About Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality

[andrew1139]

I'm about to get this book and I really want other's opinion about the information inside. How truthfull is it. Does it correspond with other books about similar teachings?

[Cheshire Cat]

Do you want to hear about the wonders of that book or the phallacies of its philosophy? 

[zerostao]

Since you asked for an opinion, mine is if it does work and it could but I doubt it works in one (or several) lifetimes.

There will be bums come here and sing its praises, its their opinion as well because none of them have achieved what that book (claims to) offer.

The opinion is free, take it fwiw

[Taoist Texts]

2 hours ago, Cheshire Cat said:

or the phallacies of its philosophy? 

the phallacies , the phallacies !

 

1 hour ago, zerostao said:

 none of them have achieved what that book (claims to) offer.

may be one or two had....

[zerostao]

9 hours ago, Taoist Texts said:

may be one or two had....

may be one or two dao bums or may be one or two people that ever read the book and followed its practices (and had access to information not hidden by this book)?

 

 we are talking about this book? yes?

https://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Yoga-Kuan-Charles-Luk/dp/0877280673

which is translated by a Buddhist and not a Daoist

and I am not saying the book is worthless, it is written in a Q & A format and many of the Q's are not provided with A

if we read the countless threads on TDB regarding this book, it becomes clear this is a difficult book to endeavor

may be the OP start another thread and ask for book recommendations

[andrew1139]

19 minutes ago, zerostao said:

may be one or two dao bums or may be one or two people that ever read the book and followed its practices (and had access to information not hidden by this book)?

 

 we are talking about this book? yes?

https://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Yoga-Kuan-Charles-Luk/dp/0877280673

which is translated by a Buddhist and not a Daoist

and I am not saying the book is worthless, it is written in a Q & A format and many of the Q's are not provided with A

if we read the countless threads on TDB regarding this book, it becomes clear this is a difficult book to endeavor

may be the OP start another thread and ask for book recommendations

yeah...good idea

I really want to try and understand it, but in the end I may ask for other books about this subject

[LBDaoist]

I just posted on this earlier today.

 

 

[MIchael80]

The book is part of a  more complete manuscript so in the book is not the full method..

The school it comes from accepts students though.

this is the branch of the school in the netherlands: http://www.qianfeng.nl/

 

best

[andrew1139]

I started to understand the book better, but I have a question for someone who read it: what is the "inner fire" that continously appears in it? At the glossary it appears to be talking about some processes for the transmutation, but from what i saw until now, it is a force/energy in the body. Any ideas?

[voidisyinyang]

7 hours ago, andrew1139 said:

I started to understand the book better, but I have a question for someone who read it: what is the "inner fire" that continously appears in it? At the glossary it appears to be talking about some processes for the transmutation, but from what i saw until now, it is a force/energy in the body. Any ideas?

I blogged an answer for you - http://elixirfield.blogspot.com/2018/06/what-is-inner-fire-in-book-taoist-yoga.html

[andrew1139]

9 hours ago, voidisyinyang said:

I blogged an answer for you - http://elixirfield.blogspot.com/2018/06/what-is-inner-fire-in-book-taoist-yoga.html

While in the end I get that it is yang qi, there are many terms I dont understand. I guess, while it may be a good book, I at least need some background in internal alchemy to understand it better. So...any book that is good for a starter like me in this subject?

 

[voidisyinyang]

6 hours ago, andrew1139 said:

While in the end I get that it is yang qi, there are many terms I dont understand. I guess, while it may be a good book, I at least need some background in internal alchemy to understand it better. So...any book that is good for a starter like me in this subject?

 

The book is actually based on a 1615 book - and so when I discovered this - it helped clarify the Taoist Yoga book.

http://elixirfield.blogspot.com/2018/06/is-taoist-yoga-book-incomplete.html

I blogged on this yesterday - the link I give then discusses the context and background of the Taoist Yoga book....

http://qianfengdaoismuk.weebly.com/

So this is the direct lineage of that book Taoist Yoga.

http://neidanromania.proboards.com/thread/236

The 1615 book translated.

http://qianfengdaoismuk.weebly.com/how-the-xingming-gui-zhi-influenced-zhao-bichenrsquos-manual.html

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And so here is the discussion of how that 1615 book was the basis for the later book.

However, a close and careful reading of both manuals suggests that the latter was influenced by the former.  Zhao Bichen’s manual has become a highly influential text in its own right, but it shares many common features with the Xingming Gui Zhi.

 

So one was written in 1933, aka Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality and the other was written in  Yin Zhenren #|H)\. 1615. Xingming gui zhi sã fisłH (Leading to the Core of Life).

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Black Lead—the Water Tiger—is the root of the emission and development of Heaven and Earth.
Only then is there substance (zhi ) and qi.

Red Lead—the Fire Dragon—is the foundation of the emission and development of Heaven and Earth.
Only then is there qi and no substance.  ..............................................
 

 The whitesoul [hun] is produced in the Wood [i.e., the liver]; the cloudsoul [po] is born in Metal [i.e., the lungs].

 One qi initially differentiates then is ordered as the Two Polarities.