What is the most straight forward path to enlightenment

[moment]

4 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

I don't do Kundalini.  Didn't even know what it is until I looked it up.  Never done any kind of Yoga either.

 

Being an immortal was BS.  But I know that I will live until I die so in my mind (that is where my understanding that I am alive resides) I am immortal because I will never know that I am dead after I die.

 

That is what I figured.  I am curious, what do you personally believe The Dao Bums mission statement is?

[Marblehead]

1 minute ago, moment said:

That is what I figured.  I am curious, what do you personally believe The Dao Bums mission statement is?

The Dao Bums

 

Discussion On The Way.

 

It's all about life and how to live it to our fullest.

 

So basically, if its about living, and attaining peace and contentment, we could say that is enough of a mission statement.

 

"Way" refers to the Daoist concept.  But we have people of many different influences here communicating.

 

Doesn't mean one has to label themselves a Daoist.  "A living person" is fine.  (Dead people don't talk much.)

 

 

[moment]

On 8/15/2018 at 10:37 AM, Marblehead said:

The Dao Bums

 

Discussion On The Way.

 

It's all about life and how to live it to our fullest.

 

So basically, if its about living, and attaining peace and contentment, we could say that is enough of a mission statement.

 

"Way" refers to the Daoist concept.  But we have people of many different influences here communicating.

 

Doesn't mean one has to label themselves a Daoist.  "A living person" is fine.  (Dead people don't talk much.)

 

 

general and open-ended mission statement

Edited July 6, 2019 by moment

[Marblehead]

You left me with nothing to say.  No, I'm not going to stroke my ego.

 

[moment]

19 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

You left me with nothing to say.  No, I'm not going to stroke my ego.

 

 

As you wish.

[Marblehead]

4 minutes ago, moment said:

 

As you wish.

But really, back to the opening post, I doubt there is any straight forward path to enlightenment.

 

We start our life out with only the thoughts that others have put there.  Much was bad advice.

 

Who of us has ever heard of the perfect teacher, have been able to sit with that teacher, and learn what is most important to us?

 

Some say they know of the perfect teacher but others disagree with them so perhaps the perfect teacher does not exist and the best path does not exist either.

 

[moment]

On 8/15/2018 at 11:13 AM, Marblehead said:

But really, back to the opening post, I doubt there is any straight forward path to enlightenment.

 

 

 

Of course, if it was easy, how could it enlighten?

Edited August 26, 2018 by moment

[Marblehead]

11 minutes ago, moment said:

 

Of course, if it was easy, how could it enlighten?

That's actually a good point.  We learn better from things that were hard to learn than we do from things that were easy to grasp.

 

So we live our life, make our mistakes, learn from those mistakes until we finally gain the wisdom to ask the questions of which the answers will be of the greatest aid along our journey.

 

[Rocky Lionmouth]

57 minutes ago, moment said:

 

Of course, if it was easy, how could it enlighten?

 

I’m pretty sure enlightenment is very easy when you happen to it. Getting there is a fight towards more easy conditions but if anything is hard on the way it’s most likely our own resistance and the little traps and loops we revert to incessantly. Forcing, twisting, headbutting and all sorts of hardships are self inflicted and almost willfully so... maybe.

[Limahong]

2 hours ago, Marblehead said:

I will never know that I am dead after I die.

 

I had never known that I had eaten until they cleared the table.

Then I asked - did I (a) live to eat or (b) eat to live.

[Limahong]

2 hours ago, Marblehead said:

The Dao Bums...

 

Discussion On The Way.

And get foul-mouthed along the way.

Then move further and further away.

 

It's all about life and how to live it to our fullest.

It's about fighting and insulting to the bloodiest.

Admin steps in & try to make things the holiest.

 

So basically, if its about living,

But broadly about fighting,

and attaining peace and contentment,

and getting pieces and resentment,

we could say that is enough of a mission statement.

but insufficient as an understatement.

