Limahong Posted July 23, 2018 18 hours ago, Starjumper said: First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then, by golly, there's a mountain again. Hi Steve, Are you referring to ego? Why? Because... On 7/13/2018 at 3:04 AM, dawei said: First there are mountains then no mountains and then mountains ? There is ego then no ego and then ego. I live on a flatland - a little swampy though. - Anand 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 23, 2018 18 hours ago, Starjumper said: Lao Tzu sees trouble comes from having a body, so bring it on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wu Ming Jen Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) I actually practice lightness skill and I am also able to do this in the dark. The banter in this thread makes me feel light all night long, all night Then there is Gwen say no more nudge nudge I do not know where this all is going but I like it, like it, yes I do, I really like it. Edited July 23, 2018 by Wu Ming Jen 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, Wu Ming Jen said: I like it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Limahong said: https://youtu.be/rbtOmZ0d1SY https://youtu.be/pXESGdqUaAo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, Wu Ming Jen said: this thread makes me feel light all night long, all night Hi Wu Ming Jen, Good for you - lightly suggestive though. I am feeling heavy at 3am. I am going to sleep. Good night. - LimA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Starjumper said: https://youtu.be/rbtOmZ0d1SY https://youtu.be/pXESGdqUaAo SHUT UP! You are disturbing my sleep. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted July 23, 2018 From Ta Chuan to armpit farts. Taoists are weird. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Wu Ming Jen said: I actually practice lightness skill and I am also able to do this in the dark. Why don't you say more precisely that you practice darkness skill also? The following - lightness or darkness skill... especially the last picture? Edited July 24, 2018 by Limahong Enhance ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wu Ming Jen Posted July 24, 2018 You know me toooooo well mister. There are no light moves without night moves..... it just happens all on its own. One good thing just follows another with no effort. Well at least the effort is well worth it. Being deathless could also be a pretty dark skill to someone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rene Posted July 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Limahong said: Astonishing. 3 of those 4 images are a lie. LZ never said the first one, The second one is LZ The third one is Buddhist The last one has chakras. Higher dimensions and chakras. Attributed to Laozi??? Everybody wants to put their words into Laozi's mouth. I'd like to put something in their mouth. Maybe you better read the TTC sometime LimA - so you know what ISN'T in it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, rene said: Everybody wants to put their words into Laozi's mouth. I'd like to put something in their mouth. Hi rene, As a budding Taoist I am touched by these: Your loyalty/faithfulness/allegiance/devotion/fidelity/honesty/obedience/patriotism/tie/support... to Lao Tzu and Taoism (I visited the Thesaurus Park near my home last weekend). My apology - I am not schooled in Tao Te Ching. Please excuse my blindness, ignorance, cheekiness... At home I am nicknamed The Monkey. 2 hours ago, rene said: Maybe you better read the TTC sometime LimA - so you know what ISN'T in it. I am not motivated to read TTC because dawei said: "Squares and corners spoken are not the eternalness [of squares and corners]". So for the posterity of the TTC, it is better that I do not read it. Why? I am big-mouthed and I speak unnecessarily. After reading the TTC, it will be my spoken TTC and it will become terminal because - "TTC spoken is not the eternalness of TTC". In a slanted way I too care about the goodness of Lao Tzu and Taoism. 2 hours ago, rene said: Astonishing. You refrain from being astonished as this thread is seeded by Lost in Translation. I am open to whatever - so long as there is no malice aforethought. Live and let live. - LimA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Wu Ming Jen said: There are no light moves without night moves... Hi Wu Ming Jen, Yinny and myself had discussed the following in day-light. We dared not venture beyond sunset as we were unsure if the night light (w)could make monkeys out of us. Tao gives birth to One, (1)One gives birth to Two, (2)The Two gives birth to Three, (3)The Three gives birth to all universal things. (4)All universal things shoulder the Yin and embrace the Yang. (5)The Yin and Yang mingle and mix with each other to beget the harmony. (6) - Elizabeth Reninger Lines (1) to (4) were pretty straight forward for us. At Line (4) we positioned ourselves as Yinny (right) and LimA (left) - just before we went home separately just after 6 pm. The next day we discussed Line (5) in various field quite comfortably - until we touched on biology followed by sexology. At this juncture we could feel tensions rising - with me rising unsightly/embarrassingly. Despite our incessant checks on our watches - we were still discoursing at 9 pm. Suddenly Yinny stood up and said she had to leave as she had pre-set her oven. I said - "What the... " - and headed for the bar. Just before midnight Yinny WhatsApp-ed me and said she could not see me for a while. I asked why - and she sent me this through WhatsApp: I called to her to discuss her above picture verbatim and she hang up on me. Instead she sent me these through WTF. I was hyperventilating when I reminded Yinny that we had yet to discuss Line (6). She said - "we will discuss it long distance". Peace dawned on me when I realized that Yinny was not cutting me off. These pertained to our long distance dialogue re Line (6): Apart from the above Yinny simply loved this: She kept on asking me to explain the above first two lines. I did so happily... and repeatedly. At the end I was dead beat and I suggested a demonstration - and she shyly said no. We were on long distance for the longest time... Today Yinny has accepted my invitation to go for a short holiday this weekend to discuss Line (6) further. I am over the moon - we are graduating from light moves to night moves. - LimA Edited July 24, 2018 by Limahong Enhance ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 24, 2018 8 hours ago, rene said: Everybody wants to put their words into Laozi's mouth. Yes, that has been going on forever. But then, using Lao Tzu's name implies the importance of what he really did say. So many will have their own thoughts, suggest that Lao Tzu said it, and that gives them a little ego boost. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, Limahong said: - LimA I love this! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wu Ming Jen Posted July 24, 2018 Yinny the mysterious female has so much to teach us. When yinny and yang reconcile their differences new life burst through, all becomes alive like a beautiful garden full of life and light and dark movements that dance with perpetual motion, this birth is eternal. Yiiny and Lhong live happily ever after in the garden> the changes of the seasons, storms, snow and adverse conditions have no power to make things any different there is life beyond life. A sky above the sky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 24, 2018 9 hours ago, rene said: Maybe you better read the TTC sometime LimA - so you know what ISN'T in it. Hi rene, I will read the Tao Te Ching when I am ready. Meanwhile... I will take cited positive thoughts at face value in relation to fake quotes re the Internet of things. At the end of the day personal learning and experiential knowledge will be the order of the day. - LimA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Marblehead said: So many will have their own thoughts, suggest that Lao Tzu said it, and that gives them a little ego boost. Hi Dada-da, This have happened not only to Lao Tzu. - LimA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rene Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) LimA - good morning! 4am here the sun is just beginning to rise 9 hours ago, Limahong said: Hi rene, As a budding Taoist I am touched by these: Your loyalty/faithfulness/allegiance/devotion/fidelity/honesty/obedience/patriotism/tie/support... to Lao Tzu and Taoism (I visited the Thesaurus Park near my home last weekend). Oh..dont be too touched by my words, I told you my way was different - LOL I'm not Taoist and will never be. It's only the TTC that for me has any value, and my affection for it resides in it's simplicity and clarity. For a while (when I needed names) I called myself a Laoist - as in a follower of Laozi's ideas - but for the very reasons you (and Dawei!) stated - that too has floated away. "Taoism" has more squares and corners than the words of the TTC. Squares and corners box in the ideas that come through Laozi's words. Side note: that's why I like the Feng/English rendition best. It may not be the most 'technically' accurate - but it's neutral tone sets less barrier to the ideas. Quote My apology - I am not schooled in Tao Te Ching. Please excuse my blindness, ignorance, cheekiness... At home I am nicknamed The Monkey. No apology necessary! Quote I am not motivated to read TTC because dawei said: "Squares and corners spoken are not the eternalness [of squares and corners]". So for the posterity of the TTC, it is better that I do not read it. Why? I am big-mouthed and I speak unnecessarily. After reading the TTC, it will be my spoken TTC and it will become terminal because - "TTC spoken is not the eternalness of TTC". In a slanted way I too care about the goodness of Lao Tzu and Taoism. Nothing wrong with slanted ways. I care more about accuracy than goodness; that's my slanted way. Quote You refrain from being astonished as this thread is seeded by Lost in Translation. I am open to whatever - so long as there is no malice aforethought. Live and let live. - LimA There is never malice from me, towards anyone, ever. 2 hours ago, Limahong said: Hi rene, I will read the Tao Te Ching when I am ready. Meanwhile... I will take cited positive thoughts at face value in relation to fake quotes re the Internet of things. At the end of the day personal learning and experiential knowledge will be the order of the day. - LimA Sounds like a good plan! But you better be careful because if you post enough meme's you'll have read the TTC whether you realize it or not!! 3 hours ago, Limahong said: Apart from the above Yinny simply loved this: She kept on asking me to explain the above first two lines. I did so happily... and repeatedly. At the end I was dead beat and I suggested a demonstration - and she shyly said no. Do you know that ^^ is chapter 36 of the TTC?? AND your meme is the only one NOT attributed to Laozi on it. LOLOL DDJ 36 F/E That which shrinks Must first expand. That which fails Must first be strong. That which is cast down Must first be raised. Before receiving There must be giving. This is called perception of the nature of things. Soft and weak overcome hard and strong. Fish cannot leave deep waters, And a country's weapons should not be displayed. Yinny loving this says you should keep loving her!! Quote - LimA Happy weekend to you too!! Edited July 24, 2018 by rene major typo lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rene Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Marblehead said: Yes, that has been going on forever. But then, using Lao Tzu's name implies the importance of what he really did say. So many will have their own thoughts, suggest that Lao Tzu said it, and that gives them a little ego boost. I know. And, if someone goes then and reads LZ - they start from a wrong idea and the essence has less chance to get through their pre-loaded squares and corners. None of this is a big deal though; and if they read something that helps them - what could be wrong with that! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Limahong said: Hi Dada-da, This have happened not only to Lao Tzu. - LimA True that. People love to mis-quote Nietzsche. In fact, some translations have mis-translated him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, rene said: and if they read something that helps them - what could be wrong with that! Exactly. I even sometimes compliment something that supposedly originated with the Buddha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Wu Ming Jen said: When yinny and yang reconcile their differences new life burst through Hi Wu Ming Jen, You are poetic. When differences are reconciled new life bursts through. All becomes alive in a beautiful garden so pure and true. It is full of life with light and dark dance movements. In eternal rebirths - perpetual motions and moments. Yin and Yang live happily ever after in above garden. Changes - seasons, storms, snow aren't any burden. Adverse conditions have no power, But - give fruits flower after flower. Make things different without a why. Live beyond life - a sky above the sky. - LimA Edited July 24, 2018 by Limahong Enhance ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marblehead said: People love to mis-quote... Hi Dada-da, But I have not misquoted dawei... "Squares and corners spoken are not the eternalness [of squares and corners]". The perfect square has no corners? - LimA Edited July 24, 2018 by Limahong Enhance ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 24, 2018 3 hours ago, rene said: None of this is a big deal though; and if they read something that helps them - what could be wrong with that! So fake quotes acceptable - with an eye closed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
