LAOLONG Posted May 17, 2018 י ת א ש ב ר ג ק ד צ ה פ ו ע ז ס ח נ ט מ כ ל Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted May 17, 2018 Um.... My brain hurts. I'm sorry, but I can't go there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kar3n Posted May 17, 2018 The title is translated as a fire in the beginning. The post... Quote A a fire B Jack D F. And p S H I All It would be nice if these types of posts were translated and some commentary were added to point out what is to be discussed. I am moving this is the rabbit hole. Fire in the title and written in Hebrew does not make it esoteric. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kar3n said: rabbit hole. Fire in the title and written in Hebrew Needs a new category, like "The Rabbi Hole" or 'Fire in the hole", just saying... Edited May 17, 2018 by Taoist Texts 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted May 17, 2018 Dawei might consider something like "The Trash Can". But maybe my expectations are unreal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted May 17, 2018 20 hours ago, LUCIA PHIER said: י ת א ש ב ר ג ק ד צ ה פ ו ע ז ס ח נ ט מ כ ל Lois meets Lucia Phier ; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted May 17, 2018 I particularly like the Qlippothic Tau attribution of the turtle getting electroshock treatment 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted May 17, 2018 Okay. Does that indicate that it is going to rain today? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAOLONG Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Kar3n said: The title is translated as a fire in the beginning. The post... It would be nice if these types of posts were translated and some commentary were added to point out what is to be discussed. I am moving this is the rabbit hole. Fire in the title and written in Hebrew does not make it esoteric. Dear Karen The title is the first word in the Book of genesis and it contain The word fire. Actually the 4 Ancient elements ,fire water ground wind are in The two beginning sentence of the book of genesis in Hebrew . Edited May 17, 2018 by LUCIA PHIER 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted May 18, 2018 cause I luv that song 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted May 18, 2018 Beautiful calligraphy. What is it saying? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted May 18, 2018 Alright .... I wasnt going to do this but you forced my hand ; 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted May 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Marblehead said: Beautiful calligraphy. What is it saying? It's written in the Elven script and language invented by JRR Tolkien as one of the support structures/spin off content from the world he created for The Lord of the Rings saga. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAOLONG Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) The beginning of genesis. בראשית (in the beginning (it contain the word אש fire)) ברא (create ex nihilo )אלהים (god) את השמים (the Sky (שמים sky contain the word מים water) ואת הארץ (and the earth) והארץ היתה תוהו ובוהו (the earth was in chaos ) וחשך על פני תהום (and darkness upon abyss ) ורוח ( and wind) אלהים( of god) (meaning spirt of god) על פני(on surface ) המים (the water ) Edited May 19, 2018 by LUCIA PHIER 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAOLONG Posted May 19, 2018 אש Fire ארץ רוח Wind earth מים Water Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted May 19, 2018 Sorry, I be quiet insistent in this and have many posts here on the theory ; First MUST come AIR the 'polarised' force (/s) it regulates are the obvious 'opposition' of FIRE and WATER and this relationship of all three 'gives' EARTH I got a zillion example / demonstrations of it , mostly in nature ( but maybe not in archaic Jewish scripture ) here is one ... start with the obvious polarity ; WEAK FORCE STRONG FORCE 'regulated/ mediated' by ELECTROMAGNETIC FORCE (or 'charge' if you like) gives GRAVITY ; EMF SF WF G https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted May 19, 2018 But what you seem to be suggesting is an elemental arrangement after creation. that is, the normal elemental arrangement of when the 4 are stabilised . and how the 4 elements make up the material world ( really a further subdivision of 'earth' , being ; FIRE WATER AIR EARTH looking at elemental attributions we get Yod He Vau He (final) The 'father' impregnates the 'mother ' to give first (hopefully) a Son and after a daughter. A typical patriarchal cultural arrangement and not really based on nature . also you need to take into account higher and lower air ... lower as in air elemental , higher as in 'breath of God' , 'spirit' , 'pneuma ' , etc , actually 'first air' or 'spirit' , so we have ; AIR FIRE WATER (primal or ideal triangle) EARTH made up of FIRE WATER AIR EARTH ..... you know, how "malkuth' / 'earth' is often depicted ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneuma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAOLONG Posted May 19, 2018 I only tried to put the 4 elements In a CROSS structure . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAOLONG Posted May 19, 2018 LikeThe Chinese cross of 5 elements Fire South Red Wind /tree earth metal East center west Green yellow white Water North Blue / black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, LUCIA PHIER said: I only tried to put the 4 elements In a CROSS structure . Yes, it was a good try, just needed some rearranging ..... to make it usable and contain knowledge .... instead of just randomly playing with it . Or was that an arrangement of the elements of the zodiac signs ? That is sometimes a system used Edited May 20, 2018 by Nungali Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, LUCIA PHIER said: LikeThe Chinese cross of 5 elements Fire South Red Wind /tree earth metal East center west Green yellow white Water North Blue / black Now you have introduced 'elemental directions' . In the western system they are most commonly ; W - water, S - fire, E - air , N - earth . This is an hermetic arrangement inherited from Judaism and comes from the concept of the qualities of the 4 winds . It comes from location; Israel having water to the west, heat, the path of the Sun and aridity to the south .... and so on . I dont know why the Chinese arranged their system that way. Here it is water to east (Pacific Ocean ) , Earth to the west (Australian Continent ) , fire to north ( path of sun and higher temperatures) and air to south ( strong southerly winds ) . The seasonal cycles follow a progression too fire water earth air ( summer followed by wet season, followed by a dry winter followed by strong windy season that begins spring) ...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ga_M5Zdn4 Edited May 20, 2018 by Nungali Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lois Posted May 21, 2018 On 19.05.2018 at 3:49 AM, LUCIA PHIER said: The beginning of genesis. בראשית (in the beginning (it contain the word אש fire)) ברא (create ex nihilo )אלהים (god) את השמים (the Sky (שמים sky contain the word מים water) ואת הארץ (and the earth) והארץ היתה תוהו ובוהו (the earth was in chaos ) וחשך על פני תהום (and darkness upon abyss ) ורוח ( and wind) אלהים( of god) (meaning spirt of god) על פני(on surface ) המים (the water ) The Jews are not engaged in missionary work 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
