said:

If you want to prevent energy from interacting with other people, there are a few things that can be done. You could do the perineum flexing... but that is a temporary fix for some flow deviations. 

 

In general, if you have done enough training to have a somewhat open MCO, putting attention anywhere will tend to cause a type of stagnation in the pineal area and hips. There is strong flow-through in the front and back channel that tends to get messed up with directed intention.

 

This is a bit of a tough point, though. If you are not accustomed to a particular clear state of mind, most of your thoughts and perceptions will automatically couple with the pineal center's ability to lock-onto different perceived things. This will, in turn, tend to cause different reactions because the "locking-onto" action (which you might not even know you are doing) opens a connection and actually projects a bit of energy. And, all while this is happening, there will also tend to be a bit of an imbalancing of internal resources.

 

A breath oriented meditation practice should probably be something you focus on. Not as a quick-fix exercise to resolve particular energy problems (though it can, if you have read the satipatthana sutra / its explanations it mentions that breath can be used to smooth over different apparent disturbances in the body's energy). It is difficult to transition into, though. Because, to do it, you need the MCO to be working well on its own. If you have been messing it up with specific intention-based exercises, this will have a two-fold problem of energetic disturbances made by your intent and a mental habit of checking in on things (which will, again, cause the aforementioned disturbances to resurface). 

 

If you can get to a point where your channels are pretty open and you are cleansed of a mental habit related to checking-in on different sensations, you will be in a clear state where breath can immediately remove and resolve different obstructions that you might otherwise have wasted time and particular exercises trying to resolve. But clarity is key---your attention will need to be mostly internal pretty much all the time. Instead of having your senses meet the world full-on, you will be meeting the world in a way where you are "seeing but not seeing"; "listening but not listening", etc.  It will be like in the early chapters of Taoist Yoga when they advise a particular mentality for subduing the five thieves (senses).

 

With regards to the sun and moon (in general), I have noticed that energy tends to spread out horizontally when the moon is full and it tends to go more vertical when we're near a new moon. However, with the sun having an eclipse recently, its yang influence may have been slightly decreased in recent days. So you might be feeling more of the outwardly expansive/interactive effects of energy.

 

Thanks for the help. I'll read your post later, I'm not in the mood right now. I'm going to go and listen to some music!

[9th]

6 minutes ago, Aletheia said:

 

I don't care how sorry you are or how much you want to try and make me feel bad.

 

The truth is you're a Nietzschean pygmy standing at the end of the "genealogy of morality" rattling the husk of Christian ethics totally oblivious to how stupid you are.

 

Moreover, you don't know anything about the subject at hand so you really shouldn't be commenting in this thread in the first place. What makes it worse for you is your condescending attitude which by rights you have not earned so just amplifies your ineptitude.

 

I'm not here to socialise and if I were it wouldn't be with people like you. Go away and don't leave any petty remarks in my threads again.

 

I don't want to be around anyone that thinks it's okay to talk and behave the way you have been in this thread. So as I said go away and don't reply to my posts again.

 

You have a curiously blind manner of handling yourself as well as a strangely petulant attitude, considering your various claims about yourself and your lofty status.  

 

However, the most simple truth I can share with you is that I truly dont care what you want.  I will continue to do as I please, which may or may not include posting replies to your threads here or anywhere else.

 

If you dont want to be around, you are certainly free to leave and go on your merry little way.  Otherwise - just sit there and deal with it.

[Aletheia]

3 minutes ago, 9th said:

 

You have a curiously blind manner of handling yourself as well as a strangely petulant attitude, considering your various claims about yourself and your lofty status.  

 

However, the most simple truth I can share with you is that I truly dont care what you want.  I will continue to do as I please, which may or may not include posting replies to your threads here or anywhere else.

 

If you dont want to be around, you are certainly free to leave and go on your merry little way.  Otherwise - just sit there and deal with it.

 

Okay well we'll see which side the admin comes down on. Because this is a very serious issue for me and I don't take too kindly to your not caring about my personal concerns.

 

If the admin are happy to have people like you posting horrible unsympathetic replies in my threads requesting help then I don't want anything more to do with the place. It's that simple for me.

[9th]

Just now, Aletheia said:

 

Okay well we'll see which side the admin comes down on. Because this is a very serious issue for me and I don't take too kindly to your not caring about my personal concerns.

 

If the admin are happy to have people like you posting horrible unsympathetic replies in my threads requesting help then I don't want anything more to do with the place. It's that simple for me.

 

 

Great news!  Im looking forward to that.

[Aletheia]

1 hour ago, Apeiron&Peiron said:

Because, to do it, you need the MCO to be working well on its own.

 

I do a very subtle MCO when I start my moving yin/yang and feel it working fine. At the top I feel the energy above my head and then I feel it going down the front.

 

But I just do inhale up the back and then exhale down the front. But I don't really think about it and as I said I feel it gathering during the in breath above my head and then it goes down the front.

 

I just think because I've been meditating the 3rd eye is beginning to fill up. I mean right now my DT is warm and my head is magnetic at the back around the sides and down my face, mostly at the bridge of my nose atm..

Edited August 23, 2017 by Aletheia

[Aletheia]

1 hour ago, Apeiron&Peiron said:

However, with the sun having an eclipse recently, its yang influence may have been slightly decreased in recent days. So you might be feeling more of the outwardly expansive/interactive effects of energy.

 

Maybe, I'll see over the coming days I suppose. I might go and mediate now for a bit and just concentrate on nothing.

 

I need to start reading my books. I've got loads of great books, some Eva Wong ones, Master Nan and Bodri, that "Foundations" book, Taoist Yoga, I even got that other white cover one with the picture of the stuff above the head, I can't remember the name right now.

 

I might read measuring meditation by Bodri. I got some of the Alan Johnson books too or whatever his name is.

Edited August 23, 2017 by Aletheia

[Aletheia]

I have no idea what all those Chinese classical texts are talking about though. So that's a bit of a problem!

[Kar3n]

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[dawei]

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Personalities as they are, are sometimes not going to sound so sympathetic, and actually one might encounter it more so on such a forum like this, where a kind of 'tough love' (suck it up) gets tossed around at times.   

 

I've said to staff that being on staff is a form of cultivate because a lot of our personal buttons will get pushed while we aim to maintain forum decorum and rules.   Simply by participating, members may realize this too.

 

Let's try to stay on topic.

 

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[Aletheia]

40 minutes ago, dawei said:

~~~ ADMIN COMMENT ~~~

 

Folks have some freedom of expression on this forum as long as they are respectful of others and stay within the rules.  But, we do let lots of stuff slide to allow peer moderator and peer reminders to work some of it out.    Staff really wants to be the last line of defense of the forum rules. 

 

Personalities as they are, are sometimes not going to sound so sympathetic, and actually one might encounter it more so on such a forum like this, where a kind of 'tough love' (suck it up) gets tossed around at times.   

 

I've said to staff that being on staff is a form of cultivate because a lot of our personal buttons will get pushed while we aim to maintain forum decorum and rules.   Simply by participating, members may realize this too.

 

Let's try to stay on topic.

 

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What you are saying is a bit wishy washy to me. If by tough love you are referring to me rather than 9th then I would like a life-time ban. I am a serious philosopher, I am not getting up in the morning and rushing to work to get things done, trying to make money, branding myself on the internet, going out having sex, selling anything, voting, watching TV, bringing up a family, reading the newspapers, I have no phone, I don't drive, I don't go to the movies etc.

 

There are a lot of people here for whom qigong is a mere hobby, something to pass the time and destress from the pressures of life. Whereas for me this is all I do. So when I ask a question I'm not looking for laughs and jokes or trying to be sociable or make friends etc. I am asking a serious question.

 

So if you think it's okay for people to crack jokes in my threads and ultimately write a load of drivel that rather than addresses the topic of the thread only address their egoic sentimental nonsense and for some reason there's some tough love going on and I'm really learning by the experience then I don't think you really understand what it takes to get the 3rd eye open.

 

You know I got the love and base emotions down years ago. That's why I had my kundalini awakening. So if you think some guy here being disrespectful to me is teaching me about immature emotions then you really don't know the first thing about qigong and really what I said about the Problem with the Admins stands.

 

I'll not stand for people like 9th joking around in my threads. So either deal with the problem or ban me.

 

THANKS!

Edited August 23, 2017 by Aletheia

[Kar3n]

2 minutes ago, Aletheia said:

I'll not stand for people like 9th joking around in my threads. So either deal with the problem or ban me.

Then you need to post in your PPD where you can moderate the threads you start if exerting control over how others respond is important to you.

 

It is hard to tell from a my perspective what will offend you. It seems to fluctuate daily.

[Aletheia]

Just now, Kar3n said:

Then you need to post in your PPD where you can moderate the threads you start if exerting control over how others respond is important to you.

 

It is hard to tell from a my perspective what will offend you. It seems to fluctuate daily.

 

Kar3n what comment of his addresses anything worthwhile?

 

What you are promoting in this forum is New Age ultra nihilism rather than the path to immortality. You know there's a difference there, I know it might be very subtle for some but it's there all the same!

[Aletheia]

So perhaps in the future when I might be talking about really advanced practices it's okay for someone to join in with the fun -- something, something moon -- is that how the joke goes.

 

OKAY I JUST GOT THE JOKE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "something, something moon" oh the profundity and my sides they are a splitting from all the fun!

[Kar3n]

2 minutes ago, Aletheia said:

 

Kar3n what comment of his addresses anything worthwhile?

 

What you are promoting in this forum is New Age ultra nihilism rather than the path to immortality. You know there's a difference there, I know it might be very subtle for some but it's there all the same!

My comment is addressing your need for control over others. We have created a PPD for you so that you can control the content. The rest of the forums are off limits in that regard.

 

This is not about me or my views, you have made this all about you and your demands. You are promoting your opinion and you are free to express it, just as everyone else is free to express theirs.

[Aletheia]

something, something moon!

 

WOW brilliant. NOW I'M HAVING SOME FUN HERE RIGHT NOW ON THIS FORUM. HOW DID I MISS IT BEFORE. MY EYES HAVE OPENED AND NOW ALL I SEE IS FUN, PRAISE THE LORD

[Aletheia]

30 minutes ago, Kar3n said:

My comment is addressing your need for control over others. We have created a PPD for you so that you can control the content. The rest of the forums are off limits in that regard.

 

This is not about me or my views, you have made this all about you and your demands. You are promoting your opinion and you are free to express it, just as everyone else is free to express theirs.

 

What about qigong, does that get a look in on this forum, or is it just one great big happy free-for-all where everyone gets their say equally no matter if they might lack experience on the matter being addressed in a thread?

 

Because I'm not trying to control anyone, I'm not looking for power at all. One can not have such obvious defective personality traits and have real energy. I'm not here trying to inflate my ego or make myself sound important. I think I might be a little beyond those things, perhaps.

 

There is not even any common decency in 9th's posts. No need to be an advanced practitioner to see what he's saying is offensive irrelevance.

 

How is what I'm saying mere opinion anyway, rather than truth?

 

This thread is about 6th chakra energy, the moon and being in public with those energies. I would hope only people qualified to answer the question would reply. Why should I not think that, do you really believe these things are some pass time for me?

 

Do you have any idea what it takes to get to the level I'm talking about in this thread and how disconcerting it is for me that people think it's okay to joke around with such important matters and when I point this out I'm told that I'm talking about mere opinions and trying to exert control over other people?

 

If we were in a temple setting and someone were at my level with qi projection healing abilities and an open 3rd eye no one would be allowed to talk to him the way they're allowed to on this forum.

Edited August 23, 2017 by Aletheia

[Brian]

One of my interactions with another Bum (who ended up getting himself banned, actually) was part of the impetus for one of those foundations, BTW.  Long-time Bums may recall the exchange.

 

Edited August 23, 2017 by Brian

[Mudfoot]

In this thread, practitioners of advanced methods have expressed concern when you write about your experiences. 

 

In many traditional systems, those symptoms would be a sign that something have gone awry, not that the practitioner have advanced. 

 

But there are more things to take in consideration. You quote Drew a lot, and claim to follow his teachings. 

 

The way you are describing this could be sincere, it could also be an attempt to make a huge joke at his and the forums expence. 

 

Someone comfortable with scanning you, after your permission, could tell the difference. 

 

But truly, some of your posts do come of like you have emotional issues, adding the big font doesn’t help the situation. 

 

On the other hand, you are complete right. TDB quickly turns nasty, criticism comes quick and hard. 

 

An advice? 

If your practice gives you symptoms and ideas, question the practice. 

That the first thing to do,  always. 

 

[Aletheia]

I don't have time for another of these threads. Either admit there's a problem with this forum and start working toward working it out or ban me. It's that simple.

 

Because right now you are actively alienating advanced practitioners in favour for a social media gathering place for people. 

 

ALCHEMY? NOT EVEN ONCE LOL

 

What you are also missing is you are losing out by side-lining people like me because I am in a position to help people advance. I know what I did to get here and I know where people are falling down too.

 

You know rather than trying to prod me in the right direction and save me from myself why don't you try thinking back to when you healed someone's leg to the extent that it visibly transformed in front of people's eyes, think back to when you had an authentic kundalini experience and remember what the experience was like when you opened your 3rd eye, remember all the times when you looked into the future and saw what was coming...

 

I can do all those things. Can the people trying to help me say the same thing?

 

Perhaps stop for a second and think hang on maybe I'm the fool here.

 

No it's not going to happen and it's really not my loss is it? So you might as well just ban me because I'm not willing to spend any more time wasting my time with these kinds of threads. And if there's not really any real alchemists on this site then really what's the point?

 

JUST BAN. THANKS AND GOODBYE!

 

 

[Kar3n]

36 minutes ago, Aletheia said:

 

What about qigong, does that get a look in on this forum, or is it just one great big happy free-for-all where everyone gets their say equally no matter if they might lack experience on the matter being addressed in a thread?

When you have practiced Qigong for as long as some of the members whom have tried to advise you and you have displayed you have developed beyond your judgmental outbursts, then folks might take you seriously.

 

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Because I'm not trying to control anyone, I'm not looking for power at all. One can not have such obvious defective personality traits and have real energy. I'm not here trying to inflate my ego and make myself sound important.

 

There is not even any common decency in 9th's posts. No need to be an advanced practitioner to see what he's saying is offensive irrelevance.

You continue to be judgmental and defensive. You talk a lot about your ego..

 

And there was so much common decency in your profanity filled reply. You can not demand decorum if you are not willing to abide by the same standards you place on others.

 

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How is what I'm saying mere opinion anyway, rather than truth?

Truth is subjective. The truth you see today might be completely different tomorrow.

 

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This thread is about 6th chakra energy, the moon and being in public with those energies. I would hope only people qualified to answer the question would reply. Why should I not think that, do you really believe these things are some pass time for me?

It seemed to be dipping low to the first and second charkas when you began talking about how you didn't know how to handle breasts and public places. Whether it is a pastime for you is neither here nor there. You've failed over and over again to realize that this is a public forum and staff does not take control over others responses if they are within the rules of the forum. The terms of service implicitly states 

On July 22, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Mal said:

Please remember that we are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message.

You clicked register, acknowledging everything you are railing against. If TDB is not "advanced" enough for you then you should probably find another forum more to you liking.

 

36 minutes ago, Aletheia said:

Do you have any idea what it takes to get to the level I'm talking about in this thread and how disconcerting it is for me that people think it's okay to joke around with such important matters and when I point this out I'm told that I'm talking about mere opinions and trying to exert control over other people?

If you were even close to the level you like to believe you are at or approaching, breasts would not be an issue for you.

 

You have been begging for attention, trying to exercise control over others' posts and touting your yourself for weeks. I am just pointing it out to you and why people respond to you in they way that they do. Take it or leave it.

 

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If we were in a temple setting and someone were at my level with qi projection healing abilities and an open 3rd eye no one would be allowed to talk to him the way they're allowed on this forum.

That is bullshit! When is the last time you were in a temple? Even highly developed individuals act and interact with folks normally, they joke around, laugh and gently poke fun at one another. If someone were to come at them doubting them or refuting their abilities, they would certainly not throw a fit and act out in the manner that you have on these forums. With cultivation, comes control and a greater ability to allow the things happening around us to just happen without interference and demanding folks acknowledge theme for them… clearly not a place you have reached yet, by evidence of your posting habits and constant whining that you are not getting what you need and feel you deserve.

[Aletheia]

I'll take a life-time ban because this thread is now taking up my meditation time and it's just going the same way as all the others. You're all hopelessly deluded and beyond help if I'm honest. Fools and idiots.

 

BAN ME! I DARE YOU. I BET YOU WON'T DO IT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL SECRETLY LOVE SUCKING OFF MY ENERGY.

 

COME ON SHOW ME WHAT YOU'VE GOT PUSSYS LOL LET'S SEE IF YOU'VE GOT IT IN YOU TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS AND BAN ME. I BET YOU CAN'T DO IT...

[Aletheia]

LOOKS LIKE I'M ON THE WAY OUT HERE GUYS GOODBYE!

 

 

#BANME

[Mudfoot]

Why would anybody want to take part of that energy? 

[Mudfoot]

I'm sorry Drew, but this is not a good commercial for your method. 

 

Hope you can get someone more stable to vouch for it in the future. 

[Kar3n]

6 minutes ago, Aletheia said:

I'll take a life-time ban because this thread is now taking up my meditation time and it's just going the same way as all the others. You're all hopelessly deluded and beyond help if I'm honest. Fools and idiots.

 

BAN ME! I DARE YOU. I BET YOU WON'T DO IT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL SECRETLY LOVE SUCKING OFF MY ENERGY.

 

COME ON SHOW ME WHAT YOU'VE GOT PUSSYS LOL LET'S SEE IF YOU'VE GOT IT IN YOU TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS AND BAN ME. I BET YOU CAN'T DO IT...

Look at this highly advanced practitioner!!

 

Full on melt down!!

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