Main Stream Media

[windwalker]

 

[dawei]

I thought this might be interesting enough on its own...  so split it out.

[ralis]

34 minutes ago, windwalker said:

 

 

But, your version i.e, Breitbart, Black Pigeon, and Stephen Molyneux are based entirely on factual evidence without any hint of propaganda whatsoever? I suspect there are a few here that will agree with this one. I am not one of those.

 

PragerU is owned by Dennis Prager a right wing Neocon in which the site reflects his views.

Edited November 6, 2017 by ralis

[dawei]

There is some truth to it... media bias has always existed but it is much stronger, IMO.    Not just sticking to Trump... one website has yet to publish a single story about the Weinstein issue... and several won't really cover the Hillary-Russian-Uranium issue that much.

 

There is a picking and choosing what they want to cover and it comes with so much opinion that it is not really news reporting on some level.   

 

I used to like CNN but just can't watch it anymore.   JMO.

 

 

[Marblehead]

Yes, it is getting worse.  Everyone seems to have an agenda and the truth doesn't matter.

 

[windwalker]

People talk about it getting worse but is it not just  the result of having free selection.  

 

And allowing people to find things that best fits their experience in the world. 

 

The mainstream media is not free never has been.  The main difference is now there  is choice.  Of course there are extreme views on either side, that can be openly viewed and debated.

 

To me the main danger is the mainstream media which claims to be unbiased when it has been shown over and over that it is biased.

 

BTW I had thought I posted this under the Trump, thread was it moved?

 

Edited November 6, 2017 by windwalker

[cold]

17 minutes ago, windwalker said:

People talk about it getting worse but is it not just  the result of having free selection.  

 

And allowing people to find things that best fits their experience in the world. 

 

The mainstream media is not free never has been.  The main difference is now there  is choice.  Of course there are extreme views on either side, that can be openly viewed and debated.

 

To me the main danger is the mainstream media which claims to be unbiased when it has been shown over and over that it is biased.

 

BTW I had thought I posted this under the Trump, thread was it moved?

 

 

I referred to that as an optimal illusion in a different thread ...

It began when? "this allowing people to find things that best" validate or "fits their unique experience in the world.

[windwalker]

6 minutes ago, cold said:

 

I referred to that as an optimal illusion in a different thread ...

It began when? "this allowing people to find things that best" validate or "fits their unique experience in the world.

 

And of course the illusion is that their views are not correct the ones presented   to them are. 

 

Do not people select all things that validate their views.

 

Some here as I can no longer watch CNN.  Why is this, is it an optimal illusion that it is no longer news.

[cold]

5 minutes ago, windwalker said:

 

And of course the illusion is that their views are not correct the ones presented   to them are. 

 

Do not people select all things that validate their views.

 

Some here as I can no longer watch CNN.  Why is this, is it an optimal illusion that it is no longer news.

 

Choice is yours.

Feed the peace or feed the discord both inside and outside.

Placebo effect

 

Row, row, your boat gently down the stream...

see a pair of docks tired ready for rest

where to put in, to tie into for the night?

 

Where to shelter in comfort the dock to the left?

or maybe the one dead ahead,

oh wait the right one ... is the right correct ?

 

Oh my ...

 

[Lost in Translation]

13 hours ago, ralis said:

PragerU is owned by Dennis Prager a right wing Neocon in which the site reflects his views.

 

Dennis Prager is a highly intelligent, conscientious, and moral conservative. I have followed his radio show since 2009 and have read many of his articles and books. He is a very good man.

[windwalker]

13 hours ago, dawei said:

I thought this might be interesting enough on its own...  so split it out.

 

got it, thought I it posted in the Trump thread.

 

 

[windwalker]

7 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said:

 

Dennis Prager is a highly intelligent, conscientious, and moral conservative. I have followed his radio show since 2009 and have read many of his articles and books. He is a very good man.

 

When they cant factually dispute the argument attack the person who's presented it.

Its a time worn tactic gets old but expected.

[windwalker]

The narrative is that white supremacist groups are spreading, put out by the main steam media.

The real question of why is never asked or addressed.

 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2017 by windwalker

[Lost in Translation]

I realized the partisan bias of the media in 2009. They spend 8 years absolutely castigating President Bush in the most crass ways. Then they spend 8 years apologizing for and fawning after President Obama. Now they are back to terrorizing President Trump.

 

Truth is today's media are nihilists at best and marxists at worst. They are nit to be trusted.

[windwalker]

13 hours ago, ralis said:

But, your version i.e, Breitbart, Black Pigeon, and Stephen Molyneux are based entirely on factual evidence without any hint of propaganda whatsoever?

 

 

Dispute the facts as they portray them, show where they are wrong.

They are putting out a view point based on factual events and do not claim to be news

ie with out a bias that the news agencies have but claim not to. 

 

I use and view a number of sites to understand different points of view.

In this day and age, there is no one site IMO that can give a complete picture of whats going on.

[windwalker]

The US holds its vaunted "free" press as an example to the world.

The rest of the world looks and understands whats going on and just watches in amusement.

 

People in the US are starting to wake up seeking other media in which to find out whats going on

whats called the main stream news is fighting back,,,,like it always has...

 

This time its different...Media itself has come of age....

 

Countries like China, do  understand this and seek to control it

for what they call social stability.    

 

[windwalker]

"To our great 'shock', in court arguments Fusion did not deny making payments to journalists but simply cited First Amendment protection and confidentiality.

 

“It is contrived to substitute for the ridiculous notion that Intervenor [the House committee] can demand documents in an overbroad subpoena from a third party and not explain what it is looking for or why,” said a memorandum filed by Fusion’s law firm, Zuckerman Spaeder LLP, for U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan.
 
