Marblehead Posted October 2, 2017 2 hours ago, C T said: It'd have been a non-issue if the root topic which caused the problem was redirected out of General Discussion when it first appeared, for example, the ppd section would have been the ideal spot to hang the buntings and pop the crackers. Mods would not have to mother anything then. Even as the course of the thread began to show signs of conflict, it was permitted to stay where it was, and some quarter might want to share some of the responsibility for the seeming escalation instead of the mere highlighting of how members ought to conduct themselves better in such situations. Where grounds are appropriately tended, the question of weeds does not arise. The Mods are caught between a rock and a hard spot here. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Most members have wanted less Mods interference. So they have been trying to allow the members to work out their own problems. When should a discussion be made a blog? Without discussion there will be no exchange of ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Marblehead said: The Mods are caught between a rock and a hard spot here. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Most members have wanted less Mods interference. So they have been trying to allow the members to work out their own problems. When should a discussion be made a blog? Without discussion there will be no exchange of ideas. Let sleeping dogs ... bite you unexpectedly in the butt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted October 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Apech said: Let sleeping dogs ... bite you unexpectedly in the butt. The morale of that story is to not mess with sleeping dogs. The Japanese messed with a sleeping tiger and we all know what they got. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, thelerner said: Ah, the old 'he poked me' gambit. No he didn't, he disagreed with you and it got emotional and angry. Disagreed with me ? wow ! If I called you a Nazi pushing white Aryan supremacy ... along with all that it implies , would you then call it a disagreement and 'suck it up' and walk away ? Maybe you would ? Quote Well listen up- We're not your mother. Here's the solution. Suck it up. Gain a little maturity. Maybe walk away, maybe de-escalate by taking the high road and remaining calm, maybe ignore the whole stupid thread for a while. Or maybe I become an a - hole and start dumping similar shit on people here then expect them to act as you suggest ? Quote In general those who are really crazy and angry get banned. ... and he did ! He got banned ..... after he continued and got worse and worse , after getting away with what he did . If he didn't end up banned, I would not feel justified in my opinion of him ! And you still telling me I should have sucked it up ... after you had to ban him . Quote The rest of you, Mature. Be polite or state your peace and walk away. Or engage in debate, civilly. Don't get personal or takes things personally. No one wins internet battles because most often the other side isn't even reading your long researched well thought out posts. They just want to piss you off. Realize that and win by leaving the table. I won , he was made to leave the table, by you guys, and rightly so ... well done , eventually . The guy was an arse , end of story . Edited October 2, 2017 by Nungali 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 2, 2017 15 hours ago, Apech said: Perfect! if I may say so. But does not apply to OP. Don't you mean puurrrrfect ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 2, 2017 11 hours ago, Marblehead said: You are such a pacifist! Is he ? I will reserve my judgement until he tries to post on a subject he finds interesting and has researched and I come along and call him a Nazi , insult him and meet every post he makes with similar rubbish , large point bolded caps that take up half a page type, misquotes laughing and the whole range of crap, and have other posters come in and say how crap what I am doing is but I still hound him . and if he complains say ';suck it up' and don't give any back . I can see you doing that Marbles As you probably know , its easy to advise others to be a pacifist . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted October 2, 2017 29 minutes ago, Nungali said: As you probably know , its easy to advise others to be a pacifist . Keep in mind, I do not nor have I ever recommended to anyone to be a Pacifist. Stand your ground. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Nungali said: Disagreed with me ? wow ! If I called you a Nazi pushing white Aryan supremacy ... along with all that it implies , would you then call it a disagreement and 'suck it up' and walk away ? Maybe you would ? First of all, my comments weren't aimed exclusively at you. Maybe you're referring to a July thread with Yinyangisvoid? He has his good points but can be pretty long winded, manic and has gotten several suspensions and worse. I'm pretty sure he's called me a Nazi, a sheep, sperm something.. Instead of arguing, the remarks were reported and I moved on, ignoring him, happily. Why, cause it doesn't make sense to argue with angry nuts. It really doesn't, though again Yinyang has some powerful good points along with.. baggage. When dealing with someone like that, don't drop down to there level. Be mature. Getting into a flame war with the guy is pointless. There is no winning. These days learning to deal with internet trolling is taught in high school and grammar school. And lesson one is- there are those who are nasty and want attention. Don't give it to them. Better to report them and either leave it alone or keep your tone civil, which makes them look even worse. Limit engagement though. We keep a thread on reported members, when they pile up, take action. Sometimes take action immediately but some threads are so tangled its hard to assign blame to just one party, instead it tends to cancel each other. If you re-read my post you'll notice it mentions other strategies too beyond suck it up, walk away. Like keep it civil, take the high road, in other words, disagree and continue the discussion without playing their game. Be Mature. 