Hello from Luxin

[Luxin]

 

 

Edited November 8, 2018 by Luxin

[Fa Xin]

Hello, Luxin, and welcome.

 

Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go.

 

Please take the time to read the post pinned at the top of this Welcome page and take a look at the forum Terms and Rules.   This covers all you need to know when getting started.

 

For the first week you will be restricted to ten posts per day but after that you can post as much as you like. Also, until you’ve posted fifteen times in the forums, you’ll be a “Junior Bum” with somewhat restricted access and will be allowed only two private messages per day.

 

Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you,

 

Fa Xin and the TDB team

 

Hi Luxin,

 

GREAT intro! I'm very intrigued. Looking forward to seeing you on the forums. Enjoy!

 

You are welcome to jump right in to the ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forum to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started.

 

May you enjoy your time here.

 

Fa Xin

[Marblehead]

Hi Luxin.  Welcome.

 

Yes, great intro.  I'm sure you will find members with interests common to your all over the place here.

 

Humor:  If humor were not allowed here I would have been banned many years ago.

 

And yes, beware the abyss - when it starts staring back at you, you are in deep doodoo.

 

 

[Luxin]

November 3, 2018

 

Hi Fa Xin, Marblehead and other fellow beings here at TTB/TDB,

 

Thank you for the great welcome! Regarding humor I've had to recognize it could be disruptive, like telling a joke in class and others laughing when all should ideally be allowed to reflect on the rather serious subject of Life. Pythagoras allegedly disdained laughing (presumably while he was sharing), but it seems he was quite a standup comedian, as he was always standing up in his classes. Marblehead, since you've encouraged me, I'll just get one joke attributed to Pythagoras out of the way ....

 

Abaris the Hyperborean thought Pythagoras was a God. Pythagoras told Abaris he came down to human form lest men, disturbed by the novelty of his transcendency, should avoid the discipline he advised. (from Iamblichus? via William Harris, Prof. Em. Middlebury College). OK, I'll behave now. Whoops, still laughing. Ahem....

 

About the abyss, there was an enormous bass voice in it I think. I don't know if he was talking to me or grumbling about misplacing his shoes.  Sorry. I should really leave the class. Perhaps we can all reflect upon the depth and do our disciplines when we're all done with this post? That's recommended, to keep earthbound and not fly away with humor.

 

I can't guarantee some of my fellows will always be happy with what I say, because Truth is heavy, and I'm 'full of it'. Still a ways to go of course; it should only stop with the last breath (but continue in the next). Forgive me, for it was either I married the Truth at 20 or I was going to die too early ... analogous to a shotgun wedding; my soul was holding the 'shotgun'. Thank you for accepting me so graciously. I'm also impressed with the graphics of TTB. Beautiful.

 

Till then, Luxin

[Luxin]

November 4, 2018

 

DAO BUMS PLEASE NOTE: The following is just a draft for review by our Leaders ... NO POLL needed for now. Thanks, Luxin.

 

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DRAFT ONLY................ NO POLL REQUIRED....

 

Tentative Thread Title:
The Living and The Dead  L01 Intro

 

Hello, Luxin here, with a poll for all my fellow Dao Bums requiring responses of ANY kind -- negative, positive, whatever -- from anyone reading this please, with particular reference to our Leaderboard Stewards, Fa Xin, Marblehead and any other "Major Bums", if you'll excuse that likely unconventionality.

 

I have just been thinking of the possibility -- I'm not sure yet if it would actually be appropriate -- of posting an introduction to the occult subject of 'the living and the dead', which is a term for our human race and its duality which is based on morality or immorality, i.e. 'the good' is 'the living', and 'the bad' are 'the dead'. If my proposal for an introduction is accepted, the term 'the dead' will sometimes be replaced with the euphemism 'harmed ones' or 'the harmed' which reflects their true condition as being victims of bad karma through no fault of their own.

 

Definition:  'The dead', also known as 'harmed ones' or 'the harmed', are those who have damned themselves with sin. Their full term is 'the spiritually dead'. The concept of 'eternal damnation' or 'spiritual death' applies. The harmed ones are 'permanent residents of hell on earth' -- meaning subject to the karmic judgment of an  unhappy, loveless life because of their sin typically involving lovelessness -- e.g. 'loveless lust'. And, get this -- the judgment of damnation comes from the sinner's own Conscience! Something like a 'spiritual short circuit' happens, probably in the pineal gland.

 

You see it's a heavy topic, not for the squeamish at all. And harmed ones need to be protected from the topic as well, because they're just as sensitive as 'good' people and they suffer a lot, and it's not their fault, but due to the world's bad karma mostly. The harmed enjoy dreaming everything's OK with them, and no one should inform them otherwise. I wouldn't want any one of them to shed a single tear because of me and my words, or anything you might say to any one of them if you are open to this subject. Secret knowledge is only for people who can handle it, and my challenge in public forums -- an impossible challenge perhaps, but I love 'impossible' -- is to get something online, share knowledge with 'the good' who might be able to protect or help themselves with it -- without getting too many people upset....Sigh....

 

My soul seems to be compelling me to share the topic. Only time will tell if it's something I can further proceed to share without some kind of bad karma for me. I'm either going to be justified in sharing it, or the dumbest person for trying to share occult knowledge. I know if I travelled in a time machine back to anywhere between year 0 and 1700, and spoke of it then, I'd be burned at the stake or something else lovely quick as a wink. One strange thing is that I'm initiating this proposal in a cycle that basically means it's going to fail or be vetoed, perhaps even by myself. I was encouraged by that other general public forum post acceptance, though. I could share the link for it, but I'd rather conduct this poll first. Of course, I generally forget that many people are protected from subjects they don't relate to or find disturbing somehow by simply denying there's any truth to them. I tend to worry sometimes; but overconfidence is also hazardous.

 

As far as I know, I am probably the only one in the world who is talking about this heavy occult subject. It's 'just about people', but it's heavy. It's fairly simple to understand. It seems clear that this subject has been concealed from the public for perhaps thousands of years, and now here I am contemplating its revelation here at TDB. I posted a longish piece called 'Identifying Evil and The Dead' at a general public forum, and no one was upset with it. I noticed someone talking about 'the dead' in their blog. It seems people are open-minded enough to accept it as 'just another subject' (?).

 

However, regarding my idea of an intro here at TDB I must be cautious and wait for your feedback before I post anything. I'm impressed with the TDB forum, my first exposure to a forum for followers of the Dao or spiritual path, the physical disciplines of course being important too. Those interested in a Path at philosophy forums are rare; there's a lot of babbling and ego clashes there.

Because I've hardly begun here, I don't really want to risk being banned, but anything is possible even though I've had a wonderful welcome so far. However, sharing Truth is my number one priority without regard for how people respond to my stuff. I'm not happy unless I can share the things I have learned the hard way, with the hope that perhaps even one 'good' person could benefit from my words. The bottom line in sharing philosophical writing and Truths gained is that the process of sharing must really be for one's Self, and an expression of Self-Love.

 

Real philosophical expression is, much like singing or other arts, individual performance then an exit from the stage, where another writer is waiting in the wings. It's like in a musical evening everyone gets a chance to perform. One does one's bit and hands off to the next performer. The debates and ego-defense seen in philosophy forums only proves that those who do that are not philosophers.

 

'Truthful words are not beautiful.
Beautiful words are not truthful.
Good men do not argue.
Those that argue are not good.
Those who know are not learned.
The learned do not know'.
(Lao Tzu, Daodejing Ch. 81)

 

Here 'my friend' Mr. Lao could be summarizing the average philosophy forum experience from my own viewpoint. I see I'm digressing but no harm. Opening up with one's feelings on things may help responders give me their best, so I might get an idea whether its wise to reveal 'the harmed ones' which seems to have been kept secret for ages because the harmed are the most dangerous segment of the population, though not all of them. They are users, predators and morally clueless people. 'Good' people or 'the living' can't stand the thought of abusing or hurting others. I'm one of the living, and its only the living I should really share 'the topic' with. And how can one restrict the thread to the living?

 

Harmed ones would be warned -- in an indirect way; one never says anything like 'the bad' should not read this -- at the top of the introduction to '....the dead' in the following way, so you'll get an idea.... I have to discourage children too, first....

 

"This piece is not appropriate for children or mentally or emotionally vulnerable adults. If you're suffering from depression, do not read this. If you're someone who thinks that 'love is just a four letter word' and have no belief in a God of any kind, you should not read this. If you're a member of a religion, it's best that you not read this. If you have mentally said 'yes' to any of the aforegoing, once you close this thread, I'm asking you to please not read anything written by me, Luxin. If you disregard my words here and read this piece, and you begin to feel antagonism or any other emotional disturbance, please do not read any more of my writing because I do not want you to get upset at anything I say in this thread, and I wish you a good day. Thank you".

 

The above warning needs work and shortening if possible. It's so verbose, some might be more curious to read it, but I left it as is.