“And they are not pertinent, as they are not related to Russia or Donald Trump,” Fusion argues. “In attempting to justify the overbroad subpoena earlier, Intervenor could have, but of course did not, argue the relevance to its inquiry of any such payments.”
 
In the court battle with Mr. Nunes, Fusion has likened itself to a group of journalists with all associated rights. Its founders include former Wall Street Journal reporters Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch.

All of which again raises the very obvious question of why a Special Prosecutor was required to investigate the Trump campaign on nothing more than a series of rumors while no such Special Prosecutor seems to be necessary to investigate the Hillary campaign even after her own general counsel admitted to the same "crimes" of which Trump was accused?"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-06/intel-committee-demands-fusion-gps-bank-records-suspects-journalists-paid-spread-rus

 

This could be in the Trump thread or here.  Just looking at this one has to shake their head.

 

" they are not pertinent, as they are not related to Russia or Donald Trump,” Fusion argues"

 

Funny how it changes depending on who is being investigated,  where is the main stream press, the "free" press

that the US always talks about. 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2017 by windwalker

[Marblehead]

If you are looking for truth you are looing in the wrong place.  You see only what the government and media want you to see.  The truth is normally items of "National Security" and will never be seen.

 

[windwalker]

36 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

If you are looking for truth you are looing in the wrong place.  You see only what the government and media want you to see.  The truth is normally items of "National Security" and will never be seen.

 

 

Not looking for anything 

only pointing out whats happening as the ship is sinking. 

The press we are told is supposed to function as a the foil of the people helping the people to see what their gov was doing in their name.

 

Unfortunately the not free press has become part of what its supposed to watch.

Fortunately, the media has matured to a point where different sources can be accessed for those seeking to understand whats going on, and why.

 

Team Trump, the unofficial 3rd party is helping to cast a light on this...its been going on for to long,,,, 

[Lost in Translation]

10 hours ago, windwalker said:

This time its different...Media itself has come of age....

 

Keep in mind that the media are overwhelmingly Leftists. They are emotion based. Idealists.

 

In 2016 they, for the first time in my lifetime, believed they were realistically on the cusp of achieving permanent, socialist paradise in the US. So what did they do? They abandoned all pretense of neutrality and went full on in their support of Clinton and hatred of Trump. It was not about individuals. It never has been. It was pure party politics.

 

Then they lost. Then they freaked out. Now they resist. It's an emotional temper tantrum.

 

Eventually they will wear down the population. It's already happening in large measure on college campuses. It's already happening in Silicon Valley and in other Progressive corporations. Barring something really big happening, they will win. That is why it is best to turn focus internally. Cultivate virtue in yourself. Raise the collective energy in subtle ways. Gross and overt actions are not the way.

 

Man, it really hate to type this. But I gotta call it as I see it.

Edited November 7, 2017 by Lost in Translation
Edited to fix spelling

[Marblehead]

9 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said:

Then they lost. Then they freaked out. Now they resist. It's an emotional temper tantrum.

 

 

Sounds like a three year old child.

 

[dawei]

On 11/6/2017 at 5:51 PM, windwalker said:

People talk about it getting worse but is it not just  the result of having free selection.  

 

And allowing people to find things that best fits their experience in the world. 

 

The mainstream media is not free never has been.  The main difference is now there  is choice.  Of course there are extreme views on either side, that can be openly viewed and debated.

 

To me the main danger is the mainstream media which claims to be unbiased when it has been shown over and over that it is biased.

 

BTW I had thought I posted this under the Trump, thread was it moved?

 

 

Yes, I split it out as the MSM seems a topic of interesting on some level.   And agree with the bolded.  

[dawei]

On 11/6/2017 at 6:26 PM, windwalker said:

 

And of course the illusion is that their views are not correct the ones presented   to them are. 

 

Do not people select all things that validate their views.

 

Some here as I can no longer watch CNN.  Why is this, is it an optimal illusion that it is no longer news.

 

My previous post really gives that answer...  they are so biased and intentional in skewing facts so as to portray there is a problem when none exists... Take Trumps feeding the fish issue... CNN edited the clip to make it look like Trump dumped his fish food when the Japanese simply put a little bit in.  The fact is,  the counterpart dumped his fish food in and THEN Trump did the same.

 

That is past bias and past fake news.  That is reprehensible for a news organization to so blatantly alter what truly happened.   JMO.

[dawei]

On 11/7/2017 at 8:22 AM, windwalker said:

Team Trump, the unofficial 3rd party is helping to cast a light on this...its been going on for to long,,,, 

 

I think this is the crux of everything we see...  As has been mentioned by others... politicians lie; news outlets fudge stories; the spin guys just spin the hamster wheel.  This has gone on for a very long time.

 

But what is different is simply that those folks doing as such have been exposed with a very glaring light and it has now kind of caused a molecular level vibration of insanity in them.   The insane reaction at election night and which continues with cries of impeaching to killing the president is sanity gone wild...  The crazy side has had the veil pulled away to reveal a side that was hidden.

 

All this talk of the 'american boy next door' who one day massacres people.  They are now everywhere emerging with an emotional response they don't yet know how to get control of again.   And they seem to be the media, entertainers and sports folks for the most part... Their happy little bubble of existence was popped.

 

It seems to me a good lesson in really learning more about yourself.  I'm unfazed by it all... I've not ever been fazed by who is president... I still eat and sleep each day.  I don't have time to give any energy to meaningless protests.   I come to TDB for news updates

 

 

 

[Lost in Translation]

5 hours ago, dawei said:

I come to TDB for news updates

 

Coming up at 11:

 

Daoist gives birth to energy body then loses it when it wanders off;

 

Buddhist realizes that Buddha's teachings are also void; 

 

More evidence of Trump's collusion with Russia;

 

And sports!