3bob Posted March 24, 2018 a vehicle has its place and purposes, (before it is properly set down or picked back up for further use) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boundlesscostfairy Posted March 24, 2018 That makes sense.. In and out of ego, In and out of self, Reflection of needs and wants as a microcosm.. Merging and understanding the macrcosm.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boundlesscostfairy Posted March 24, 2018 So based on not self teachings.. Does the self completely disapear.. or does the self disolve into the tao(absolute ground state)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s1va Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) "Q: Samsare kim saram | What is the meaning or essence of Samsara? A: Bahusah abhi vicintyamanam idam eva | This alone is to be reflected on repeatedly" I was reading the Prasnottara Ratna Malika (Garland of Gems -- q & a) by Adi Sankara. Came across this question and wanted to share -- one of his numerous works on Advaita Vedanta. In this, the Acharya asks some 67 simple one liner questions and answers them himself. Direct and concise one liner Q&A. "In his Prasnottara-Ratnamalika, our Acarya asks: "Samsare kim saram? "(What is the meaning of worldly existence?) He responds to the question himself:" You asked the question thus. Keep asking again and again. That is the meaning of samsara. "("Bahusah abhi vicintyamanam idam eva.")" Some of the answers are brilliant. It is best read the questions in context. Here is the link to Prasnottara Ratna Malika entrie set of concise Q & A Edited March 24, 2018 by s1va 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neti neti Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, 3bob said: a vehicle has its place and purposes, (before it is properly set down or picked back up for further use) And some even arise to assume the role of purposelessness. All is fair game for the master idler. Moths drawn to the flame of extinction, those in darkness drawn to the light. Edited March 24, 2018 by neti neti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neti neti Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, s1va said: "Q: Samsare kim saram | What is the meaning or essence of Samsara? A: Bahusah abhi vicintyamanam idam eva | This alone is to be reflected on repeatedly" I was reading the Prasnottara Ratna Malika (Garland of Gems -- q & a) by Adi Sankara. Came across this question and wanted to share -- one of his numerous works on Advaita Vedanta. In this, the Acharya asks some 67 simple one liner questions and answers them himself. Direct and concise one liner Q&A. "In his Prasnottara-Ratnamalika, our Acarya asks: "Samsare kim saram? "(What is the meaning of worldly existence?) He responds to the question himself:" You asked the question thus. Keep asking again and again. That is the meaning of samsara. "("Bahusah abhi vicintyamanam idam eva.")" Some of the answers are brilliant. It is best read the questions in context. Here is the link to Prasnottara Ratna Malika entrie set of concise Q & A Interesting, a similar quote comes to mind. Ramana was asked a question along the lines of, "why?" He replied that this entire universe has appeared for the purpose of their opportunity to raise the question. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) there is the Joy which is beyond human joys and sorrows that springs forth, and it springs forth being that that is its nature, not unlike it's the nature of unconditional love to be unconditional, beyond which any "why" can explain. Hari Om Tat Sat Edited March 25, 2018 by 3bob 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s1va Posted March 25, 2018 15 hours ago, neti neti said: Interesting, a similar quote comes to mind. Ramana was asked a question along the lines of, "why?" He replied that this entire universe has appeared for the purpose of their opportunity to raise the question. Yes, very interesting. The answer may look rhetorical in the quoute and the question I posted. I think each one of us need to find out what Samsara is for ourselves. Therefore the teacher simply gives the answer to keep asking the question until one finds the answer themselves. What better answer could be given? He may explain Samsara beautifully, but I think he suggests everyone to discover it in their own experience. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boundlesscostfairy Posted March 25, 2018 So are you saying communication can't teach you the nature of reality or samsara? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neti neti Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 10:45 AM, steve said: Not me Me neither. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndoe2012 Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 1:13 PM, Jeff said: Interesting concept. How did you decide on the 80’s? Also, to know a percentage like that it implies you know what 100% is as bar. What does 100% mean? Any measuring implies you yourself or the other is not the Self but the self, which means doubt is there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