(DISREGARD THIS SENTENCE, DRAFT ONLY:) Please tell me what you think and don't hold any thought back. Much appreciated....Give me the bad news early please, if you have any for me. If you wish, dear Leaders, I could provide the link for my piece at the other forum so you could get more of an idea reading it there. It occurred to me just now after I wrote all of the above (left as is) that providing the link by private message might be the best thing, because it may be possible that some Dao Bums are in need of material and feedback of a greater therapeutic nature than 'the dead'! It won't bother me at all if you need to delete this post from my intro. Thank you.

Truth and Love, Junior Bum Luxin

 

**********END OF DRAFT ONLY***************

 

[Kar3n]

You may post your work in part or as a whole, by link or how you please. The Esoteric and Occult sub forum would be a good place to put it.

 

TDB is an eclectic and egalitarian community, accepting of many different views.  

Welcome

[Luxin]

Thank you, Kar3n for your advice and welcome.

Your fellow Dao Bum Luxin

[Luxin]

November 8, 2018 

 

TOP FAREWELL NOTE....

 

Dear DBs,

 

After careful reflection I have decided to bow out of this forum. I now realize I shouldn't be here because ... and I don't ... here. To be honest, I haven't ....

 

The only people here I will have nice memories of are Marblehead, who surprised me by saying this is a forum where humor is allowed -- but I never really saw it. It was a nice fantasy that it could be possible for a while anyway. Another obviously fine person is Zen Pig -- take care, pawdner. This is m' last rodayoh here ah reckon.

 

Thank you for giving my stuff a chance anyway.

 

Lovin' you all deep down and movin' on....Wherever I go there is more to learn, and 'It's all good' as the ancient rabbis said.

 

Luxin the head wrangler.

 

My sharer Mr. Lao wrote:

 

Those that know me are few;
Those that abuse me are honored.
Therefore the sage wears rough clothing
  and holds the jewel in his heart. (TTC 70)

 

Other men are sharp and clever,
But I alone am dull and stupid. (Ch. 20)

 

When wisdom and intelligence are born,
The great pretense begins. (Ch. 18)

 

Accept disgrace willingly.
Accept misfortune as the human condition.
What do you mean by 'accept disgrace willingly?'
Accept being unimportant.
Do not be concerned with loss or gain.
This is called 'accepting disgrace willingly'.
Surrender yourself humbly;
Then you can be trusted to care for all things.
Love the world as your own self;
Then you can truly care for all things. (Ch. 13)

 

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November 8, 2018 

 

Re:  New and second intro for Luxin which supersedes
my original intro dated October 24, 2018.

 

Hello fellow DBs,

 

My intro below talks of myself in the third person ... it's long as usual by I'm a person who needs to understand and provide as much clarity as possible in order to:

 

1) discover whether or not I should continue to be here at DB;

2) let people know more or less EXACTLY what I'm about so they have some concept of me (if they care), true or false.

3) help others to understand me, because I am a sharer, not a student, though I still learn things from anyone and everyone so I can grow to become a better sharer.

 

My writing includes original metaphysics and is based on the esoteric and occult. Some of the occult I have actually discovered myself through my own experiences. I also write on ethics, for which there is no forum here.

 

THE WRITER:

 

~ is not a student of any teacher or group, and is not someone who needs or is looking for any particular teacher. I am a teacher ... However, to be precise, I am NOT a 'teacher' but a sharer. For those who can understand it, I wish to clarify this: I reject the notion of a 'teacher', as no one can actually 'teach' another person in the sense of 'uplifting them with knowledge directly'. What people learn is what they teach themselves through understanding the subject. The correct substitutive term for 'teacher' is sharer, as all a nominal 'teacher' can do is share knowledge with others. The actual learning or not learning is the business of the student. No 'teacher' or sharer can make anyone learn any subject if they don't have the capacity to learn that subject.

 

In addition, I do have many 'teachers', but not the living kind that a number of DB seem to be open to. My best 'teacher' was my second wife, who never 'taught' me anything 'directly', but was my 'teacher' nevertheless, because I learned more from her than anyone else in my life, though she was not philosophical or intellectual at all. My other 'teachers' are all deceased: Christ, Lao Tzu, etc. Through their Logia I have learned an enormous amount.

 

Furthermore, though I am a sharer through the written word, I cannot have any 'live' students as I cannot do that being a recluse and very careful about my environment. Also, I'm not a false prophet that is invariably compelled -- along with the truth that they do teach -- to use their position of respect and 'authority' as a cover for their abuses of their students. I have witnessed -- from a distance -- the abuses of false 'teachers', both financial and sexual, and that were beyond belief. I don't speak of their names or what they did because the memory of the spiritually dead should be 'buried and forgotten' -- though all one can really do is not speak of them, as their depraved deeds cannot be forgotten.

