Shiva Untold: Lord of Ignorance

[neti neti]

In exploring perceived emptiness, that divine unborn principle manifests as pure potentiality. As that unborn principle, one is the Lord of Ignorance. The unknowing One, in which all knowledge spontaneously arises.

 

 

Edited February 21, 2018 by neti neti

[RiverSnake]

Love his videos on Shiva. Good stuff. 

[Boundlesscostfairy]

So he is saying that ignorance is about mystery and potential being expressed..

[neti neti]

12 hours ago, Boundlesscostfairy said:

So he is saying that ignorance is about mystery and potential being expressed..

 

There's nothing mysterious about the imperceptible, it's simply the absence of knowledge creating an illusion of mystery for the inquisitive mind. He says as much in the first 30 seconds.

 

Like any journey, the quest of self-discovery can be laden with pitfalls. This perception... this self-limitation, which convinces us of our inability to grasp the unknown, is one of them. For it relies upon a conviction that we must be able to.

 

The jivatman seeks knowledge, without first knowing himself. Yet simultaneously the answer to the question, "Who am I?", is ineffable aside from... "I don't know."

 

Knowledge is finite. The mysteriously unknown self of all, is boundless.

Edited February 28, 2018 by neti neti

[Boundlesscostfairy]

Maybe we are ignorant of what we will do..

 

We remember the past as knowledge..

 

And we are experiencing the present as knowledge, awareness, consciouness..

 

So the only ignorance there fore is in the future which hasnt happened yet..

[Jonesboy]

From the Siva Sutras:

 

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In the path of Saivism, there is nothing that exists or that does

not exist that is separated from citprakasa, the conscious self.

Impurity (mala), therefore, also does not exist. So how can impurity

(mala) come between you and the conscious self, creating

obstacles and bondage? It cannot. Then what is impurity

(malap. Impurity is not dirt, impurity is ignorance.

We are told this in the Malini Vijaya Tantra:

Impurity (mala) is the ignorance (ajnana) of undifferentiated

nature and the knowledge of differentiated nature. That ignorance

is the cause of the sprout of samsara.8 (Malini Vijaya

Tantra)

 

It is also said in the Sarvacara Tantra:

Because of this ignorance, you are filled with differentiated, not

undifferentiated, knowledge and you become bound in the wheel

of repeated births and deaths. This happens in innumerable

ways. (Sarvacara Tantra)

 

This contraction or limitation is caused by Paramesvara's great

illusive energy. This is the great force of illusion that has risen

by the power of his freedom. By this energy of his freedom, he

conceals his nature and reveals this limitation in his own self

just for play, not in trying to satisfy some deficiency or for pleasure.

 

The self is only a vacuum full of consciousness (akasakalpi).

And within that vacuum, that contraction or limitation, are

found the states from Anasrita Siva to limited jiva. The demonstration

of limitation is bondage. The contraction is in the

form of not knowing. It is ignorance, but ignorance of

what? Ignorance of the oneness of Siva. The sign of bondage

is the feeling that you are incomplete (apurnammanyata).

You agree that you are incomplete, that you are not full. That

is the impurity (mala) known as anavamala.

 

[Boundlesscostfairy]

So what is pure precisely?

[neti neti]

22 hours ago, Boundlesscostfairy said:

So what is pure precisely?

 

You are, as the unblemished or undifferentiated purity or light of knowledge that is without (the delusion of) the differentiated impurity or darkness of ignorance. However...

 

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As it has been said in the Svacchanda Tantra: 

 

When you experience casting aside the bondage of the bound individual (pasah) and put your consciousness in your own self, that is God consciousness. Then, after that, God consciousness is also to be abandoned and you must unite your consciousness in the pure knowledge of consciousness.

 

There, because the mind (manah) is only the collection of differentiated knowledge (samkalpa), you will find that state where the mind (manas) is not existing at all (unmana).12 (Svacchanda Tantra 5.393)

So, when you progress beyond the idea (samkalpa) of good and bad, of pure and impure, then actually, when you think deeply about it, there is no difference between individual consciousness and God consciousness. 

 

This is that supreme knowledge where you find universal God consciousness, the pervasion of Siva (sivavyapti). There is no greater knowledge (vidya) than this. (Svacchanda Tantra 5.394)

 

God consciousness is the same as the individual consciousness in which we are living. Our life is filled with individual consciousness. A yogi's life is filled with God consciousness. And a supreme yogi's life is filled with universal God consciousness. 

Individual God consciousness is the state of the mind (manah). God consciousness is the state of self (atma), and that self too is to be abandoned. Universal God consciousness is the state beyond mind (unmana). 

 

Now vidya (knowledge) is defined. There are three aspects found in vidya: (1) knowing (vedana), (2) infusing your consciousness (bodhana) and (3) the disposal of materials that are alien to yourself (varjana).

 

When (1) knowledge (vedana) of the eternal aspects of Siva – universal knowledge, universal will and universal action - is held and (2) the knowledge of supreme God consciousness is also achieved (bodhana); and (3) when the negation of universal God consciousness is abandoned and universal God consciousness is possessed (varjana) that, in reality, is called knowledge (vidya).

 

You must establish yourself there and then the supreme light of universal God consciousness, which is the only cause of entering into your real nature, will appear. (Svacchanda Tantra 5.395-96)  ~ From "Siva Sutras: The Supreme Awakening", Swami Lakshmanjoo

 

Edited March 18, 2018 by neti neti