Rara Posted May 31, 2020 Ok, I read through most of page ond and realiased that there are another 7! My main question isn't about ones, twos and threes. Just... Are "dukes and emperors" enligytened sages in this context? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted May 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Rara said: Ok, I read through most of page ond and realiased that there are another 7! My main question isn't about ones, twos and threes. Just... Are "dukes and emperors" enligytened sages in this context? I think the idea is that they are modelling humility and as such, the maxim shared in the next line explains the result: that one gains by losing. It seems to put high esteem on the dukes and emperors. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sketch Posted October 22, 2020 Verse Forty Two The Pathway gives birth to One. One gives birth to two. Two grows into three. Three gives life to everything; All the ten thousand things, Even the dancing scorpions. The ten thousand things are negative space; They contain the positive. Blend them and movement becomes pattern. This is peace, equilibrium. (There are those who do evil; they get ahead by Lonely machinations, even becoming the lords of the land, although they cannot even care for a pet or a plant) Things that benefit; things that damage Things can do both. There are some lessons others have taught, and I agree. Those who rely on strength and brutality Come to a bad end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kakapo Posted July 13, 2023 On 8/24/2018 at 3:22 PM, dawei said: David Hinton 2002 42 Way gave birth to one, and one gave birth to two. Two gave birth to three, and three gave birth to the ten thousand things. Then the ten thousand things shouldered yin and embraced yang, blending ch'i to establish harmony. People all hate scraping by orphaned, destitute, ill-fated, but true dukes and emperors call themselves just that. Some things gain by loss, and some lose by gain. I only teach what the people teach: Tyranny and force never come to a natural end. I've taken the people as my schoolmaster. Chad Hansen 2009 42 A guide generates 'one.' 'One' generates 'two.' 'Two' generates 'three.' 'Three' generates the ten-thousand natural kinds. The ten-thousand natural kinds bear Yin and embrace Yang. Blend the life-forces and deem-make 'harmony.' What humans revile is specifically 'orphan,' 'lonely' and 'impoverished.' Yet Kings and Dukes deem them as titles. Hence among natural kinds: sometimes you diminish it and it increases. Sometime you increase it and it diminishes. What humans teach, I also teach. Those who force issues don't get their death. I'm on the point of deeming this 'the father of teaching.' Moss Roberts 2001 42 The number one of the Way was born. A duad from this monad formed. The duad next a triad made; The triad bred the myriad, Each holding The number one of the Way was born. A duad from this monad formed. The duad next a triad made; The triad bred the myriad, Each holding yang And held by yin, Whose powers’ balanced interaction Brings all ten thousand to fruition. By the names men most of all abhor – “Orphaned,” “wanting,” “destitute” – Kings and lords make themselves known. For in this world Those who take less shall have more, Those given more shall have less. These words men have taught And so shall I teach: “Who lives by might never do die right”, These my authority, my guiding light. Lok Sang Ho 2002 42 The Dao gives birth to the One. The One gives birth to the Two(yin and yang). The Two give birth to the Three(heaven, earth, and man)74. The Three give birth to all things as we know them. All living things bear the female nature And espouse the male nature. In interacting with each other these two natures result in a new harmony. It is well known that people generally hate to be lonely, widowed, or under-provided. Yet kings and people who wield power call themselves lonely, widowed, or under-provided. Things may benefit people through imposing losses on them, And may hurt them through bestowing apparent benefits. I teach the same kind of people that others teach75. But by a single maxim that I teach, that “Those who use sheer force to make their ways Will not die a good death” I should become the teacher of all teachers. Gu Zhengku 1993 42 The Tao begets the One; The One consists of Two in opposition (the Yin and Yang); The Two begets the Three; The Three begets all things of the world. All things connote the Yin and Yang. The Yin and Yang keep acting upon each other And thus things keep changing and unifying themselves. Words like "the solitary", "the few" and "the unkind" Are usually detested by people, Yet lords and kings use them to call themselves. That is why A thing is sometimes added to when being reduced, Or is reduced when being added to. So I teach what I am taught: "The violent will not come to a good end." This I will take as the first lesson when I teach. Lin Yutang 1948 42 Out of Tao, One is born; Out of One, Two; Out of Two, Three; Out of Three, the created universe. The created universe carries the yin at its back and the yang in front; Through the union of the pervading principles it reaches harmony. To be "orphaned," "lonely" and "unworthy" is what men hate most. Yet the princes and dukes call themselves by such names. For sometimes things are benefited by being taken away from, And suffer by being added to. Others have taught this maxim, Which I shall teach also: "The violent man shall die a violent death." This I shall regard as my spiritual teacher. Flowing Hands 1987 42 The Dao begot one, one gave birth and then there was two. Two begot three. And so the Ten Thousand Things were formed. The Ten Thousand Things each contain Yin and Yang. They are in harmony by having both of these forces. From this, the forces are divided still; for the Male has more Yang and the Female has more Yin. So they are different. By coming together, they beget another life. So the Ten Thousand Things depend on these forces. When the forces are upset and out of balance, so the Earth and the Ten Thousand Things will suffer. Know the balance and all will be well. The innate intelligence behind all reality gave birth to the void. The void, separated into matter and antimatter. Matter and antimatter, interact to release untold energy. Matter, antimatter, and energy lead to the development of our current universe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/13/2023 at 7:47 PM, kakapo said: The innate intelligence behind all reality gave birth to the void. The void, separated into matter and antimatter. Matter and antimatter, interact to release untold energy. Matter, antimatter, and energy lead to the development of our current universe. Dao is not something but innate intelligence is. Is this reconciled by: Dao [is the principle behind innate intelligence] gave rise to singularity [of what would become things] This singularity, void of separation, then separated... etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