 

"Way" refers to the Daoist concept. 

"Away" refers to TDB's best practice.

 

But we have people of many different influences here communicating.

We have also people of different cronyism - purporting open sharing. 

 

Doesn't mean one has to label themselves a Daoist.

They label themselves/others whatever until Admin...

 

 "A living person" is fine. 

But "Way" badly defined.

 

(Dead people don't talk much.)

(Because of Admin's holy grail...)

 

- Anand

[silent thunder]

how does one acquire what already is?

where is there to go and what is there to do, when what is, is all that is?

 

what to do when what is being sought, is what is seeking...?

[moment]

18 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

Discussion On The Way.

And get foul-mouthed along the way.

Then move further and further away.

 

It's all about life and how to live it to our fullest.

It's about fighting and insulting to the bloodiest.

Admin steps in & try to make things the holiest.

 

So basically, if its about living,

But broadly about fighting,

and attaining peace and contentment,

and getting pieces and resentment,

we could say that is enough of a mission statement.

but insufficient as an understatement.

 

"Way" refers to the Daoist concept. 

"Away" refers to TDB's best practice.

 

But we have people of many different influences here communicating.

We have also people of different cronyism - purporting open sharing. 

 

Doesn't mean one has to label themselves a Daoist.

They label themselves/others whatever until Admin...

 

 "A living person" is fine. 

But "Way" badly defined.

 

(Dead people don't talk much.)

(Because of Admin's holy grail...)

 

- Anand

 

You did a much better job of getting to it than I did.  Thank you.

[Limahong]

20 minutes ago, silent thunder said:

how does one acquire what already is?

where is there to go and what is there to do, when what is, is all that is?

 

what to do when what is being sought, is what is seeking...?

 

how does one acquire what already is?

by fighting and insulting.

 

where is there to go and what is there to do,

where - away from the "Way"

what - more fighting and insulting

 

when what is, is all that is?

yes when we overlook the 'is not'.

 

what to do when what is being sought, is what is seeking...?

nothing - wu-wei and the Void.

 

- Anand

Edited August 15, 2018 by Limahong

[silent thunder]

1 hour ago, Limahong said:

 

how does one acquire what already is?

by fighting and insulting.

 

where is there to go and what is there to do,

where - away from the "Way"

what - more fighting and insulting

 

when what is, is all that is?

yes when we overlook the 'is not'.

 

what to do when what is being sought, is what is seeking...?

nothing - wu-wei and the Void.

 

- Anand

I hear you friend.

lately I'm just watching the wheels letting it go...

 

Edited August 15, 2018 by silent thunder

[Rocky Lionmouth]

 

Uh, seems axes are searching for a grind or angry an laugh,

i ax permission to remove Iself ere i get chopped inna half.

Barf like a calf, spit like alpacas,

my jing retention dont allow me extension

to get angry or daft, nor start shit like a rakkas.

 

Peace, 5000

[Limahong]

3 hours ago, silent thunder said:

lately I'm just watching the wheels letting it go...

 

My Dear Friend,

 

John Lennon watched "The Wheels" - now he is gone.

 

I don't want to miss you - untimely...

 

"Watching The Wheels"
 

People say I'm crazy doing what I'm doing
Well they give me all kinds of warnings to save me from ruin
When I say that I'm o.k. they look at me kind of strange
Surely you're not happy now you no longer play the game

People say I'm lazy dreaming my life away
Well they give me all kinds of advice designed to enlighten me
When I tell that I'm doing Fine watching shadows on the wall
Don't you miss the big time boy you're no longer on the ball?

I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
I really love to watch them roll
No longer riding on the merry-go-round
I just had to let it go

People asking questions lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem
Only solutions
Well they shake their heads and they look at me as if I've lost my mind
I tell them there's no hurry...
I'm just sitting here doing time

I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
I really love to watch them roll
No longer riding on the merry-go-round
I just had to let it go

 

It is better that you watch the stars...

