Starjumper Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Jetsun said: The vast majority of them were killed by Mao's purges, mostly what is left are fragments and partial teachings, if you are incredibly lucky you might stumble upon a genuine oral lineage but they are incredibly rare. Some of the very few lucky ones were able to escape China before that happened. In one book I read it describes how some of the Red Brigade invaded a Taoist Monastery up near Mongolia and killed the 125 year old master. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rara Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Rocky Lionmouth said: Yo! If somebody knows where they are dont tell us for Heavens sake, tell THEM to git their elusive selves out and do some actual work. We’re swamped over here and these people are acting seven kinds of precious, i mean really. If they are real sages, they should be out there doing some actual work. Who knows who is walking among us. One could even be your local checkout girl. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted March 26, 2018 I asked her already, she said ,"next to the paprika" 4 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky Lionmouth Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rara said: If they are real sages, they should be out there doing some actual work. Who knows who is walking among us. One could even be your local checkout girl. That is my word. You wanna hear something SERIOUSLY well timed? A more or less hour ago, about the exact same time you posted the above, i was sitting in the only open pharmacy waiting forever for my turn to get my late-arrival prescription for SSRIs, everybody in there is pissed off. Being an introverted sod and getting real close to my discomfort zone, 12+ hours over my dose-time, this hood kid sits his friend down next to me, weaves me into his conversation and starts cracking hysterical jokes, being obnoxious and hilarious. I tag along because i cant help myself and take a few good breaths. 15 people in the room, 12 of them just start giggling, 3 morons grab their valuables andmove far away from him. He’s still dropping low-key funnies all casually like it’s nothing. Basically everybody relaxes because this youngster defuses the room. Then this real annoying lady, talking to herself, pissed and pissed off, sits next to me and my anxiety swings back in effect. I joke you not, that kid takes a look at me, cracks something hilarious and asks to switch numbers with me, knowing full well i came in half an hour after him. I protest but he sticks his ticket in my hand and BING there go my number, his number. I go do my business incredulously, bump knuckles and hug the obvious Sage before me, he’s gets all shy, gives me a cocky but cute smile and returns the pleasantries like a gentleman. That shut me up for callin these guys out So FYI: there is a young Sage in Malmö, afroswedish kid from the borough south from me. He knows how to harmonize people’s emotional states and pacify a room full nearing their patience limit, misdirect belligerous alcoholics, he works number magic and knows how to make people work faster without even speaking to them directly. Great Heart Conquering Gong, Cooling Breeze Gong, Serendipitous Moment Skill and Diamond Reflecting Sight Method. If you can find him tell him i’m on to his charade and am grateful. Right, i almost forgot: somewhere in our first interaction the guy even asks me if i have a job for him, making sure that it’s a serious question. Edited March 26, 2018 by Rocky Lionmouth 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted March 27, 2018 They move like breezes. Without distinction, while emanating freshness, revitalizing and soothing effects in their wake. Often unnoticed until passing or past, yet the presence is distinct, poignant and potent in its subtlety... as shifting and present as a cooling breeze in the midst of a still, hot, muggy afternoon. I used to think of them as medicines... treatments... pills in a way. Now I sense they are like the swinging open of a door, where there is no door. Yet they emanate opening and the bellows of the tao breathes in their wake, refreshing all. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rara Posted March 27, 2018 18 hours ago, Rocky Lionmouth said: That is my word. You wanna hear something SERIOUSLY well timed? A more or less hour ago, about the exact same time you posted the above, i was sitting in the only open pharmacy waiting forever for my turn to get my late-arrival prescription for SSRIs, everybody in there is pissed off. Being an introverted sod and getting real close to my discomfort zone, 12+ hours over my dose-time, this hood kid sits his friend down next to me, weaves me into his conversation and starts cracking hysterical jokes, being obnoxious and hilarious. I tag along because i cant help myself and take a few good breaths. 