ernobe Posted July 17, 2018 Hi all, I joined in order to have access to the doc at Is it not available anymore, or do I need more points here to download it? It has to do with the system mentioned by Liu Yiming (and quoted by Thomas Cleary in "I Ching Mandalas") which relates the five virtues to the five element system. Apparently it goes back to the Bo Hu Tong of the second century A.D., which relates the Confucian virtues to the five element theory. Most explanations of Taoist alchemy that I've seen don't include much discussion of the five elements. I'm interested in knowing more about how the trigrams came to be associated with the elements historically, and my website at https://archive.org/services/purl/ernobe offers a method of interpreting the I-Ching based on new correlations. Roy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fa Xin Posted July 17, 2018 Hello, Ernobe, and welcome. Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go. Please take the time to read the post pinned at the top of this Welcome page and take a look at the forum Terms and Rules. This covers all you need to know when getting started. For the first week you will be restricted to ten posts per day but after that you can post as much as you like. Also, until you’ve posted fifteen times in the forums, you’ll be a “Junior Bum” with somewhat restricted access and will be allowed only two private messages per day. Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you, Fa Xin and the TDB team Welcome Roy, The file looks like its no longer available. I can’t view it either. Perhaps try sending a private message to the original poster of the file. Welcome to the forum. There’s lots of people around who will enjoy discussions of such theories and 5 elements etc. hope you enjoy. 😊 You are welcome to jump right in to the ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forum to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started. May you enjoy your time here. Fa Xin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 17, 2018 Hi Roy. Welcome. I wish I could help but I can't. Ask and ask. I'm sure someone knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernobe Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Marblehead said: Hi Roy. Welcome. I wish I could help but I can't. Ask and ask. I'm sure someone knows. That's the spirit. Asking and asking on forums is what usually gets me in hot water over my head. But, hey, Dao Zhen has the credentials to back him up so is probably used to it. Thanks to both of you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 18, 2018 Ah, getting over one's head is good practice in learning how to hold one's breath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeologyGeorge Posted July 18, 2018 Hello, Roy! Welcome to the forum! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernobe Posted July 19, 2018 21 hours ago, GeologyGeorge said: Hello, Roy! Welcome to the forum! A welcome from the latest member of the forum!!? I must be doing something right. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, ernobe said: A welcome from the latest member of the forum!!? I must be doing something right. Well, your membership request got approved. That's a good start. And yes, a welcome from another newbie is a good sign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted July 19, 2018 hmmn, that's the second mention of him in a few days. Maybe I can make up a best of Dao Zhen thread.. Wish he'd come back, the man knew a straight line from a curve. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
