ancient jews as bedouin ?

[LAOLONG]

When i read the old testament
Abraham Izaak Jacob the patriarch
Living in their tent with cattle ,
And later on the 13 Israeli tribes
A tribe system. And many of the laws o Moses when the Israeli
Where in the desert , ir ermines
The unwritten laws of thehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedouin
Where the ancient Jews Bedouin?

[Lost in Translation]

(why do I always take the bait...?)

 

Are you asking if Arabs are descended from Jews? I suspect you are. If that is your actual question then why not simply say so?

[LAOLONG]

46 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said:

(why do I always take the bait...?)

 

Are you asking if Arabs are descended from Jews? I suspect you are. If that is your actual question then why not simply say so?

Not arabs , the bedouin.

Most arabs are not bedouin.

MOHAMAD THE PROPHET

had war with jewish tribes

Near mecca .

[Lost in Translation]

8 minutes ago, 121 said:

Not arabs , the bedouin.

Most arabs are not bedouin.

MOHAMAD THE PROPHET

had war with jewish tribes

Near mecca .

 

Respectfully, what's the point? I am happy to converse with you (or anyone else) about a great many subjects, but even I have a limit. Would you prefer that I stop responding to your posts?

[LAOLONG]

3 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said:

 

Respectfully, what's the point? I am happy to converse with you (or anyone else) about a great many subjects, but even I have a limit. Would you prefer that I stop responding to your posts?

The . (Point)  is ziro in arb numbers☺

The truth is that before islam

Many tribs were jewish.

The https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers were jewish .

The afgan taliban http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/135487

And

https://www.google.co.il/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/archaeology/before-islam-when-saudi-arabia-was-a-jewish-kingdom-1.5626227

[Lost in Translation]

That is very true, and one tribe (the sons of Israel) became the Jewish people and the rest did not. Certainly those other tribes have blended in with all the peoples of the middle east, including Arabs.

 

Recall that Genesis started with Adam and Eve, and God was there with them in the garden. All peoples descend from them. But that does not make all people chosen by God, or does it?

[LAOLONG]

1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said:

 

 

Recall that Genesis started with Adam and Eve, and God was there with them in the garden. All peoples descend from them. But that does not make all people chosen by God, or does it?

Genesis begin with the word

בראשית

ב is B

ראשית is begining

So 2 criation storys

Genesis 1 adam  is criated

ויברא את האדם

ברא create

אדם adam

Gensis 2 adam is foremed from ground

וייצר את האדם

וייצר to form

אדם adam

Ground is adamaאדמה like  adam.

Not all pepole are from adam and

Eve (genesis 2)

Most are from adam genesis 1.

[Lost in Translation]

2 minutes ago, 121 said:

Ground is adamaאדמה like  adam.

Not all pepole are from adam and

Eve (genesis 2)

Most are from adam genesis 1.

 

I understand there is some word-play here. Adam (the name) has special meaning in Hebrew. The same is true for Eve, if I recall correctly.

 

That said, how were all people who were not Adam or Eve created? Did they just spring forth from the dirt? I think not. They were children (and grandchildren, etc) of Adam and Eve.

 

Please explain how a person (except Eve) could be from Adam and not also from Eve?

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said:

 

Respectfully, what's the point? I am happy to converse with you (or anyone else) about a great many subjects, but even I have a limit. Would you prefer that I stop responding to your posts?

 

he seems to have trouble communicating  and answering questions  (or ignores them ) and will not rise to a challenge .

 

Maybe see these posts as more like 'announcements ' ?  Although these ones have a question in them .  I assume its rhetorical and actually has nothing to do with the facts or cultural anthropology at all ., but is a prelude to something .

 

 

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said:

That is very true, and one tribe (the sons of Israel) became the Jewish people and the rest did not. Certainly those other tribes have blended in with all the peoples of the middle east, including Arabs.

 

Recall that Genesis started with Adam and Eve, and God was there with them in the garden. All peoples descend from them. But that does not make all people chosen by God, or does it?

 

yes, this t indicates that all the other tribes  did not become Jews . So those other ("many tribes' ) tribes were not 'Jewish before Islam'

Edited April 19, 2018 by Nungali

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Edited April 19, 2018 by 121

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said:

That is very true, and one tribe (the sons of Israel) became the Jewish people and the rest did not. Certainly those other tribes have blended in with all the peoples of the middle east, including Arabs.

 

Recall that Genesis started with Adam and Eve, and God was there with them in the garden. All peoples descend from them. But that does not make all people chosen by God, or does it?

 

Adam and Eve were Jewish too  .