1 hour ago, Nungali said: Or maybe I become an a - hole and start dumping similar shit on people here then expect them to act as you suggest ? You can try that route, but it'll get you banned. If you enjoy the site. Ignore the trolls, don't become one. Or as I've stated above continue to argue but keep it higher minded, civil.. don't swear, get personal; try to avoid personal insults- best done by going after ideas instead of people. It can be done. Your idea of shit for shit, doesn't get you anywhere, its just fills the site with shit. Ultimately shitters get flushed. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 3, 2017 23 hours ago, Marblehead said: Keep in mind, I do not nor have I ever recommended to anyone to be a Pacifist. Stand your ground. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted October 5, 2017 On 01/10/2017 at 4:51 PM, Marblehead said: Yeah, but then, you are looking for idealism. Such a thing has never existed. People have their reasons, justifiable or not. The English still don't like the French and the French still don't like the Germans. Actually... we dislike the English way more than the Germans ! But since we put a Normand king to their throne and they adopted half of our vocabulary we tolerate them in an isolated manner in our vicinity. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, CloudHands said: Actually... we dislike the English way more than the Germans ! But since we put a Normand king to their throne and they adopted half of our vocabulary we tolerate them in an isolated manner in our vicinity. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, CloudHands said: Actually... we dislike the English way more than the Germans ! But since we put a Normand king to their throne and they adopted half of our vocabulary we tolerate them in an isolated manner in our vicinity. Ah but the Normans were from Norse land and not Frankish at all - and the Franks were germanic anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted October 5, 2017 6 hours ago, Apech said: Ah but the Normans were from Norse land and not Frankish at all - and the Franks were germanic anyway. A this time "Frank" Normans were ruled by the frank king and mixed with Frank since several generations already ! It's way more complicated if we start with multiple heritages, which one ? Gaulish ? Frank ? Celtic ? Arab ? Norman ? etc... Long story made short : Jus Soli. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, CloudHands said: A this time "Frank" Normans were ruled by the frank king and mixed with Frank since several generations already ! It's way more complicated if we start with multiple heritages, which one ? Gaulish ? Frank ? Celtic ? Arab ? Norman ? etc... Long story made short : Jus Soli. Here you are: 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted October 5, 2017 37 minutes ago, Apech said: Here you are The more interesting information of this map is the confirmation that Arab and Jewish people are of the same subgenre. Otherwise I'm curious about when and what population constitutes the samples because there are quite a few sub-Saharian dudes in Europe. Seems to be already out-dated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted October 5, 2017 Just now, CloudHands said: The more interesting information of this map is the confirmation that Arab and Jewish people are of the same subgenre. Otherwise I'm curious about when and what population constitutes the samples because there are quite a few sub-Saharian dudes in Europe. Seems to be already out-dated. It's from the brilliant maps site - no idea about the sampling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted October 5, 2017 http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/phylogenetic_trees_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml to go further If someone is able to recognize himself in a few numbers or letters... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted October 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, CloudHands said: http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/phylogenetic_trees_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml to go further If someone is able to recognize himself in a few numbers or letters... I think I took a wrong turn at Z35447 and ended up as a neanderthal. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted October 5, 2017 Here you are http://www.eupedia.com/europe/neanderthal_facts_and_myths.shtml Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Apech said: I think I took a wrong turn at Z35447 and ended up as a neanderthal. But what Nationality Neanderthal ? A Polish one or an Austrian one ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Nungali said: But what Nationality Neanderthal ? A Polish one or an Austrian one ? I'm a kind of internationalist Neanderthal - left leaning with tribalist tendencies but in favour of free trade in flint and mammoth meat. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted October 6, 2017 Being a red head... (recovering), I retain VIP access to all events Neanderthal. We should talk... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cold Posted October 6, 2017 Labels, and more labels..... like badges I don't need no stinking labels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted October 6, 2017 1 hour ago, silent thunder said: Being a red head... (recovering), I retain VIP access to all events Neanderthal. We should talk... We could liaise at the Joint Inter-Hominid Species (Equality and Diversity) Committee workshop which is scheduled for 39,000 BC. Gibraltar Cave Complex Suite. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted October 6, 2017 Don't forget to invite Denis-over . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites