Wun Yuen Gong Posted June 7, 2008 Portcraig, So what if others start loosing there body and disappearing with Kunlun practice how will they stop it without the special practice? 5 months is not long at all and makes me more wanting to do this for the experience! Did this other guy do Red Phoenix with Kunlun? WYG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qijack Posted June 7, 2008 But no one from here has actually seen this disapearing arm trick right? only stories? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Aetherous Posted June 7, 2008 I'm getting what I consider advanced results with one transmission. Each day it gets greater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qijack Posted June 7, 2008 If someone from here has had the opportunity to witness this i would be willing to very very slightly beleive it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xienkula1 Posted June 7, 2008 If someone from here has had the opportunity to witness this i would be willing to very very slightly beleive it Why is everyone so eager to escape in a puff of smoke or a pan flash into never-never land, when the real work is living here and now? I include myself in this...but sheesh...how much do we hate being here and how much do we want to avoid reality? I like what Svoboda's Guru said to him "Robby, you'd better learn to live with reality, or else reality will come and live with you" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
satyagraha Posted June 7, 2008 Hey portcraig, who were you? i was there with Jazz and topflight and then retreated to my seat in the back! my name is Clinton, by the way. I hope we meet tommorow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mYTHmAKER Posted June 7, 2008 Why is everyone so eager to escape in a puff of smoke or a pan flash into never-never land, when the real work is living here and now? I include myself in this...but sheesh...how much do we hate being here and how much do we want to avoid reality? I like what Svoboda's Guru said to him "Robby, you'd better learn to live with reality, or else reality will come and live with you" Well said. It is my belief- experience that the more I am in my body and the more i am grounded the more I am able to be present in the present. The more I am in my body the more expansive i become and the more I connect to everything. I was give this form to experience life not to escape it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Wun Yuen Gong Posted June 8, 2008 Not not mention becoming light what happens when you become light , what do you feel if u feel, what do you see if u can see and what is after we leave our lives? By leaving now without death is that a better way to go or is it better on the otherside? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Xienkula1 Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) The more I am in my body the more expansive i become and the more I connect to everything. I was give this form to experience life not to escape it. Exactly, perhaps there is a reason for our lives we don't consciously know, and which can best be known through experiencing, which is gained best through presence. We are constantly disappearing, reappearing, waking, sleeping, living, dying...we just aren't normally aware of the process. Edited June 8, 2008 by Xienkula1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted June 8, 2008 Hi Scotty. By "advanced results" I was referring to the previous posts about disappearing... are you disappearing? Beaming up? Or what?! Tell, dude! Definitely beaming up! Or down? But no I don't disappear. My mind has a few times with red phoenix practice, but I guess that's not as advanced of a thing as having your arm disappear? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portcraig Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) Golden Dragon body is similar to Rainbow body from what Max has said. In Rainbow body they have achieved their enlightenment and disappeared from this plane and they leave behind hair and fingernails, etc. In Golden Dragon body they have the option to remain on this plane if they chose. The disappearing part is just a sign that someone has achieved this enlightenment. They are not trying to escape reality. They have mastered this world. They can then chose if they want to remain here to help other people. Edited June 8, 2008 by portcraig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xienkula1 Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) The disappearing part is just a sign that someone has achieved this enlightenment. They are not trying to escape reality. Ok. But don't you think what often happens is we might want to avoid dealing with death, or abhiniveshaha (desire to cling to life) (and I don't blame anyone for it, it's nearly impossible not to. ) Then we could mask it at the superficial conscious level, say it's not that, we just want total enlightenment, only that! We are all very noble cultivators. but hmm if I just do this practice then I have a exalted meal ticket out of this hell hole when the crap hits the fan, HAHA. Of course with this selfish motivation, it could never work. Opening the gate requires liberation...yet most of those who have reached that state, didn't get out with their body. In fact even in Rainbow body, they don't really take their body...but their body just rapidly dissolves...it is still a kind of death in that sense. Ramalinga says the only way out of here like that is via supreme rare compassion, which would seem to involve facing and embracing the here and now. And no matter what hidous face reality shows asking will you love me like this? Edited June 8, 2008 by Xienkula1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mYTHmAKER Posted June 8, 2008 Yes, gotcha on that one, mYTHmAKER, and I think the disapearing thing is about achieving transmutation of base matter. It is an alchemical goal that a lot of us have had in mind for a long time. It's the alchemy of it which is the achievement, not the ability to 'escape'. It's the penetration of the illusion.. The more present one is the better to achieve the alchemical goal of being fully alive, compassionate, and connected to the source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 8, 2008 Why is everyone so eager to escape in a puff of smoke or a pan flash into never-never land, when the real work is living here and now? I include myself in this...but sheesh...how much do we hate being here and how much do we want to avoid reality? I like what Svoboda's Guru said to him "Robby, you'd better learn to live with reality, or else reality will come and live with you" Exactly the real game begins being here now and being really intune with mother earth and the cosmos in to one package and still be able to handle living normal situations.... You do not want to be drawing attention in todays society with arms dissappearing etc..... Guess what happened the last bloke that demosntrated that knd of stuff....he ended up on a cross with nails in him ... Better to be Ninja like. Yeah I have seen some awesome siddhis on display and also have done my fair share of things but I prefer to be a dad and take my kids to soccer and work and live a normal life as well as do my daily work & integrate my spiritual practices to that. Before enlightenment chop wood carry water after enlightenment....chop wood carry water. Peace Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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orb Posted June 8, 2008 The more present one is the better to achieve the alchemical goal of being fully alive, compassionate, and connected to the source. Thx for keeping your feet on the ground, mythmaker. I couldn't agree more. Stay in your body, cause your body is yours just like your mind and your soul, so feel it and feel everything around you at the same time, maximize your feelings. Be present, be here, be now, stop dreaming and keep it real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 8, 2008 Thx for keeping your feet on the ground, mythmaker. I couldn't agree more. Stay in your body, cause your body is yours just like your mind and your soul, so feel it and feel everything around you at the same time, maximize your feelings. Be present, be here, be now, stop dreaming and keep it real. Exactly! There is a way to be right where you are "Light" or any element force. the more you know about your body the more control you have and the more you can actually do. Peace Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 8, 2008 Thx for keeping your feet on the ground, mythmaker. I couldn't agree more. Stay in your body, cause your body is yours just like your mind and your soul, so feel it and feel everything around you at the same time, maximize your feelings. Be present, be here, be now, stop dreaming and keep it real. Exactly! There is a way to be right where you are "Light" or any element force. the more you know about your body the more control you have and the more you can actually do. Peace Santiago Thx for keeping your feet on the ground, mythmaker. I couldn't agree more. Stay in your body, cause your body is yours just like your mind and your soul, so feel it and feel everything around you at the same time, maximize your feelings. Be present, be here, be now, stop dreaming and keep it real. Exactly! There is a way to be right where you are "Light" or any element force. the more you know about your body the more control you have and the more you can actually do. Peace Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest winpro07 Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) Tension between groups, people, teachers etc is the beginning of external alchemical process that if not resisted leads to evolution, and If resisted, revolution begins. Those in resistance have most to lose. What losses incur is a matter of choice. We are all one body, and meant to evolve as One. We can only achieve our great evolution in being genuinely, and completely accepting of one another... Great compassion at the least, or better still Great love for all Humanity is where we draw the line between what we know ours selves to be, and what we are meant to become. Who is brave enough to accept such responsibility? I believe the first step is forgiveness then love Then bliss I ask forgiveness for my great intolerance Edited June 8, 2008 by winpro07 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest winpro07 Posted June 8, 2008 From within my own awakening. In a dream last night i saw Max, and many others. In the dream there was a computer on a desk, and on the screen was the name of one who attained golden dragon body. Max spoke in the dream. My heart was healed. I met Kan. He has Great compassion. It was truley an honor to meet him, I would not want to see him disapear On intolerance, and hatred. Intolerance makes the heart weak because no emotion can get in from those around us. We get weak from it because we don't get the food of the soul -Love. Intolerance forces lying, and hatred to happen. Perfect alchemy: Love, Familly, Community Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 8, 2008 From within my own awakening. In a dream last night i saw Max, and many others. In the dream there was a computer on a desk, and on the screen was the name of one who attained golden dragon body. Max spoke in the dream. My heart was healed. I met Kan. He has Great compassion. It was truley an honor to meet him, I would not want to see him disapear On intolerance, and hatred. Intolerance makes the heart weak because no emotion can get in from those around us. We get weak from it because we don't get the food of the soul -Love. Intolerance forces lying, and hatred to happen. Perfect alchemy: Love, Familly, Community Nice Dream I will share something with you something. Once with Glenn we did some void meditations and we made heads disappear in front of group of people. now we where taught that is just dissolving into void into a Dzogchen or Mushin State. I remember both Glenn and I did it and there where a few other in room who watched. I can not say whether it relates to Kun lun or not cause i do not train Max's method but the effect of what we did is very real. It also happens to folks who practice a lot of Chod ritual & higher up Mandala Practices. Possibilities are endless. And the More in tune you are with Nature the better the flow. Peace Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