15 people in the room, 12 of them just start giggling, 3 morons grab their valuables andmove far away from him. He’s still dropping low-key funnies all casually like it’s nothing. Basically everybody relaxes because this youngster defuses the room. Then this real annoying lady, talking to herself, pissed and pissed off, sits next to me and my anxiety swings back in effect. I joke you not, that kid takes a look at me, cracks something hilarious and asks to switch numbers with me, knowing full well i came in half an hour after him. I protest but he sticks his ticket in my hand and BING there go my number, his number. I go do my business incredulously, bump knuckles and hug the obvious Sage before me, he’s gets all shy, gives me a cocky but cute smile and returns the pleasantries like a gentleman. That shut me up for callin these guys out So FYI: there is a young Sage in Malmö, afroswedish kid from the borough south from me. He knows how to harmonize people’s emotional states and pacify a room full nearing their patience limit, misdirect belligerous alcoholics, he works number magic and knows how to make people work faster without even speaking to them directly. Great Heart Conquering Gong, Cooling Breeze Gong, Serendipitous Moment Skill and Diamond Reflecting Sight Method. If you can find him tell him i’m on to his charade and am grateful. Right, i almost forgot: somewhere in our first interaction the guy even asks me if i have a job for him, making sure that it’s a serious question. I'm having a lot of synchronicity happening at the moment Whether or not this was a sage, I do find it fascinating how you'll find young individuals with such qualities - and elder individuals with non whatsoever. Some might say that may be from cultivation in previous lives. Hmmmmm. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky Lionmouth Posted March 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Rara said: I'm having a lot of synchronicity happening at the moment Whether or not this was a sage, I do find it fascinating how you'll find young individuals with such qualities - and elder individuals with non whatsoever. Some might say that may be from cultivation in previous lives. Hmmmmm. Guess you’re keepin up with the times then. 😂 For me either was or some Sage sent one of his friends to poke fun a d help me out. Maybe its like you say, or maybe they manifest in those who are needed right there. Besides those lineage guys who obviously hang out in temples dling their thing. My Older Brother and me always had this drunk show up early as shiet when we were doing polearm and form training in the park. Suddenly he’d just be sitting there, fresh golden beercan in his hand (bought from where nobody know because it was way early) and looking at us, whooping loudly when Sihing or me finally aced certain techniques. He’d salute us and just ghost right before we called it off for the morning. I think he was limping and we used to joke it might be old Iron Crutch having a cordial laugh at us. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rara Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rocky Lionmouth said: Guess you’re keepin up with the times then. 😂 For me either was or some Sage sent one of his friends to poke fun a d help me out. Maybe its like you say, or maybe they manifest in those who are needed right there. Besides those lineage guys who obviously hang out in temples dling their thing. My Older Brother and me always had this drunk show up early as shiet when we were doing polearm and form training in the park. Suddenly he’d just be sitting there, fresh golden beercan in his hand (bought from where nobody know because it was way early) and looking at us, whooping loudly when Sihing or me finally aced certain techniques. He’d salute us and just ghost right before we called it off for the morning. I think he was limping and we used to joke it might be old Iron Crutch having a cordial laugh at us. Stop being online as I log in Ah, ole Iron Crutch. You never know! This takes me back years - the old guy that looks like Doc from Back to the Future who kept springing up. Or everywhere I walked, a fella that looks like Levi Roots, in the exact same blazer and jeans every day. I was dropping leaflets for my friend's pizza shop at the time - so I was driven to different locations all over town. And Huddersfield is a BIG town. This guy was always on foot. So what was he doing crossing paths with me every day? You just never know. But I think subconsciously, we do. Edited March 27, 2018 by Rara 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted March 27, 2018 Looking up Taoist temple nearby didn't work well, but Taiji Bum had a great listing.. course its a few years old. On 3/14/2008 at 12:33 PM, Taiji Bum said: Here's a start. Tao Academy 15 Kansas Street Eureka Spring, AR 72632 Phone: 501-253-9110 Taoism Taoist Sanctuary PO Box 27806 Tempe, AZ 85282 Taoism Hsien Taoist Monastery 760 Cathedral Dr. Aptos, CA 95003 Phone: 831-688-5514 Taoism Chi Tao Kuan (Temple of Chi Tao) 2488 M.L. King Jr. Wy. Berkeley, CA 94704 Taoism Taoist Resource Center 2800 W. Victory Blvd. Burbank, CA 91505 Phone: 626-848-2935 Taoism World I-kuan Tao Headquarters 11645 Lower Azusa Road El Monte, CA 91732 Phone: 626-279-1097 Fax: 626-279-1098 Website: www.with.org/ Taoism Taoist Temple 12 China Alley Hanford, CA 93230 Phone: 559-582-4508 Taoism Teo Chew Association 649 North Broadway Los Angeles, CA 90012 Center Profile Taoism Union of Tao and Man-College of Tao and Traditional Chinese Medicine 117 Stonehaven Way Los Angeles, CA 90049 Phone: 213-472-9970 Taoism Taoist Institute of Los Angeles 10630 Burbank Blvd. North Hollywood, CA 91601 Phone: 818-760-4219 Website: www.taoistinstitute.com/ Taoism Taoist Center 420 Fourteenth St. Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: 510-763-9352 Taoism Zhi Dao Guan - The Taoist Center 3824 Macarthur Boulevard Oakland, CA 94619 Phone: 510-336-0129 Website: www.thetaoistcenter.com In the News Taoism Taoist Sanctuary of San Diego 4229 Park Blvd San Diego, CA 92103 Phone: 619-692-1155 Website: www.Taoistsanctuary.org/ Taoism Chi Sin Buddhist & Taoist Association 1051 Powell San Francisco, CA 94108 Phone: 415-982-8175 Taoism Ching Chung Taoist Association 615 Grant Avenue San Francisco, CA 94108 Phone: 415-433-2623 Taoism Inner Research Institute 143 Ripley Street San Francisco, CA 94110 Phone: 415-285-9408 Website: www.iritaichi.org/ Taoism Jeng Sen Buddhism & Taoism Association 146 Waverly Pl. San Francisco, CA 94108 Phone: 415-397-2941 Taoism Kong Chow Temple 855 Stockton San Francisco, CA 94108 Phone: 415-788-1339 Taoism San Pao Temple 150 Van Ness Avenue San Francisco, CA 94109 Phone: 415-776-6538 Taoism Orthodox Taoism Santa Cruz, CA Taoism Daoist Medical Qigong Center Sebastopol, CA Phone: 707-829-1855 Website: hometown.aol.com/michaelrqi/ Taoism Fung Loy Kok Taoist Temple/Taoist Tai Chi Society 1060 Bannock Street Denver, CO 80204 Phone: 303-623-5163 Website: colorado.usa.taoist.org/index.html Taoism Fung Loy Kok Institute of Taoism/Taoist Tai Chi Society 7560 Sheridan Blvd Westminster, CO 80003 Phone: 303-431-6094 Website: colorado.usa.taoist.org/index.html Taoism Stillpoint (Taoist University) Rye Star Route Wetmore, CO 81253 Taoism Great River Taoist Center 1325 18th Street NW, Suite 210 Washington, DC 20016 Phone: 703-765-8522 or 202-785-1767 Website: www.grtc.org/ Taoism Fung Loy Kok Institute of Taoism/Taoist Tai Chi Society 1833 Dr. MLK Jr. St. North N. St. Petersburg, FL 33072 Phone: 727-521-3336 Fax: 727-521-3336 Website: www.taoist.org/branches/usa/florida/stpetersburg/index.htm Taoism Genesee Valley Hermitage PO Box 9224 Moscow, ID 83843-1724 Phone: 208-285-0123 Taoism Living Tao Foundation PO Box 846 Urbana, IL 61803 Phone: 217-337-6113 Website: www.livingtao.org/ Taoism Tai Chi Chuan & Chi Kung Association of New Orleans 6499-C Jefferson Highway Harahan, LA 70123 Phone: 504-889-2669 Taoism Center of Traditional Taoist Studies P.O. Box 134 Weston, MA 02193 Phone: 781-899-7120 Website: www.tao.org Center Profile Taoism Fung Loy Kok Institute of Taoism/Taoist Tai Chi Society 968 Kenmore Avenue Buffalo, NY 14216 Phone: 716-876-7218 Fax: 716-876-7218 Website: www.taoist.org/branches/usa/newyork/buffalo/ Taoism Bo Tao Gu 14340 Roosevelt Ave, Suite 7G Flushing, NY 11354 Phone: 718-896-0909 Taoism Bo Tao Gu 10025 Queens Blvd. Suite 1P Forest Hills, NY 11375 Phone: 781-896-0909 Taoism Healing Tao Center (Taoist Esoteric Yoga Mantak Chia) 12 Bowery, 3rd Floor New York, NY 10013 Phone: 212-619-2406 Taoism Abode of the Eternal Tao 1991 Garfield St. Eugene, OR 97405 Phone: 541-345-8854 Website: www.abodetao.com Taoism Eo Omwake--Deer Valley Taoist Center for Arts & Mind, Body Spirit Academy of Martial Art & Self-Cultivation PO Box 415 Chadds Ford, PA 19317 Phone: 610-932-8571 Website: www.flowinghands.com/mbs_htm/mbs.home.htm Taoism Teen How Chua Ba Temple 1507 Delano Houston, TX 77003 Phone: 713-236-1015 Taoism Deer Mountain Taoist Academy RD 3, Box 109A Guilford, VT 05301 Taoism Dohn-o Zen & Taoist Center 10303 Densmore Avenue North Seattle, WA 98133 Phone: 206-526-1274 Taoism On 3/26/2018 at 10:27 AM, thelerner said: .. look up the nearest Taoist temple, one with a real lineage, go there and ask around. You might find one. As others pointed out a 'famous' Taoist sage, might be an oxymoron. Good ones don't seek fame, though sometimes it happens. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sternbach Posted March 28, 2018 Winnie The Pooh is a great Daoist sage. Other than that, look inside yourself... 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) I`ll settle for meeting any ole sage. Taoist practice and philosophy is strictly optional. Meeting sages is like visiting Yosemite; there`s the possibility of feeling profoundly moved by the awesomeness of nature , even human nature. If you have the opportunity to meet a sage, I heartily recommend it. Years ago I saw a Hasidic Jew singing quietly to himself as he walked down the street in Jerusalem. There were lots of Hasidim around so that in itself didn`t mean much...but there was just something about this guy. I knew he had it and I didn`t even know what it was. I even followed him for a block or so, like a spiritual stalker, just to stay in his presence. I think there`s something about sagehood that transcends philosophy and religion as they are normally understood. A sage is a sage and I believe they exist within all sorts of spiritual traditions and communities -- and also apart from all specific traditions and communities. ( I wouldn`t swear to it --it`s