 

[Nungali]

24 minutes ago, 121 said:

Genesis begin with the word

בראשית

ב is B

ראשית is begining

So 2 criation storys

Genesis 1 adam  is criated

ויברא את האדם

ברא create

אדם adam

Gensis 2 adam is foremed from ground

וייצר את האדם

וייצר to form

אדם adam

Ground is adamaאדמה like  adam.

Not all pepole are from adam and

Eve (genesis 2)

Most are from adam genesis 1.

 

 

here we go   .... the real rsason for this thread  ^

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20 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said:

 

I 

 

Please explain how a person (except Eve) could be from Adam and not also from Eve?

writen in the six day of criation

In gensis 1.

2 begining ב ראשית

The bible is mix of 2 main tradition

Genesis 1 is the 11 tribes of israel tradition

And god is  אלהים .

Genesis 2 is the tribe of jehuda

Tradition and the name of god

Is יהוה like the name of the tribe

יהודה jehuda.

That is in genesis book in general.

Farther on in the bible there is the 3 traditon of the 13 tribe levi לוי

Dealing with pristhood and very

 Ancient Egypt pristhood influnce

[Nungali]

4 minutes ago, 121 said:

It is writen in the six day of criation

In gensis 1.

2 begining ב ראשית

The bible is mix of 2 main tradition

Genesis 1 is the 11 tribes of israel tradition

And god is  אלהים .

Genesis 2 is the tribe of jehuda

Tradition and the name of god

Is יהוה like the name of the tribe

יהודה jehuda.

That is in genesis book in general.

Farther on in the bible there is the 3 traditon of the 13 tribe levi לוי

Dealing with pristhood and very

 Ancient Egypt pristhood influnce.

 

... and this makes them Bedoins does it ?

[LAOLONG]

5 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

... and this makes them Bedoins does it ?

וt is my

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_(narrative_mode)

[Lost in Translation]

6 minutes ago, 121 said:

writen in the six day of criation

In gensis 1.

2 begining ב ראשית

The bible is mix of 2 main tradition

Genesis 1 is the 11 tribes of israel tradition

And god is  אלהים .

Genesis 2 is the tribe of jehuda

Tradition and the name of god

Is יהוה like the name of the tribe

יהודה jehuda.

That is in genesis book in general.

Farther on in the bible there is the 3 traditon of the 13 tribe levi לוי

Dealing with pristhood and very

 Ancient Egypt pristhood influnce

 

Thank you for explaining this. I still do not see how this proves your assertion, but I respect your words.

[Lost in Translation]

3 hours ago, 121 said:

When i read the old testament
Abraham Izaak Jacob the patriarch
Living in their tent with cattle ,
And later on the 13 Israeli tribes
A tribe system. And many of the laws o Moses when the Israeli
Where in the desert , ir ermines
The unwritten laws of thehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedouin
Where the ancient Jews Bedouin?

 

@121 My gift to you!

 

 

[LAOLONG]

36 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

... and this makes them Bedoins does it ?

Eastren logic like the

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud

And

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuangzi_(book)

Is a mix of logic and

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_(narrative_mode)

A little diferent from "west"logic

Edited April 20, 2018 by 121

[Nungali]

37 minutes ago, 121 said:

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 Dude !    There isnt much point removing it .... especially after its been quoted   

 

[Nungali]

28 minutes ago, 121 said:

וt is my

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_(narrative_mode)

 

I hope you understand why that link talks about this within the context of literary criticism ?

 

Then you might understand the responses (or lack of them ) better .  Hint - this is a discussion board not a blog page .

[Nungali]

23 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said:

 

@121 My gift to you!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

28 minutes ago, 121 said:

Eastren logic like the

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud

And

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuangzi_(book)

Is

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_(narrative_mode)

A little diferent from "west"logic

 

Except I do not have 'west logic' .

 

Shall I start putting up links where other Jews say this theory is rubbish ? 

 

Does your 'eastern logic'  say  that  other Jews, Rabbis , Israelis  affirm that  ancient Jews were Bedouin ? 

 

Thats a really pathetic attempt at justifying your personal and skewif 'number philosophy'  (which isnt even good in an 'eastern mindset' ) 

 

Even a 'western logic' person    knows that  if anything  they consider the Bedouin  as descendants of ancient Jews  - not the other way around  as you are somehow trying to demonstrate. 

 

Maybe less 'Kabbalah' and a bit more Wiki  ?      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_tribes_of_Arabia

Edited April 20, 2018 by Nungali

[Nungali]

By the way, I have a few Israeli  friends both Jewish and non- Jewish - one heavily into Kabbalah , and I find our levels of logic rather similar .

 

You need to make up some other excuses  

[gnome]

1 hour ago, Nungali said:

 

Adam and Eve were Jewish too  .

 

 

Yeah :-) technically only Abraham was the first 'hebrew'. Adam and Eve were the parents of all Mankind.