Aletheia Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) edit: I'm going to try and do a media fast for a week or so. Edited June 21, 2018 by Aletheia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 21, 2018 I spend far too much time with this BS when I should really be meditating etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 21, 2018 should be able to delete threads like this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 21, 2018 But you only re-enforce your own opinions and ego when you are meditating because, Hey!, you have to be right because the thought came to your mind. Better to stay active here so we can, now and then, remind you that you are oftentimes wrong. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 22, 2018 10 hours ago, Marblehead said: But you only re-enforce your own opinions and ego when you are meditating because, Hey!, you have to be right because the thought came to your mind. If you believe in an ego you will also have emotional problems, it's kind of self-reenforcing loop. I don't believe in an ego and I don't have emotional problems. And I am right about Ken Wilber, he thinks he's more "grown up" than all the saints, gurus, qigong masters, shaman etc in the history of the world. Never mind that his whole system has a visual bias and he has no qi, plus what he takes for wisdom is actually what in philosophy is called nihilism. He deserves to be critiqued. And that guy drew just wrote a post about he said to me that I was too stupid to understand qigong. I go around the internet offering to help people and all I get in return is abuse and insults. I can take it no problem, and I'm just some guy in my bedroom. I don't claim to know much of anything. Wilber and that coon guy are both paid teachers... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted June 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Aletheia said: If you believe in an ego you will also have emotional problems, it's kind of self-reenforcing loop. I don't believe in an ego and I don't have emotional problems. I have no knowledge of any other threads you refer to. I can only talk to your ego comment. It is an act of supreme ego to believe you can have no ego. IMHO it's best to work on accepting your ego and learning to be compassionate to yourself. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 22, 2018 Okay just to be clear this is the guy who said I am too unintelligent for qigong - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 22, 2018 Yes really this is the world we're living in HAHAHAHAHAH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said: IMHO it's best to work on accepting your ego and learning to be compassionate to yourself. I am compassionate to myself. I watched a youtube video the other day about "the rice experiment." Negative emotions are unhealthy -- not something I can afford to impose on myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted June 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, Aletheia said: If you believe in an ego you will also have emotional problems, it's kind of self-reenforcing loop. I don't believe in an ego and I don't have emotional problems. Says the egomaniac. 27 minutes ago, Aletheia said: And that guy drew just wrote a post about he said to me that I was too stupid to understand qigong. Haha, rejected by your own guru who you worship. Drew just grew a couple of notches in my estimation. He's right you know. 27 minutes ago, Aletheia said: I go around the internet offering to help people and all I get in return is abuse and insults. I can take it no problem, and I'm just some guy in my bedroom. Poor widdle helper, I didn't know bragging about one's self was such a great help to others. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said: I have no knowledge of any other threads you refer to. Ken Wilber is making the claim that his spiritual system is the most grown up and evolved the world has known. The analogy would be fat boys training more to become (very mediocre at best) athletes, so those extra hours in the sauna losing fat add up and according to Wilber's reckoning make his system best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Starjumper said: Haha, rejected by your own guru who you worship. Okay, the guy drew just outed as a fake is the same person who said I was unintelligent. I'm not sure I can make it any simpler than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) Edited June 22, 2018 by Starjumper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 22, 2018 When it comes down to it my qigong progress is pretty good. Not many people can say the same. Or at least they're not willing to bet their house on their abilities. I am open and honest. For whatever reason a lot of people here only want to play pretend games, tell jokes and socialise. I'm not playing pretend. I'm not cheating myself. I'm not a faker. I hardly ever comment negatively, but Wilber is so far up his own ass it's ridiculous and that coon guy is insulting. And I don't believe in egos other than as silly illusions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aletheia said: And that guy drew just wrote a post about he said to me that I was too stupid to understand qigong. 1 hour ago, Aletheia said: Okay just to be clear this is the guy who said I am too unintelligent for qigong - OK, now I see what you are referring to. Your inexact writing made me think that Drew said you were too stupid to understand chi kung. However if Drew says that guy is a fake then I would believe the guy in the video over Drew. I was so taken by the idea of you two fools rejecting each other that I couldn't read straight. Edited June 22, 2018 by Starjumper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Aletheia said: When it comes down to it my qigong progress is pretty good. Not many people can say the same. A lot of people can and do say the same. However the ones who don't say it or even think about it are often faster. What's the rush anyway? 9 minutes ago, Aletheia said: Or at least they're not willing to bet their house on their abilities. Not a very wise thing to do for people who underestimate their enemies. You say you don't believe in ego but you manifest it greatly. To compete against strangers and bet your house on it is a supreme act of ego, and a great folly ... unless your house is worthless and you don't like it. Edited June 22, 2018 by Starjumper 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted June 22, 2018 These are the different levels of development in chi kung. On the left are average number of years per level in the middle are the levels described in theTai chi classics, on the right are the corresponding ego levels from the book "The Way of Qigong". 0 - 4 yrs - Beginner - Great Expert 4 - 10 yrs - Expert - Big Potato 10 - 30 yrs - Adept - Banana Head 30 - 50 yrs - Master - Nothing Special Aletheia can be seen clearly to be at the first level. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudfoot Posted June 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Aletheia said: Okay, the guy drew just outed as a fake is the same person who said I was unintelligent. I'm not sure I can make it any simpler than that. You might start with looking at the three youtube clips that drew used as a base for his thread. And then watch drew build a straw man...... This is not the same as being "outed as a fake". Hope you can see this. Now, if he said you were unintelligent without having you do an IQ test, obviously he was unaccurate. Or just insulting you.... 😁 In which context was this? Maybe he ment something else, like you displayed a behaviour? Rash? Rigid? Stupid? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Aletheia said: If you believe in an ego you will also have emotional problems, it's kind of self-reenforcing loop. I don't believe in an ego and I don't have emotional problems. Oh, I believe in ego. Define: One's opinion of one's worth (value). And I have no ego problems. I know that I am useless and that's exactly hw I want it to be. 8 hours ago, Aletheia said: And I am right about Ken Wilber, he thinks he's more "grown up" than all the saints, gurus, qigong masters, shaman etc in the history of the world. Never mind that his whole system has a visual bias and he has no qi, plus what he takes for wisdom is actually what in philosophy is called nihilism. He deserves to be critiqued. I am opposed to nihilistic thinking. It only makes one's problems more complicated. 8 hours ago, Aletheia said: And that guy drew just wrote a post about he said to me that I was too stupid to understand qigong. Yeah, Drew has a very healthy ego. Always willing to tell anyone his truths. 8 hours ago, Aletheia said: I go around the internet offering to help people and all I get in return is abuse and insults. I can take it no problem, and I'm just some guy in my bedroom. I don't claim to know much of anything. Wilber and that coon guy are both paid teachers... I hear you. But keep in mind, there are many silent members here and it's hard telling how many people you have helped or pointed in a more constructive direction. The abuse and insults are a result of you being competition to others who don't want you taking any followers away from them. If you feel you have something to share that could possibly help others then please, share. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted June 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Mudfoot said: You might start with looking at the three youtube clips that drew used as a base for his thread. And then watch drew build a straw man...... This is not the same as being "outed as a fake". Hope you can see this. Which thread is this that you are referring to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 22, 2018 Well if drew is building strawmans I'd go with it because last time I checked I had massive warm magnetic fields with fizzing static vortices around my body and electric energy coming out of my dan tien like forked lightening and can shock my palm with sword fingers when I tense my dan tien. COME ON GUYS WAKE THE FUCK UP!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kar3n Posted June 22, 2018 Nope, no ego here... How long will it take for the straw man's bindings to unravel? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) The ego creates interiors, like you are inside your head, and thinks in linear time. If you realise that linear time is an illusion then interiors and ideas about distance and place begin to break down too. So you have to first get out of thinking linear time is real time because it's most certainly not! So we reach out into the future and retain what is past to make present the clearing of the now. Successive now points on a time-line, past/present/future, as a visual metaphor is pure abstraction, its not really how the concrete world actually is. Edited June 22, 2018 by Aletheia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aletheia Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) edit see next post! Edited June 22, 2018 by Aletheia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
