Jeff Posted April 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Limahong said: Hi Jeff, I second this - "a couple in love... break down such obstructions" But not when they started to fall out of love. Sad - but such is life. - LimA If one "falls out of love", it was never really what I would call true love in the first place. True love is more like a radiance, there is no back and forth exchange or trade. Can a loving parent ever really fall out of love with their child? It is more like that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jeff said: Can a loving parent ever really fall out of love with their child? Hi Jeff, Thank you on the follow-ups. My focus is on the love between Ms Yin and Mr Yang. If the matrimonial institution is the proverbial coin, are marriage and divorce its flip-sides? - LimA Edited April 17, 2018 by Limahong 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Posted April 18, 2018 12 hours ago, Limahong said: Hi Jeff, Thank you on the follow-ups. My focus is on the love between Ms Yin and Mr Yang. If the matrimonial institution is the proverbial coin, are marriage and divorce its flip-sides? - LimA If your focus is on the love between two people, then I do not see how the matrimonial institution can be the “coin”. Is there not love before a marriage, and even potential love after a divorce? If one realizes that love is an aspect of virtue, and marriage is a form of family, then I think chapter 54 of the Tao Te Ching addresses your question... What is firmly established cannot be uprooted. What is firmly grasped cannot slip away. It will be honored from generation to generation. Cultivate Virtue in your self, And Virtue will be real. Cultivate it in the family, And Virtue will abound. Cultivate it in the village, And Virtue will grow. Cultivate it in the nation, And Virtue will be abundant. Cultivate it in the universe, And Virtue will be everywhere. Therefore look at the body as body; Look at the family as family; Look at the village as village; Look at the nation as nation; Look at the universe as universe. How do I know the universe is like this? By looking! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jeff said: matrimonial institution Hi Jeff, I regard marriage as 'institutional' from a societal perspective. It provides stability for social structures to prevail. A marriage is sustained by both love and efforts. It has been said that marriage is not a noun but a verb. It does not pertain to what the couple get; but what they do. On a lighter note - (a) a marriage is "I do" by chance and (b) a divorce is "We don't" by choice. - LimA Edited April 18, 2018 by Limahong Correct errors. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Posted April 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Limahong said: Hi Jeff, I regard marriage as 'institutional' from a societal perspective. It provides stability for social structures to prevail. A marriage is sustained by both love and efforts. It has been said that marriage is not noun but a verb. It does not pertain to what the couple get; but what they do. On a lighter note - (a) a marriage is "I do" by chance and (b) a divorce is "We don't" by choice. - LimA Seems like we are saying similar things. Cultivating is always a little work... Cultivate it in the family, And Virtue will abound. Also, 31 years of marriage for me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jeff said: 31 years of marriage for me... - LimA Edited April 18, 2018 by Limahong Enhance ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted April 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Jeff said: Cultivating is always a little work... Hi Jeff, Growth through cultivation... Cultivate it in the family, And Virtue will abound. - LimA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
