Stosh Posted May 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, silent thunder said: to every season... turn, turn. to every rule... an exception. We will not go quietly into that sweet goodnight..but.. If anything , the quote suggests karma which applies to all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kar3n Posted May 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, wandelaar said: Acknowledging the facts just as they are, is a very difficult thing when our ego stands in the way. And it is the ego that insists others share their view. Â The Taoist approach would be to leave folks to figure it out for themselves. The wisdom of wei wu wei comes to mind... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted May 4, 2018 do without forcing  allow space for that which has already aligned in phenomena  do not constrict that which abides in noumena  do without forcing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted May 4, 2018 Ever see a waterfall? Lots of force there.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted May 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, Kar3n said: And it is the ego that insists others share their view. Â The Taoist approach would be to leave folks to figure it out for themselves. The wisdom of wei wu wei comes to mind... Â Nice - then why discuss anything at all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, wandelaar said: Â Nice - then why discuss anything at all? Because we feel a need to express our self and occasionally see if there are others who have similar understandings. Â You keep on talking as I enjoy the now and then moments when I get to disagree with you. Â 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted May 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Marblehead said: Ever see a waterfall? Lots of force there.  yet no forcing and no effort 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kar3n Posted May 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, wandelaar said:  Nice - then why discuss anything at all? Because we humans are social beings. Some have the gift of gab and like to talk (and read) about things we are interested in.  Even good ol' Lao Tzu... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted May 4, 2018 I will start another topic about how we are supposed to discuss things on this forum. As I am a newbie here I might be able to learn something. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted May 5, 2018 I try to not tell anyone how to think or what to think. Rather, I express how I think and what I think, and ask questions. Socrates knew what he was doing, IMO, and is worth emulating in this regard. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted May 5, 2018 That's a good one, could you post the same in the new topic I will open in a minute? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted May 5, 2018 I just had the thought run through my brain:Â are we eventually going to discuss the proper use of the middle finger? Â 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kar3n Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, Marblehead said: I just had the thought run through my brain:Â are we eventually going to discuss the proper use of the middle finger? Â No, no, no, it goes like this... Â Thumb, index finger, then middle finger. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
