CloudHands Posted October 31, 2017 Leds emit is actually pure blue light through a layer of phosphor which produce a wider light spectrum. Has that thin layer a durability comparable to the chip ? I hardly find information about that. More generally, what do you think about LEDs ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted October 31, 2017 I have a few LEDs around the place, mostly outside. Very energy efficient. Mine are all 12VDC. I'm not yet impressed with the 120VAC LEDs.   1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kar3n Posted October 31, 2017 I am unimpressed with the claim that they last for years. It is not the case in my house. Â On a side note, when I saw the title of the topic my first thought was, "Oh Lord, not another mo pai thread!" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted October 31, 2017 46 minutes ago, Kar3n said: I am unimpressed with the claim that they last for years. It is not the case in my house. Â On a side note, when I saw the title of the topic my first thought was, "Oh Lord, not another mo pai thread!" Â John Chan did light up leds too ?! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted October 31, 2017 Here is the "John Chang" version: Â https://www.amazon.com/Copernicus-Human-Powered-Light-Bulb/dp/B001EVK3F6 Â Â Â Â Â -VonKrankenhaus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted November 1, 2017 My concern towards the durability of the phosphor layer is that blue light is harmful to the skin and the eyes and modify the circadian rhythm. Blue is a frequency (450−495 nm), it gives your body an information. Phosphor helps providing a wider spectrum yet a blue dominance remain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode#/media/File:White_LED.png  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb#/media/File:Spectral_power_distribution_of_a_25_W_incandescent_light_bulb.png  I have been testing them lately and once you put attention on it and compare different kinds of lamps I feel light coming from LEDs cold and uncomfortable. The 2700 kelvins feels OK as a coloration but it doesn't provide a warm feeling as light generally provides. When you receive light from the sun, you receive light and heat. Wood fire too, a candle too. With these old bulbs too. Not with leds : the minimal heat coming from a led is not from a lighting process but induced by a driver transforming electricity.  Maybe it's just because I'm used to heat dissipation maybe it's because I associate blue with death but I have definitely a preference for the incandescent lights. I'm ok to use them but not anywhere anytime... Not in my room, not close range and certainly not before sleeping. Now about long term health effects, psychological effects, as we are testers nobody knows. Probably nothing critical for health, just another slight separation from nature.   1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted November 1, 2017 This is sunlight spectrum a sea level. Â https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Spectrum_of_Sunlight_en.svg 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted November 1, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2470513/Lights-effect-sleep-suggested-new-research.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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cheya Posted November 1, 2017 Hey CloudHands, I've studied the health effects of light quite a bit, and that article from the Daily Mail is an excellent summary of the most important facts and precautions. Thank you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted November 1, 2017 You're very welcome Cheya 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites