Limahong Posted June 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, Marblehead said: Some of us never appreciate the water that was in the well until after the well has gone dry Hi Dada-da, Good night - dry/wet dreams. - LimA 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alchemical Walrus Posted June 29, 2018 19 hours ago, Nathan Brine said: What do you guys/girls think about the traditional Chinese view that a Taoist is anyone who is working as a Taoist? It's vocational instead of philosophical. For example running a Taoist shrine would make you a Taoist. The folks showing up to offer incense or mediate would not be considered Taoist, no matter how into it they are. I think it's just a matter of linguistics. In other societies people seem to think it is important to assign a label to your philosophical or spiritual beliefs. Initially in Taoism, there wasn't really that sort of thing, so when people who hold those beliefs enter societies where labels are important, the word "Taoist" is adopted to try to gain a label, even if that label originally was a title designating clergymen rather than all believers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Alchemical Walrus said: I think it's just a matter of linguistics. Hi Alchemical Walrus, Yes. But wordless Taoism speaks volumes. I am going speechless - time to sleep. - LimA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Lost in Translation said: We're there any political reasons at that time where calling oneself a Taoist would have been unwise? No) Li Daochun 李道純, styled (zi 字) Yuansu 元素 (Primordial Plainness), assumed the literary name (hao 號) Qing’an 清庵 (Pure Retreat) and the second literary name (biehao 別號) Yingchan zi 瑩蟾子 (Master Lustrous Moon). No fixed dates are available to demark his lifespan but it is generally agreed that he flourished 1280‑1290 or 1264‑1294 (Qing 1988, 364). There also appears to be a measure of uncertainty concerning his native district. Some indicate Yizhen 儀真 in Jiangsu, also known as Zhenchuan 真川 during the Yuan (Diming dacidian 1146) and located on the north shore of the Yangzi river roughly thirty kilometers upriver from Nanjing. Others point to Duliang 都梁, northeast of Wugang 武岡 in Hunan. 3 Each of the six juan of the Zhonghe ji 中和集 (Anthology on the Center and Harmony; HY 248, CT 248) opens by referring to Li as a native of Duliang, while the preface to YCYL also mentions that he once visited Mount Mao in southwestern Jiangsu. 4 Further details of Li Daochun’s life are sparse. 4 Isabelle Robinet ads that he was abbot of Changsheng guan 長生館 (Abbey of Long Life) in Yizhen 儀真 ( Jiangsu) and a priest in Xuyi 盱眙 (Jiangsu) (in Pregadio 2008, 634). /Nature, Motion, and Stillness Li Daochun’s Vision of the Three Teachings PAUL CROWE/ Edited June 29, 2018 by Taoist Texts 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted June 29, 2018 12 hours ago, Marblehead said: Racist! Yes) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 3, 2018 On 6/20/2018 at 12:39 AM, Lost in Translation said: What does a Daoist do? What are the defining events that make a Daoist, well, a Daoist? Hi Lost in Translation, What (or who) is not a Daoist? - LimA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) On 7/4/2018 at 5:29 AM, Limahong said: What (or who) is not a Daoist? Hi All, I turn the above question around thus - Taoism is Nature per se. Yes/no? - LimA Edited July 5, 2018 by Limahong Enhance ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Limahong said: Hi All, I turn the above question around thus - Taoism is Nature per se. Yes/no? - LimA Yes. In my opinion, Taoism is about following the Way of Nature. This applies to all things of the Manifest, including us. Tzujan is always an important concept in my mind when speaking of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Marblehead said: Tzujan Hi Dada-da, What is it? - LimA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Limahong said: Hi Dada-da, What is it? - LimA It's magic. Hang on. I will get a short efficient definition for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 5, 2018 Tzujan is commonly translated as "nature". It is, however, not the nature of the physical world, but is the spiritual naturalness. Tzujan is the primordial unperturbed process of self-development. It is the state of Oneness. Self-so. Spontaneity. Naturally so. With no apparent reason. - Wayne L. Wang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Marblehead said: Tzujan is the primordial unperturbed process of self-development. Hi Dada-da, Thank you. - LimA Edited July 5, 2018 by Limahong Enhance ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites