ancient jews as bedouin ?

[Nungali]

If Eve was a Jew ... then we all are   

[LAOLONG]

34 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

 

Maybe less 'Kabbalah' and a bit more Wiki  ?      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_tribes_of_Arabia

Thnkes for the wiki link.

Im not into "kabbalah"

וm an ofspring of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasidic_Judaism 

That after  ww2  not many were

Left from my hasidic branch

 

[Nungali]

You should really read your own links when you make stuff up      

 

 

" Hasidic thought draws heavily on Lurianic Kabbalah, and, to an extent, is a popularization of it. "  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasidic_Judaism

 

And I am sure a real  hasidic jew could come up with a better traditional reference than Wikipedia ?    

 

AND  if you are not into Kabbalah ... what was all that number and letter stuff you have posting for the last few months,  hmmmmmm ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[ralis]

2 hours ago, gnome said:

 

Yeah :-) technically only Abraham was the first 'hebrew'. Adam and Eve were the parents of all Mankind.

 

The Adam and Eve myth is just that, a myth. The earth is around 4.5 billion years old and the first human ancestors appeared circa 5-7 million years ago. 

[ralis]

2 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

I hope you understand why that link talks about this within the context of literary criticism ?

 

Then you might understand the responses (or lack of them ) better .  Hint - this is a discussion board not a blog page .

 

He started this thread and it quickly descended into phrenology and other nonsense by one poster here.

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/46567-what-the-nazi-hate-the-most/?tab=comments#comment-816133

 

[LAOLONG]

3 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

 

AND  if you are not into Kabbalah ... what was all that number and letter stuff you have posting for the last few months,  hmmmmmm ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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There is different system of kabbalah
Everyone acording to the root of his holy name
Moses kabbalahhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_ben_Jacob_Cordovero
Abraham kabbalahhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Abulafia
Isaac kabbalahhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Luria
Jacob kabbalah 

[gnome]

12 hours ago, ralis said:

 

The Adam and Eve myth is just that, a myth. The earth is around 4.5 billion years old and the first human ancestors appeared circa 5-7 million years ago. 

 

No one said it wasn't a myth. Of course it is, even a layman can see it's a metaphor.

Science is based on theories though,.no one ever saw the world back 5000 years ago. It all hangs on a thread.

[ralis]

1 hour ago, gnome said:

 

No one said it wasn't a myth. Of course it is, even a layman can see it's a metaphor.

Science is based on theories though,.no one ever saw the world back 5000 years ago. It all hangs on a thread.

 

No one existed 5000 years ago?

[Nungali]

20 hours ago, 121 said:

There is different system of kabbalah
Everyone acording to the root of his holy name
Moses kabbalahhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_ben_Jacob_Cordovero
Abraham kabbalahhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Abulafia
Isaac kabbalahhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Luria
Jacob kabbalah 

 

I see  ... another straight answer totally relating to my question and the point I made  ...

 

Spoiler

....   NOT !

 

[gnome]

On 20/04/2018 at 6:06 PM, ralis said:

 

No one existed 5000 years ago?

 

We're going in circles here, let me repeat myself:

- Genesis is a myth;

- Science can't explain everything. That's all.

[Cheshire Cat]

 

On 19/4/2018 at 11:38 PM, Lost in Translation said:

That is very true, and one tribe (the sons of Israel) became the Jewish people and the rest did not. [...]

 

Not really. We don't know for sure that we're talking about "Jews".

 

The term "jewish" would imply that they're all from the tribe of Judah, an historically inaccurate hypothesis . In fact, there are those who prefer the term "Israelites" to say that they come from the 12 tribes and the "state of Israel" is definitely not the "state of Judea".

 

But in ancient time, when historians (and writers) talked about the "jews" who inhabited the region, they used the word "hebrews".

For example, the apostle Paul wrote the "Epistle to the hebrews" and not the "Epistles to the jews"... and he was a Jew and he was writing to his own people.

Where does the term "hebrew" come from?

 

• Noah
  • Other children
  • Sem, his people were the Semites
    • descendants
      • Ever, his peopel were the Ivriim or the hebrews (from here, they're all hebrews)
        • descendants
          • Terach
            • Nacor
            • Aram
            • Abraham
              • Isaac
                • Esau
                • Jacob (Israel)

The bible talks about the pact between God and Israel. Everyone else is outside of the pact, even Jacob's twin brother.

But they're all hebrews.