Vajra Fist Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Has anyone tried this meditation? Apparently it's a purification method in hatha yoga but I can't help but notice its similarity to first stage of zhine Dzogchen meditations. http://yogawithsubhash.com/2012/04/03/trataka-candle-gazing-cleansing-technique/ Edited January 19, 2018 by Vajra Fist 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted January 19, 2018 I practice zhiné and it is indeed very similar to the description of trataka. I use the Tibetan letter A rather than a candle. It's an extremely effective method of developing concentration and developing a direct understanding of the distinction between the mind and the mind's nature. In Dzogchen, zhiné is used to introduce the student to the nature of mind. Any object will do but some are probably more conducive to practice than others. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajra Fist Posted January 21, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 11:55 PM, steve said: Any object will do but some are probably more conducive to practice than others. Would you say a candle was as conducive as the Tibetan letter A? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted January 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Vajra Fist said: Would you say a candle was as conducive as the Tibetan letter A? In general, I would say yes, although I think it could vary a bit from individual to individual. I've been taught that ཨ does not have any particular significance in the context of the practice, it is just a simple, neutral and familiar object. I suspect, however, that ཨ was selected over the rest of the Tibetan alphabet because it represents the empty aspect of the nature of mind - just a guess. The important thing is that the object of focus is easy to stay focused on, not too big and not too small. Also, the object should not be very stimulating in terms of thought, aversion, desire, visual effects, and so forth. It is simply a focal point for stabilizing the attention so that we can observe the mind and recognize the distinction between the discursive mind and its essential nature. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MBZ Posted January 23, 2018 I’m curious if it has any of the health benefits of sun gazing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joolian Posted January 23, 2018 That's also what I am curious about. Also I have heard candle meditation could heal shortsightedness, so I think I will try that out some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted January 23, 2018 6 hours ago, MBZ said: I’m curious if it has any of the health benefits of sun gazing? I'm not aware of any specific health benefits. In my tradition it's used to help us recognize the essence of mind and how all experience arises from that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmeraldHead Posted January 23, 2018 6 hours ago, MBZ said: I’m curious if it has any of the health benefits of sun gazing? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s1va Posted January 27, 2018 Trataka is an advanced and powerful practice that is part of Kundaluni Tantra and some schools of Kriya yoga. Yes, the foundation of the practice may be from Hatha yoga. This practice is normally undertaken to stimulate and open the 3rd eye or Ajna chakra. Besides aiding in the opening of 3rd eye, it is described to have various other benefits including health. Though it could work with other objects, there are reasons to do it with flame. It is best to undertake such powerful practices under the guidance of a qualified teacher. Also, to start very slow, with just 1 or 2 minutes of practice a day, and slowly increasing the time. Opening of heart chakra (4th) is very important, before proceeding to practices that target the 3rd eye. I have learned that bypassing the heart and targeting the 3rd eye directly ( some schools do this), can result in some major imbalances. For this and various other reasons, even right practices undertaken at wrong time (in our own personal evolution), can produce negative results. In my experience, there are easier and safer ways to do energy practices effectively with guidance from a teacher or being part of the right group. If you want the complete details about undertaking this practice and it's benefits (including health), the best place to look for is in the books of: 'Kundaluni Tantra' & 'A Systematic Course in the Ancient Tantric Techniques of Yoga and Kriya' by Swami Satyananda Saraswati. Swami Sivananda's books on Kundaluni and Kriya yoga also have information about this practice. (Btw: I have both of these books. If you just need some additional information on this practice, I can try to get it from the books) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites