wandelaar Posted August 18, 2018 In another topic Wu Ming Jen wrote: Quote All things do their works without slightest complaint, they give born to others without claiming ownership. they do things without telling others what they have done, and they retire when their job is done. Because of their retirement, their achievement is eternal. -> look at the nature, plants live their lives without complaint, they give birth without claiming ownership, they do things without the on-going need to inform others what they have done, and they retire when their job is done (flower wither after spreading pollen, fruit wither/eaten/carried away to spread seed, a lot of plants die every winter). As they have no attachment to the temporary (flower, fruit, plant), they remains at one with their real nature, which beyond and not subjected to the temporariness of the phenomenal changes. This is an interesting point you bring up here. Lately I have been looking at nature with an eye to learning about the workings of Tao and how to live like that. Do you or any other Bums know of any books or articles that can help me recognise crucial natural processes that carry a lesson for us as to how to life our daily life. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted August 18, 2018 Can't think of a book off hand, but lately, observing water run down the gutters of our street to the drain, brings a simple, potent lesson on the experience of dao. Just sit and observe. Be present. Just be. Water flows downhill and can generate great force without mind, without effort, skill, training or intent. It carries along whatever it encounters... leaves, litter, dog turds, jewelry, live insects and dead bodies of birds, without revulsion or covetousness. in this, a palpable experience of dao... for me. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, silent thunder said: Just sit and observe. Be present. Just be. Hi Creighton, I associate Nature with wu-wei and silence - IT is not concerned with arguments, comparisons, divisions... Just be. Let it be... - Anand Edited August 18, 2018 by Limahong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CityHermit! Posted August 18, 2018 I've been meaning to share this article but had forgotten so here is a good opportunity for me to do so: https://www.chinadialogue.net/culture/9669-Taoist-monks-find-new-role-as-environmentalists/en 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted August 18, 2018 35 minutes ago, Limahong said: Hi Creighton, I associate Nature with wu-wei and silence - IT is not concerned with arguments, comparisons, divisions... Just be. Let it be... - Anand Just be. what else is there? thanks my friend! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted August 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, CityHermit! said: I've been meaning to share this article but had forgotten so here is a good opportunity for me to do so HI CityHermit!, Thank you. I can identify with these excerpts... Taoist monks find new role as environmentalists By building a network of ‘ecological temples,’ leading Taoist monks are serving as role models for sustainable practices, writes Denise Hruby (30 March 2017) Ren Farong (right) chats with another monk in a courtyard at Louguantai Temple, Tayu Village, Shaanxi province. (Image: Thomas Cristofoletti for Sixth Tone) On a chilly winter morning in Shaanxi, northwest China, rays of sunlight warmed the wrinkled face of Ren Farong, the former president of the Chinese Taoist Association. His long white beard bobbed up and down as he spoke.“In the past, people were pure and honest, and they protected the environment,” Ren said from his wicker chair in the courtyard of Louguantai Temple. It was here in the fourth century that Lao-tzu wrote the Tao Te Ching, the text that serves as the foundation of Taoism. Under the emerald roofs of Louguantai, monks with long hair tied into buns saunter past pine trees and firs, paying their respects to the sage and their gods in golden shrines, interrupted only by the occasional ringing of bells.Just 70 kilometres from this tranquil enclave lies Shaanxi’s capital, Xi’an, a city of about 9 million people. There, luxury cars zip past high-end shopping malls, coal plants belch toxic fumes into the air, and factories dump waste into waterways... Ren believes that greed and selfishness have destroyed the world’s natural balance. As a Taoist, he follows the wu wei — a spiritual tenet that literally means “non-doing,” and is often explained as letting things follow their natural flow. But the environmental degradation Ren and other Taoists were seeing year after year horrified them so much that they decided to do something out of character: They agreed to take action.More than 2,500 years after Lao-tzu wrote his classic tome at Louguantai, China’s leading Taoists convened at the same spot to pen the Qinling Agreement, in which they pledged to protect the environment and become quiet champions of a new “green revolution” which they called the “Daoist Ecological Protection Network.”Since the network’s founding in 2006, around 120 temples have joined. Some use biofuels and solar-powered lighting; others plant trees to prevent erosion and organise volunteers to pick up litter. Posters and signs prominently displayed at the temples remind visitors of the importance of nature. “Taoist beliefs emphasise respecting and protecting nature, all in the pursuit of harmony between the human beings and the environment,” said Ren, for whom becoming one of the quiet, inconspicuous leaders of a new green movement in China seemed a natural fit.Ren Farong, one of the highest-ranking Taoist masters in China, poses for a photo inside the courtyard at Louguantai Temple, Tayu Village, Shaanxi province, Jan. 12, 2017. Thomas Cristofoletti for Sixth ToneBy definition, Taoists are non-intrusive, even passive, and this is a mentality that is mirrored in the green temple network. While other environmentalists march and protest, write petitions and distribute leaflets, Taoist believe that change will come about organically: Their contribution to the cause is to serve as role models that others can aspire to emulate.“These places are committed to being ecological temples,” He Yun, the officer in charge of projects in Asia at the Alliance of Religions and Conservation (ARC), which supports the Chinese Taoists’ efforts, told Sixth Tone. “I think they will really have an impact.” If people do what Taoism teaches, then the environment will reach a balance again. - Ren Farong, former president of the Chinese Daoist Association At Louguantai, Taoism has also taken on the task of protecting China’s most iconic animal, the panda. As more and more tourists flock to the summit of the sacred Mount Taibai, they cut through the forest that is home to the pandas, slowly destroying their habitat. If the tourists all took the same path up the mountain, the monks thought, the pandas would enjoy more peace. So in cooperation with the ARC, they built the Tiejia Taoist Ecology Temple along one of the paths and opened an ecology education centre next to it, making the route the most appealing way up the mountain.The monks’ rationale was simple: Rather than put up signs telling people what not to do or preach about what’s right and wrong, they decided it would be more effective to show people an alternative that they would recognise as better. To some extent, the tourists are a nuisance to the temple’s tranquillity, but the monks also recognise the benefit of educating visitors. “If people do what Taoism teaches, then the environment will reach a balance again,” Ren said. At Maoshan, one of the largest Taoist temples in China, not far from Nanjing in the eastern province of Jiangsu, solar lights line the broad walkways. There are no utility poles or power lines besmirching the scenic view from the top of the hills down onto a massive, golden statue of Lao-tzu. Inside the cluster of temples and palaces, booklets describe the importance of keeping the environment clean, limiting one’s garbage, and various other sustainable practices.Tourists take photos at the entrance of Yuanfu Wanning Temple, Jurong City, Jiangsu province, Jan. 10, 2017. The complex includes a massive statue of Lao-tzu, the founder of Taoism. Thomas Cristofoletti for Sixth ToneIn a two-story building used for calligraphy classes, the only way to reach the upper floor is by climbing a terraced boulder that forms a natural staircase rising from the ground. If they had followed the original design plans for the new buildings, the monks would have had to cut down trees and excavate stones that had been in the same place for millions of years. But after the Qinling Agreement, they decided against these invasive measures, according to Yang Shihua, the head of Maoshan’s monastery.“We call our practice, ‘Let the roads, houses, and walls give way to the trees,’” Yang said while slowly climbing to the top of the natural stone stairs in his monk’s slippers. “Now, it’s become an attraction,” he added with a smile upon reaching the second floor. Across the country, around 50,000 Taoist monks and nuns live in a total of 9,000 temples. Twenty years ago, there were a total of 1,500 temples. There are no official figures for the number of Taoists in China, but a 2007 survey on spirituality in the country found that 12 million Chinese firmly identified as Taoist, while 173 million reported practicing it occasionally.An aerial view of part of the Louguantai Temple complex, Tayu Village, Shaanxi province, Jan. 12, 2017. Thomas Cristofoletti for Sixth ToneFan Guangchun, one of the country’s most renowned scholars on Taoism, says that the religion is seeing a renaissance in China. “The number of Taoists is rising,” he told Sixth Tone. As Taoism is seen as offering an escape from a hyper-materialistic society, Fan observes that the makeup of followers is changing, too. Historically, Taoism has been a religion practiced by people in the countryside, but Fan said he has been seeing more and more urban residents — with more education, income, and influence — frequenting the temples as well. The government has also supported Taoism and recognises it as China’s only indigenous religion.A mix of bad weather and air pollution did not deter Tang Naichun and his wife from their recent trip to Maoshan, where Tang told Sixth Tone he believes China’s rapid development is to blame for the country’s environmental problems. As someone who “somewhat” follows Taoism, he has heard about the Taoist monks’ green movement. As to whether this could have a positive impact, he answered with an equivocal “Possibly.” ... While the monks try to stick to their self-assigned role of leading by good example, there are a few instances in which they have actively tried to change people’s behaviour. The three-stick policy for burning incense, Yang said, is a prime example. Previously, candles and incense sticks weighing several kilogrammes each were available at most temples, providing not only a source of income for the monks, but also a way for visitors to show their devotion, personal wealth, or both. But Yang said the practice had gotten so out of hand that smoke hung over the whole area. During the temple fair, if you looked up to the top of the mountain, it seemed like the peak was on fire. - Yang Shihua, head of Maoshan Temple “During the temple fair, if you looked up to the top of the mountain, it seemed like the peak was on fire,” he said, adding that people’s hair and clothes sometimes caught fire, and that the temple struggled to deal with the massive amount of ash.Incense sticks are still being burned, of course, but now only small ones are available, and each visitor is allowed to buy no more than three — a call for moderation, the monks believe, in a society where many have lost focus of what’s important. “If all Taoist temples followed green practices, it would greatly influence our disciples, believers, and visitors,” Yang said. But with the Taoists’ tendency to avoid confrontation, it will take some time for the green temple movement to make a real difference, he added. “In 20 or 30 years, we might change the country’s ideas on environmental protection,” Yang said. As the sage Lao-tzu wrote: “Even a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” - Anand 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) Found this: https://chenyuhsi.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/the-way-of-nature-as-a-healing-power-the-taoist-perspective/ Edited August 19, 2018 by wandelaar 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rene Posted August 19, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 11:56 AM, CityHermit! said: I've been meaning to share this article but had forgotten so here is a good opportunity for me to do so: https://www.chinadialogue.net/culture/9669-Taoist-monks-find-new-role-as-environmentalists/en Wonderful article! Thanks for sharing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted August 19, 2018 http://fore.yale.edu/files/Taoism_and_Ecology_Conference_Participants_and_Abstracts.pdf Yes in Daoism there is a deep ecology philosophy. I did my master's thesis on radical ecology and Daoism but I still did not understand the deep philosophy yet. I had to "unlearn" Western logic first that we all learn by 10th grade in school. As for those Daoist monks - I wish them all the best. I have done similarly here on our land - planted chestnut trees and I refused to use power machines so that the animals would feel comfortable. We regularly have deer, wild turkeys, song birds, etc. in our yard. But I did ecology as my "career" and so I know things that people generally "don't want to hear about." Ecological destruction on Earth is accelerating quite fast - so all I can say is brace yourselves. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted August 19, 2018 Environmental Philosophy in Asian Traditions of Thought - SUNY Press https://www.sunypress.edu/pdf/63012.pdf justice (social ecology and now, more recently, environmental justice). Comparative philosophy is the ... of Wisconsin-Stevens Point in 1971. The first published ..... Whether it does or not, the Daoist concept of wu-wei (not doing) may have the ... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites