Cosmologies - Split

[voidisyinyang]

1 hour ago, Apech said:

This is like saying that all sounds appear because of the soundless sound, are modalities of it.  If you superimpose all vibrational possibilities you get total destructive interference - that is the peaks and troughs cancel each other - and is this silence = the soundless sound.  The slightest disturbance of this equilibrium produces suddenly all variety of vibrations - or you could say for a single note to be produced all other notes have to be suppressed.  So it is not creation from nothing - but creation from the soundless sound which is the void.  The full void or plenum.

 

yes that Pdf I linked based on Dawei's terms - it discusses music as the Dao.

So the thing to realize is that only in Western tuning is there this idea of a "symmetric" cancellation into zero silence - which is a straight line on an oscilloscope - as two "real" numbers. So actually real numbers were "created" from music theory in the WEst based on the concept of the "continuum." The "continuum" is a deeply held cognitive bias in the West that we all learn by 10th grade in school - learning analytic geometric of irrational magnitude as real numbers. But these are logarithmic numbers that assume a symmetric negative infinity of zero as a materialistic idealism. In other words the continuum - as math professor Luigi Borzacchini points out - can not be perceived! It is a "process" of abstract thinking as the ideology of science - and so math claims to be pure, but as Borzcchini points out, Western math is actually a "deep pre-established disharmony."

 

So the Daoist music is not this symmetric cancellation of opposites but instead an inherent complementary opposites that is eternal motion - and this is the real taiji as wuji reality. In cosmology - the "center" of the circle was considered to be the pole star but at the same time Daoists stated the pole star is not the cosmic origin which has no center. So the taiji is then inherent to the original energy-information that is formless. there is no "cancellation" into nothingness - it is more like the quantum vacuum that inherently is not empty - but as qigong master Yan Xin states, is the "virtual information field" that does the healing. So the Emptiness is a spacetime vortex that enables precognition and harmonization - from the future - and it is always secretly guiding the present - as the secret origin of light, from the future.

 

So actually in Western math - it is called "noncommutative phase" - so at each zero point in space, there is actually the future and past interwove as a nonlocal process - as math professor Alain Connes says, music theory is a "universal scaling system." So he says music has a geometric dimension of zero as (2, 3, infinity) the triple spectral (frequency) origin of reality. This means that the perceived Pitch is the 5th dimension - the Perfect Fifth is the subharmonic C to F as 2/3 and then overtone harmonic C to G as 3/2 - at the same time, as infinity since 2 does not go into 3, at each zero point in space. So we can not see this energy but we can listen to it or logically infer it. And so the Daoists call it the "undivided yin-yang" as "yuan qi" which is the source of spirit, the Mother of spirit is the qi - and so it can not be seen, like the womb in darkness.

 

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I feel that the past, and the present and the future is all in one state. They’re operating at different frequency levels. It isn’t the past here, the present here and the future here. We are all at one state. The past, present and future are all here. That’s why some people have deja vu….

 

– Qigong Grandmaster Effie P. Chow

 

So that is this 5th dimension - the Emptiness actually is the "golden key" as "superluminal" yin matter - that restores the Yuan Jing - through the yuan qi as the eternal present energy that is experienced through the yuan shen.

[Michael Sternbach]

22 hours ago, Jeff said:

 

December 18, 2017
by Glenn Roberts Jr., Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory

When scientists recorded a rippling in space-time, followed within two seconds by an associated burst of light observed by dozens of telescopes around the globe, they had witnessed, for the first time, the explosive collision and merger of two neutron stars.

 

The intense cosmological event observed on Aug. 17 also had other reverberations here on Earth: It ruled out a class of dark energy theories that modify gravity, and challenged a large class of theories.

 

https://m.phys.org/news/2017-12-star-mergers-gravity-dark-energy.html

 

 

Here is another, more detailed article about the implications of this neutron star merger observation:

 

https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.06168v2

 

Quoting the abstract:

 

We point out that this simultaneous detection of GW and EM signals rules out a class of modified gravity theories, termed ``dark matter emulators,'' which dispense with the need for dark matter by making ordinary matter couple to a different metric from that of GW. 

 

In other words, the observation actually lends evidence to the existence of dark matter!

 

Bottom line: There are different theories regarding the nature of Dark Matter and the observed acceleration of cosmic expansion respectively, some being refuted in the light of new evidence (which is just the normal process of science), but few contemporary cosmologists (and none of the ones you quoted) question the reality of the Big Bang as such.

 

BTW, I used to be a sceptic myself for several years, but I eventually decided that it is the explanation that makes most sense. Especially with the more recent modifications suggested by Roger Penrose (one of the original advocates of the Big Bang) and in terms of the metaphysical philosophies that emphasize the cyclic nature of all phenomena (such as Hinduism, Daoism and Hermetism).

 

But I keep myself open to any arguments in favour of a yet more reasonable explanation of how the universe came into existence. Just I haven't seen any so far.

[Starjumper]

 

 

[Starjumper]

Opposing viewpoint:

 

 

[voidisyinyang]

3 hours ago, Michael Sternbach said:

 

Especially with the more recent modifications suggested by Roger Penrose (one of the original advocates of the Big Bang) and in terms of the metaphysical philosophies that emphasize the cyclic nature of all phenomena (such as Hinduism, Daoism and Hermetism).

 

But I keep myself open to any arguments in favour of a yet more reasonable explanation of how the universe came into existence. Just I haven't seen any so far.

 

Penrose has stated that for the Big Bang to have happened - time had to be very asymmetric.

The role of time in physics is key - as Lee Smolin points out. Thus far science has tried to dismiss time - to "zero" it out as an outside parameter, and then to claim that time is just symmetric and reversible.

Penrose now emphasizes a quantum proto-consciousness source based on noncommutative phase as the origin of time - a 5th dimension.

Penrose also emphasizes this proto-consciousness is inside each of us - and so is accessed through the microtubules that he and Dr. Stuart Hameroff teamed up

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As proved by Hawking, had the Universe's entropy increased been reversed, this reversal would be impossible to observe. This is because time orientation of all biological processes (as we show elsewhere in detail) relies solely on entropy's increase.

Avshalom C. Elitzur, Shahar Dolev
Black-Hole Uncertainty Entails An Intrinsic Time Arrow, Dec. 2000

So this is what I call the "Strong Misanthropic Principle" as a joke on the claims of "fine tuning" - there is a direct inverse proportion to the "fine tuning" of the Universe in relation to the ecological and social justice crisis on Earth. We are accelerating time into a zero point of space on Earth as we observe the acceleration of the space of the Universe with the slowing down of time into a 5D blackhole.

 

Jack Sarfatti is not the only one to argue that we are looking at our own future when we stare deep into space - like John Wheeler's idea as well - that quantum entanglement literally changes how we observe the universe. A Harvard physicist STrominger agrees with this view.

 

http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com/2017/05/holographic-time-and-black-holes-as.html

 

potential mass or imaginary mass that stores the information of the energy, but inside the black hole as an entangled storage with the energy outside that it sent off into a logarithmic singularity as infinity of spacetime.

 

And astrophysics professor Paul S. WEsson said this explains spiritual abilities.

And so similarly the Delayed Choice Experiment devised first by John Wheeler was actually conceptualized by Olivier Costa de Beauregard who believed in precognition and telekinesis - and the experiment has proven that for light, a single photon can be entangled with a quantum potential wave from the future, that can affect the photon and change the photon in the past, until the photon itself is collapsed by measurement.

Again the only way this can be understood is that taking a measurement is based on left-brain dominance as entropic linear time due to relativity, whereas the photon, from its own perspective, while it is moving, (has momentum), exists in no spatial location, but rather as non-local noncommutative phase space. This can be interfered with by the scientist doing the experiment who has not made the measurement yet, instead is just "observing" with no collapse. So this is considered the "Strong" Copenhagen Interpretation that nothing exists until the quantum physicist actually changes reality itself. But in fact the pilot wave is already there from the perspective of the "particle" as Dr. Ruth E. Kastner and others emphasize.

http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com/2018/02/why-classical-physics-continues-to-deny.html

 

So the key point here is that according to science - or most science - we can not observe the reverse of entropy because biology is dependent on entropy. But quantum biology has proven this is not true - and we access quantum biology through meditation as vibration or acoustic phase resonance.  Here is Professor Paul S. Wesson:

 

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One characteristic property of de Broglie waves is that the product of their phase velocity and group velocity is equal to the square of the speed of light, where the group velocity is identified with the speed of the associated particle.

a “wavicle” is two simultaneous realizations of flat space, one with waves and one without.
From the viewpoint of 5D field theory, waves of de Broglie type have to be considered real.
 
So in 5D all particles behave like photons and everything in the universe is in causal contact with everything else.

an oscillatory phase, which might (if a person is so inclined) be identified with… spiritual modes of existence…separation between points is zero, so all of the events in the world are in (5D) causal contact. In other words, everything is occurring simultaneously.

There is no plausible way to avoid the conclusion that particles which can be seen moving at speeds less than c should be accompanied by waves which cannot be seen and are moving at speeds greater than c.

de Broglie waves are better understood in 5D

…characteristic of inflationary cosmology…its 5D complex generalization…as a model for de Broglie waves.

a null interval admits, in a formal sense, velocities in 3D which exceed lightspeed.

a particle not as a point but a tiny ball of trapped waves.

some of it verging on the mystical.

De Broglie waves follow automatically when the expressions for the energy of a particle [E=mc squared] and a wave [E=Planck’s Constant multipled by frequency] are combined.

This, admittedly, sounds strange.

Whether one believes in a model like this that straddles physics and spirituality is up to the individual…. However it is remarkable that such a model can even be formulated, bridging as it does realms of experience which traditionally have been viewed as immutably separate.

 

And so those who believe in the "multiverse" - people need to realize that the concept of the multiverse was created by professor

quantum cosmologist professor Andrei Linde

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If you did not have normal matter then you do not have it after inflation, unless you know how to produce it. Usually you produce equal numbers of particles and antiparticles. But you need just a little more of particles and they form the basis of our life. This process of the creation of matter is impossible without quantum mechanics. You know that there exists the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle and one of its formulation is delta E [change of frequency] multiplied by delta T [change of time] is comparable with the Planck's Constant. So if you violate energy conservation law, but do it quickly, then nobody can catch your hand and say you violated the energy conservation.

And so the whole physical 4D universe is created as a 5D "phase shift" from time-frequency uncertainty. But science is dependent on using light for measurement - as the "measurement problem" of quantum physics whereas in meditation we rely on listening that is faster than any linear spatial measurement of time - so we can bypass the "measurement problem" or the time-frequency uncertainty. Instead we can resonate with the 5th dimension directly. This is called "capturing virtual photons" - it is already done in the lab using the Josephson Junction as a superconducting phase coherence. I have corresponded with Nobel physicist Brian Josephson about this - he also practices qigong meditation. Josephson thanked me for sending him this quote:

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  "...superconductivity within one neuron could become phase coherent with that in an adjoining cell by virtue of quantum tunnelling, and this could be stimulated by the macroscopic analog of stimulated emission (alluded to before in connection with the mantra), that is an AC Josephson effect. ...At a more interesting level, the quantum vacuum state may be said to be empty (of excitation) and yet full in the sense of pure potentiality; it contains "virtual" (unphysical) representatives of all possible modes of matter and excitation in the form of vacuum fluctuations or "virtual particles" (zero-point excitations of each field mode, assigned one-half quanta of energy, due directly to the non-commutative property of the field operators)." 

Former Hampshire College physicist Lawrence Domash, confirms superluminal quantum sound as noncommutative meditation! 1975, pdf

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[wandelaar]

@ voidisyinyang

 

Physics is already difficult enough, why do you make it completely incomprehensible by using unreadable sentences?

[voidisyinyang]

3 hours ago, wandelaar said:

@ voidisyinyang

 

Physics is already difficult enough, why do you make it completely incomprehensible by using unreadable sentences?

 

I compiled a playlist on quantum nonlocality as that is the foundation of reality as per science - although even most physicists do not acknowledge it! haha. Yeah Daoism is not Western physics since relativity assumes symmetric based math. So quantum relativity delves into asymmetric or noncommutative phase math. But that is still left-brain dominant and so is still limited. Quantum biology recognizes proto-consciousness that is accessed through biophotons - in meditation. So I'm glad Sir Roger Penrose has delved into quantum biology. So has Dr. Ruth Kastner, with whom I've corresponded - also Lee Smolin - he took his first quantum physics class from the same professor I took my first physics class from - Herbert J. Bernstein. So Bernstein emphasized everyone should take quantum mechanics as their first physics class since it's the foundation of physics. So I never took classical physics in high school since I knew the math was wrong  - due to my music theory training. haha. That's the problem - people still take classical physics first in high school and so their brain gets hard-wired the wrong way and so it is mass mind control based on the wrong math. Professor Basil J. Hiley, with whom I've corresponds, emphasizes that most quantum physicists are still in denial about quantum nonlocality as protoconsciousness, the foundation of reality. He collaborated with David Bohm - and Hiley now also works on noncommutative phase physics - so the calculus has to include reverse time from the future! haha. But again that is still left brain dominant and so limited. I took biology in high school and then scored 98% in biology on the ACT - so then a third of my college classes where in biology and my master's degree focused on sustainable policy and philosophy. Nobel Physicist Brian Josephson now also considers biology to be more fundamental than physics - as does medical doctor Robert Lanza. I corresponded with Josephson several times over the years - yes he really does practice qigong! haha. He got "disinvited" from a de Broglie-Bohm physics conference because all the young physicists thought they would lose their jobs for even just being at the same conference as him! haha. Why? Because Josephson thinks paranormal abilities are real, that's why. Oops.

 

 

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[Starjumper]

3 hours ago, wandelaar said:

Physics is already difficult enough, why do you make it completely incomprehensible by using unreadable sentences?

 

He appears to be improving, but ... I got a 99 percentile in ACT college physics when I was a sophomore in high school and I can't understand what he's saying either because I'm not familiar with all the terms and the way he puts them together makes it even more difficult.  Maybe he doesn't actually want us to understand.  I suggest that you, Drew, try to communicate in layman's terms in shorter posts.

 

In the mean time I offer this similar viewpoint expressed by my buddy Sad Guru, which is also not comprehensible because there is no scientific evidence to back it up, although I know my chi kung teacher was one of those who could see the future as described in the video, which indicates some truth being spoken of here:

 

 

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[wandelaar]

@ Starjumper

 

I don't understand much of the video you posted, but it at least shows how one should present a difficult subject.

 

However our relativistic physics is a century old now and has empirical backing, and thus can hardly be considered an unsubstantial fashion that will soon be forgotten in one generation.

[Starjumper]

29 minutes ago, wandelaar said:

However our relativistic physics is a century old now and has empirical backing, and thus can hardly be considered an unsubstantial fashion that will soon be forgotten in one generation.

 

There is that, and a few other things.  I do not accept 5D!  I don't even accept the view of time as being a fourth dimension, there are three dimensions and time is not a dimension.  The term non-locality is lunacy.  WTF is non-locality?  Either something is over here (local) or it's over there, or it's everywhere, or it doesn't exists. So instead of using idiotic terms like non-locality they could say over there or everywhere, but no, they want to appear wise and educated, but most of all they want to 'appear' as being intellectually superior.  Sadhguru is able to talk about a difficult subject without using meaningless nonsense words.

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[wandelaar]

@ Starjumper

 

I'm afraid it is not that simple. Physicists didn't accept the strange non-local aspects of quantum mechanics just "to 'appear' as being intellectually superior". No - simple explanations are always preferred. Physicists first resisted non-locality like anyone else and tried to explain quantum phenomena in a classical way based on how we know things in the macroscopic world to behave. Only when that failed did they hesitatingly try out other "weird" approaches.

[Starjumper]

OK, you made me look up non locality.  Maybe I'm too old and have let my exploration of physics go by the wayside, but I still do not like the term nonlocality.  Why don't they just say it in simple English, like "action at a distance", which is what it refers to?

[Starjumper]

My own personal exploration of physics has switched over to the the Sad Guru way from the Western way.

[wandelaar]

The weirdness of quantum mechanics does not reside in the fancy names, complex mathematics or scientific interpretations, but in the phenomena themselves. See:

 

 

 

[Starjumper]

Yes, I've seen that before, the weirdness seems to be a bottomless pit, thanks for finding that video for me.