 

~ is a secular adherent of the Wisdom of Christ, Lao Tzu, Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle, Confucius, Spinoza, The Dhammapada, and the Chandogya Upanishad, and an inclusive eclectic pantheistic metempsychosic lapsarian Number philosopher ('Philo Sophia') that chooses mental freedom as distinct from the mental slavery of the professed philosophers.

 

~ mourns the death of the philosophy that thrived 2500 years ago and which included gnosis, metempsychosic revelation, physiognomy and qualitative number.

 

~ does not read others' writing in depth ... writes original metaphysics based on esoterica and the occult.

 

~ obtained Qualitative Number from false prophets at 19; a scandal emerged 40 years later evincing the bad karma of false prophecy from their incomplete teaching; as I was always more an observer than a member, the ruinous bad karma didn't affect me so much.

 

~  after realizing a dangerous knowledge years ago, (which along with Number forms true prophecy), noticed it 'hidden in plain sight' in the teachings of Hinduism (and other religions, but most apparent in Hinduism), and enjoys the challenge of sharing whatever Truth I deem to be discreetly shareable online, and concealing the rest.

 

~ was compelled by experiences with the dead to become an authority on evil and the spiritually dead, who are blameless victims of bad karma compelled to do evil.

 

~ since his teens has been guided by a soul that knew he had to be prevented from a fate worse than death; writes solely out of Love and Compassion, avoiding the sin of mercenariness.

 

~ has had 3 wives; did office work for 30 years; was a white hat hacker; was a blues guitarist-singer-bandleader; now sings operatic arias; vegetarian; no substances ever; former porn fan for 50 years (saw a black abyss waiting); exercise and breathing nut; frequently uses himself to illustrate a point, aware that the false prophets reveal little of themselves for fear of losing business. Confucius said, 'The proud man is not dignified, and the dignified man is not proud'.

 

~ is a comedian. Out of compassion for the humorless who need to be left in peace, I try not to use humor. I promise to do my best here, anyway. The humorous and the dead serious are a disaster together, but I have learned from the example of Pythagoras - who was definitely a comedian -- to seriously limit humor 'in the classroom' (which is anytime I'm here at DB) because of its disruptive effect upon solemn reflection upon the deadly serious topics of Life and philosophy, which are basically one subject.

 

~ has a concept of Truth and Love which equates with the Taiji, Truth representing Yang or the masculine 1 quality's inspiring vibrational power, and Love being feminine Yin's 2 quality, a unifying, restful but lifting force that with the Truth creates Life or beings symbolized by:  the 3 quality, the third realm, or the Taiji in this concept; the child; or Wisdom (3 or Spiritual Life as a merging of 1 = positive Spirit and 2 = negative mind).

 

MY FOOTER:

 

This is my 'thought song'. I'm singing it out of Self-Love for my self and my Self, not for your self and Self; however, if you like it, then it is for your two selves. When you're done listening, then it may be time for your 'thought song'. Let's hear your song. Nobody should judge a song; a song is for listening to and reflecting upon. A song is for the singer unless we like it, then 'it's ours' too. Self-Love is not selfish -- it's the love of God in one's Self.

 

[Luxin]

November 8, 2018

 

It's very sad to witness the death of Love,
O dearest of beings,
The tragic death of Love.

Why do I return to tell thee this?
Because I love,
And forgive you,
For you know not what you do.

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'If God lived on earth, they would break his windows'.
(Yenta, Fiddler on The Roof)

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Without Love, all is lost.

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FX, thank you, I did enjoy my time here.
It just wasn't meant to be.
All the best to you.

 

[Marblehead]

5 hours ago, Luxin said:

TOP FAREWELL NOTE....

 

Dear DBs,

 

After careful reflection I have decided to bow out of this forum. I now realize I shouldn't be here because ... and I don't ... here. To be honest, I haven't ....

 

The only people here I will have nice memories of are Marblehead, who surprised me by saying this is a forum where humor is allowed -- but I never really saw it. It was a nice fantasy that it could be possible for a while anyway. Another obviously fine person is Zen Pig -- take care, pawdner. This is m' last rodayoh here ah reckon.

Hi Luxin,

 

I can't say anything about your decision.

 

But I will say, "Sad to see you go."

 

There is humor here.  It's just that most of us are complicated people and it takes time to understand us.  Once you understand us you can see how humorous we are.

 

May you enjoy your journey wherever it might lead you.