 

 

Take very good care of yourself - so that I do not have to worry.

 

- Anand

 

Edited August 16, 2018 by Limahong

[Limahong]

6 hours ago, Marblehead said:

I'm not going to stroke my ego.

 

... and end up with an anti-climax.

[Limahong]

4 hours ago, Rocky Lionmouth said:

Peace, 5000

 

Uh, seems axes are searching for a grind or angry an laugh,

Don't fan the fire - the flame is bloody naked & hot enough,

i ax permission to remove Iself ere i get chopped inna half.

Good try & good luck - better that you sharpen to be tough.

Barf like a calf, spit like alpacas,

Eat like a lion but avoid carcass.

my jing retention dont allow me extension

It's only the ninety ninth day do be patient,

Your 2nd chakra will rise to rigid attention.

to get angry or daft, nor start shit like a rakkas

Meditate silently, peacefully... with joy & class.

 

Edited August 16, 2018 by Limahong

[Limahong]

7 hours ago, Marblehead said:

the perfect teacher does not exist and the best path does not exist either.

 

Is there a perfect student or disciple?

 

Follow Nature's path and end peacefully in deaths - be it cats, dogs, monkeys... and (in)humans.

 

RIP - final chapter.

 

Period.

[Rocky Lionmouth]

@Limahong

while i do appreciate alternating double couplet stanzas in text they mess up the flow and rythm a little. I love the subtext dick-joke but i’m a little surprised by the alpacas-carcass rhyme, were you hearing it in stiff upper brit delivery?

I immagined it as more of a hip hop jazz edit of a limerick structure with a little of Paul Barman flavor of diction.

 

Is this where this thread goes fully south with a keystyle raps battle and we both get banned for illustriously dropping clusters of darts upon heads that sleep on our awesomeness?

[Limahong]

31 minutes ago, Rocky Lionmouth said:

fully south

 

Hi Rocky Lionmouth,

Thank you for the alarm.

 

Uh, seems axes are searching for a grind or angry an laugh,

i ax permission to remove Iself ere i get chopped inna half.

Barf like a calf, spit like alpacas,

my jing retention dont allow me extension

to get angry or daft, nor start shit like a rakkas

 

Don't fan the fire - the flame is bloody naked & hot enough,

Good try & good luck - better that you sharpen to be tough.

Eat like a lion but avoid stinking old carcass.

It's only the ninety ninth day do be patient,

Your 2nd chakra will rise to rigid attention.

Meditate silently, peacefully... with joy & class.

 

Now it is fully south...

Good day.

 

- Anand

 

Edited August 16, 2018 by Limahong

[Rocky Lionmouth]

36 minutes ago, Limahong said:

Don't fan the fire - the flame is bloody naked & hot enough,

Good try & good luck - better that you sharpen to be tough.

Eat like a lion but avoid stinking old carcass.

It's only the ninety ninth day do be patient,

Your 2nd chakra will rise to rigid attention.

Meditate silently, peacefully... with joy & class.

 

Now it is fully south...

 

 

 

South idk but IT IS ON, double or nothing bruh!

 

 

Omg shut up, that is off the hook sir, now i see what you did thurr,

It works both woven and standalone unshook, pattern is firm

Leave my stick alone or you will be blessed sticky

Grease off elbows, get off holding my bellows

You burn too hot, my cauldron golden yellow

Around the clock, harass your immortal child with stressed tic-tock-ticky

 

Re-up and reload, court reconvene and upping tensions

i illustriously filibuster your turn with delivering my sentence:

Your fa jin is naa-thing, golden bells ring

Your subpar rhy-ming repelled and bouncing off

My iron body while your breathwork isnt sounding soft

disavowed your ”sharp” retort even breaking my fell skin.

 

 

 

[Rocky Lionmouth]

@Seatle185 that bad huh? Well, i tried my best at least. 

[Limahong]

7 hours ago, Rocky Lionmouth said:

Around the clock...

 

I can only connect with this...