hard for me to pick up the vibe online - but I think there are even a few lurking around this forum from time to time. ) I like to think that sages from different traditions, Christian and Jew, Buddhist and Taoist, could recognize each other, wink at each other with their third eyes across the dinner table so to speak. But even sages are human and that kind of openness is probably too much to ask for. You know that old saw about sages? It takes one to know one. We recognize a sage with our own sagey eyes. There`s the power in softness and the softness in power. There`s love. But they don`t so much show us their virtuous qualities as illuminate our own. LL Edited March 28, 2018 by liminal_luke 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Michael Sternbach said: Winnie The Pooh is a great Daoist sage. Other than that, look inside yourself... ^^^ this ^^^ This is your life, people. Own it. Find teachers and learn, but at some point you will need to forge your own path. It's scary moving into uncharted territory, but don't let that stop you. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) A painter at work, seeing my vajra necklace asked me "oh! do you have a teacher?" "absolutely... you, him, the floor, the door, that bush outside, the sky... the wind... ... ... teachers everywhere" now I look out and realize... where would I look and seek outside, for that which already lies... within? Edited March 28, 2018 by silent thunder add 'teachers everywhere' 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rara Posted March 28, 2018 7 hours ago, liminal_luke said: I`ll settle for meeting any ole sage. Taoist practice and philosophy is strictly optional. Meeting sages is like visiting Yosemite; there`s the possibility of feeling profoundly moved by the awesomeness of nature , even human nature. If you have the opportunity to meet a sage, I heartily recommend it. Years ago I saw a Hasidic Jew singing quietly to himself as he walked down the street in Jerusalem. There were lots of Hasidim around so that in itself didn`t mean much...but there was just something about this guy. I knew he had it and I didn`t even know what it was. I even followed him for a block or so, like a spiritual stalker, just to stay in his presence. I think there`s something about sagehood that transcends philosophy and religion as they are normally understood. A sage is a sage and I believe they exist within all sorts of spiritual traditions and communities -- and also apart from all specific traditions and communities. ( I wouldn`t swear to it --it`s hard for me to pick up the vibe online - but I think there are even a few lurking around this forum from time to time. ) I like to think that sages from different traditions, Christian and Jew, Buddhist and Taoist, could recognize each other, wink at each other with their third eyes across the dinner table so to speak. But even sages are human and that kind of openness is probably too much to ask for. You know that old saw about sages? It takes one to know one. We recognize a sage with our own sagey eyes. There`s the power in softness and the softness in power. There`s love. But they don`t so much show us their virtuous qualities as illuminate our own. LL I've been chilling with some very peaceful and lovely Muslims as of late. Their philosophy is not too far from the Taoist one, really. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky Lionmouth Posted March 28, 2018 13 hours ago, Rara said: Stop being online as I log in Ah, ole Iron Crutch. You never know! This takes me back years - the old guy that looks like Doc from Back to the Future who kept springing up. Or everywhere I walked, a fella that looks like Levi Roots, in the exact same blazer and jeans every day. I was dropping leaflets for my friend's pizza shop at the time - so I was driven to different locations all over town. And Huddersfield is a BIG town. This guy was always on foot. So what was he doing crossing paths with me every day? You just never know. But I think subconsciously, we do. Maybe i will, maybe i wont, how about that? 😘 Doc and Levi Roots the teleporter? Däng Ra, sounds like Huddersfield is a good place to go wtf-spotting! i agree, we know, and yet we dont. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rara Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Rocky Lionmouth said: Maybe i will, maybe i wont, how about that? 😘 Doc and Levi Roots the teleporter? Däng Ra, sounds like Huddersfield is a good place to go wtf-spotting! i agree, we know, and yet we dont. You just did it again. Logged in 5 mins ago haha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky Lionmouth Posted March 30, 2018 On 2018-03-28 at 12:00 PM, Rara said: You just did it again. Logged in 5 mins ago haha You here now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Try Posted March 30, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 4:09 AM, Stosh said: I asked her already, she said ,"next to the paprika" I also heard, "there's not so much thyme left if you're looking for one" 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bud Jetsun Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) The only sage you could personally experience is a personal mindful choice away from appreciating the real of this moment. Otherwise one can feel energy/sound/light/touch which a being may offer, but will not be appreciating the nature of sage but rather worshiping a constructed visual/theoretical fantasy model of what's available to optionally be appreciated to the limits of ones choice in mindfulness for this single fleeting moment. Re-ligion is a byproduct of copying someone elses method into sage state of being in Now, which may optionally workout for whomever mindfully chooses to manifest it with every breath in, every breath out, and the times in between. A Buddhist/Taoist/Shiva/Christian/Muslim sage, all are equally capable of choosing to appreciate the same real in Now. This is choosing to appreciate the aspects which are the of the Dao but do not limit it the Dao to be experienced in unlimited choices in manifestation by infathomable and innumerate beings. Unlimited Love, -Bud Edited March 30, 2018 by Bud Jetsun 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) OK kids, I found a sage for you, only problem is, he isn't a Taoist, he's Hindu. However a true mystic, which is what a real sage is, transcends these kinds of petty divisions and sees further. In addition Taoism and Hinduism have quite a lot in common when it comes to cultivation of high level stuff (not power yoga). Here we have a sage who likes to have talkfests, something that is more rare in Taoism and more common in Hinduism. I suppose talkfests are useful if it gets people to meditate, also, he speaks Engrish. Anyway, here I present to you a true sage - TADAAAA - Sadhguru. Just about the only guy who's wisdom I am willing to watch. He has a ton of videos: Edited May 18, 2018 by Starjumper 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted May 18, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 10:46 PM, liminal_luke said: I think there`s something about sagehood that transcends philosophy and religion as they are normally understood. A sage is a sage and I believe they exist within all sorts of spiritual traditions and communities -- and also apart from all specific traditions and communities. ( I wouldn`t swear to it --it`s hard for me to pick up the vibe online - but I think there are even a few lurking around this forum from time to time. ) I like to think that sages from different traditions, Christian and Jew, Buddhist and Taoist, could recognize each other, wink at each other with their third eyes across the dinner table so to speak. But even sages are human and that kind of openness is probably too much to ask for. Well said Whether or not it's too much to ask for depends on how we agree to define Sage... It should be part of the requirement AFAIAC 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mig Posted May 22, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 4:06 PM, Starjumper said: OK kids, I found a sage for you, only problem is, he isn't a Taoist, he's Hindu. However a true mystic, which is what a real sage is, transcends these kinds of petty divisions and sees further. In addition Taoism and Hinduism have quite a lot in common when it comes to cultivation of high level stuff (not power yoga). Here we have a sage who likes to have talkfests, something that is more rare in Taoism and more common in Hinduism. I suppose talkfests are useful if it gets people to meditate, also, he speaks Engrish. Anyway, here I present to you a true sage - TADAAAA - Sadhguru. Just about the only guy who's wisdom I am willing to watch. He has a ton of videos: It seems a good marketer to sell ideas and using big words, it is the reaction after watching his site and his Youtube videos 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted May 22, 2018 8 hours ago, GSmaster said: You have good eyes, I have noticed him too. I have watched only one talk but could confirm from it that he is one of us. Similar here, I think I've only watched two of his videos all the way through in six years. and I did recognize him as a brother. Quite a verbose brother as compared to my 'father' (master) and myself. His videos come up on my Utube suggestions though so sometimes I take a quick peek, and as synchronicity would have it, the video just happens to address something here or there (I have quit 'there', FB) that is current. So, being overwhelmed by laziness, I post the video I haven't watched instead of commenting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted May 22, 2018 8 hours ago, GSmaster said: Have you seen his meditation classes? Nuts. Wow, so much sick energy in such a small space! Poor guy who makes himself put up with it, no wonder he's called Sad Guru. Taoist wizards usually avoid things like that, because being more selfish they don't want to get contaminated with all the sick energy. Hopefully he has a very small group of inner door students. I can see I was very fortunate to have the chance for many years to sit around a small round table with a couple of other guys for hours and shoot the shit with my teacher before and after chi kung practice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