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[KuroShiro]

Another one

 

 

[voidisyinyang]

Quantum physicist Yakir Aharonov:
 

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I'm saying that I have now an intuitive picture to understand interference by saying that when a particle moves through two slits, it always goes through one slit or the other, but it knows which other slit, the slit through which it did not go, whether it is open or not, because there are nonlocal equations of motion.

yes Professor Herbert Bernstein did experiments with Anton Zeilinger and they published together.

Bell theorem without inequalities for two spinless particles

Herbert J. Bernstein, Daniel M. Greenberger, Michael A. Horne, and Anton Zeilinger

Phys. Rev. A 47, 78 – Published 1 January 1993

https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.47.78

They both take a "strong" Copenhagen interpretation - which is to say that the quantum physicists themselves are actually changing the foundation of reality - as they do the experiments. This is similar to Daoist alchemy - there is an actual change in the Emptiness through meditation.

If you read the comments to those vids - people want to think the "detector" is somehow interfering - what the Aharonov-Bohm experiment proved is that even if you have zero energy there can still be a nonlocal field that interferes with the electron. And then the Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser double split experiment proved this also.

The other thing to realize is this proto-consciousness is not affected by distance - so Professor Bernstein designed quantum telepathy that is now being tested by NASA. So you have quantum entanglement. Then you send the separation into outerspace - and then if you interfere with one half of the entanglement - the other one will change instantaneously.

But the other factor - that Sir Roger Penrose emphasizes is that he argues it is gravity or spacetime itself that causes an "objective" collapse of the entanglement. But the thing to realize about gravity - it is a construct of Western mathematics. Yes gravity "works" but at the expense of "entropy" - as I posted above. So this is why I call it the Strong Misanthropic Principle. In other words - physicists ignore the ecological crisis and social justice crisis as being a symptom of the symmetric logarithmic mathematics that is the basis of gravity.

Quantum Relativity Physics Professor Ivette Fuentes (Q+ youtube chat answer to question at end of talk, 2013):

 

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How some certain symmetries in your physics, when you break the symmetries, you create a resource, for example entanglement. So that is something super new that we want to do and is very interesting. If you move along a time-like, ...observer that is inertial or uniformly accelerated, you don't change the entanglement. Entanglement changes when you break that symmetry, ...symmetry of your spacetime. So when you break that symmetry you create a resource. And I think this is a completely new idea....there is curvature of space at a few centimeters.

So in Daoist alchemy - this is the equivalent of surrounding the Shen or Spirit with the Qi - so if you don't have the spirit powered by and surrounded by qi then the shen experiences the dizziness of the spacetime vortex - of the curvature of spacetime as general relativity. But the point being that instead the math of Daoist alchemy is based on asymmetry - not the symmetric of gravity. So the symmetry is "broken" already and stays broken as the entanglement - as macroquantum entanglement which is actually negentropic energy or reverse time superluminal momentum. This is then the "golden key" or "yin matter" that qigong master  Yan Xin calls the "virtual information field" that does the healing. So from the perspective of the light - things are invariant and so happen still with relativistic linear causation - one spirit after another is created to do healing. But from the perspective of the Yuan Qi or the Cosmic Mother - then this is the quantum entanglement 5th dimension with everything happening at the same time. But from the perspective of the Yuan Jing - this is the "yin matter" that is antimatter captured into a new spacetime that has been transformed - or negentropic matter from the future.

 

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In other words the electromagnetic potential gives rise to Aharonov-Bohm Effect through changing the metric of the space-time. This is the reason why the localized magnetic field can influence the behavior of the charged particles in the region where there is no field at all, i.e., even if there is no magnetic field acting on them at all.

Only the phase gradient may produce a spontaneous current.

 

Dr. He, Jian-E physicist at Wuhan University

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This experiment shows that the extra dimension plays an important role as holographic screen to give the Aharonov-Bohm Effect and gravity-induced phase shift at the same time.

 

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[wandelaar]

I don't like the strangeness of quantum mechanics myself, and neither did Einstein. But if we are to acknowledge reality as it is we have to accept it.