rideforever Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said: Once this basic truth of suffering is known (felt, actually) then suffering takes a different quality. It still hurts, but only as pain does I am not sure what you men here, you feel suffering and then .... that makes it okay ? Not sure what you mean. If we are nondual souls, why did Buddha (and everyone else) teach laboriously over many years, why not just click the fingers ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted August 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, rideforever said: I am not sure what you men here, you feel suffering and then .... that makes it okay ? Not sure what you mean. If we are nondual souls, why did Buddha (and everyone else) teach laboriously over many years, why not just click the fingers ? Pain is pain. We all feel it and it sucks. Suffering is pain that we take personally. It's the "woe is me, why is this happening to me?" mindset that we all instinctively adopt. Once you see this and stop taking pain personally then you still have the pain but you no longer have the suffering. As for Buddha, you'll need to ask him why he said what he said. Seriously, just because the soul is non-local, non-timebound, and non-dual does not mean that you and I, here in the manifest world, don't experience locality, time and duality. We do! It's just that - in our essence - we are not "humans waiting to become souls" but rather "souls experiencing humanity." To-MAY-to, to-MAH-to ... I know. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites