The Brexit Thread

[Patrick Brown]

"nebulous and imprecise"

 

Translated as:

 

Full of Shit!

 

Vacuous and Chaotic!

 

Menopausal!

 

Ops sorry about that last one ladies. 

 

 

[Patrick Brown]

So she's up any second, will she tell the EU where to go? If she doesn't she will have hit 'rock bottom' and probably should stay abroad! 

[Chang]

Albert Einstein is broadly credited with exclaiming “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”.

 

May continues to go cap in hand to the Eurocrats bargaining from a position that has gone from weakness to desperation. What on earth does she expect to happen?

 

Whilst I would not go so far as to say that May is insane there can be little doubt that she is far from being the sharpest knife in the drawer.

 

We should also ask the question of who is most lacking in wits? Theresa or those dupes who still support her?

 

But these are questions asked by those who wish to step aside from the European Tyranny once and for all. For those who desire to, at the very least, remain clinging to the apron strings of Europe then May is doing very well indeed.

[Miffymog]

7 minutes ago, Chang said:

Albert Einstein is broadly credited with exclaiming “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”.

 

May continues to go cap in hand to the Eurocrats bargaining from a position that has gone from weakness to desperation. What on earth does she expect to happen?

 

Whilst I would not go so far as to say that May is insane there can be little doubt that she is far from being the sharpest knife in the drawer.

 

We should also ask the question of who is most lacking in wits? Theresa or those dupes who still support her?

 

But these are questions asked by those who wish to step aside from the European Tyranny once and for all. For those who desire to, at the very least, remain clinging to the apron strings of Europe then May is doing very well indeed.

 

 

[Patrick Brown]

3 minutes ago, Chang said:

But these are questions asked by those who wish to step aside from the European Tyranny once and for all. For those who desire to, at the very least, remain clinging to the apron strings of Europe then May is doing very well indeed.

 

I often get the impression that's she's just trying to wind the leave camp up! She had a massive opportunity in that press conference to say something like "Based on the current stance of the EU I have no choice but to start implementations from today to leave on WTO rules. I leave it to the EU to decide whether they wish to continue to work with the UK or not?", and then leave them to stew! 

 

Of course she'll never do that because she's spineless! 

[Patrick Brown]

2 minutes ago, Miffymog said:

 

 

 

Stop gloating! 

[Patrick Brown]

Quote

Yellow Vest protests SPREAD to UK: Brexit supporters SHUT DOWN central London

THE turmoil that has engulfed France in the last few weeks looks to have crossed the channel, as dozens of Yellow Vest protestors swarmed Westminster Bridge today.

Source: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1058975/yellow-vest-protest-video-pro-brevet-protest-westminster-bridge-blocked

 

Well I think we need more than a handful of pissed-up Brexiteers to make any real difference! 

Edited December 14, 2018 by Patrick Brown

[Miffymog]

 

1 hour ago, Patrick Brown said:

 

Well I think we need more than a handful of pissed-up Brexiteers to make any real difference! 

 

We don't have revolution in our blood like the French. But, Labour has it's seats in parliament due to Brexiteers, the country will be divided on this issue either way what ever happens.

 

Interesting listening to an EU press conference. Brexit took up 1/3 of it, uncontrolled migration from Africa, the other 2/3 rds ...

[Miffymog]

May has said she'll bring the vote on her deal forward so it's earlier than January 21st. This is sensible so there's more time to sort out the fall out. However, she'll probably leave all of this stuff until the New Year so that it does not hang over Christmas in some strange state.

[Miffymog]

7 minutes ago, Miffymog said:

 

 

We don't have revolution in our blood like the French. But, Labour has it's seats in parliament due to Brexiteers, the country will be divided on this issue either way what ever happens.

 

Interesting listening to an EU press conference. Brexit took up 1/3 of it, uncontrolled migration from Africa, the other 2/3 rds ...

 

Worth repeating, one of the most significant EU issues is uncontrolled migration ...

[Patrick Brown]

2 minutes ago, Miffymog said:

Interesting listening to an EU press conference. Brexit took up 1/3 of it, uncontrolled migration from Africa, the other 2/3 rds ...

 

Well there's more and more economic migrants or to put it blatantly greedy people! Hey the UK is a nice country and we all built it together but who ever said we should just give our paradise away to anybody? Of course it's not a paradise but we like it and we would like it to remain nice, yes?  

 

Over the years I've lost count of the number of people, from other countries, that can't wait to get to America and there's a lot of migrants here that see America as the promised land. Of course there's also those that come here to make a buck and then send it out of the country which I suppose cuts both ways. Of course migration is an issue and I don't have any problem with skilled people coming to the UK but I don't, and never did,, buy into the open door policy which I believe is just asking for trouble. 

 

And just for the record I have lived in America, for a few months, and I didn't like it much. 

[Apech]

Just now, Patrick Brown said:

 

Well there's more and more economic migrants or to put it blatantly greedy people! Hey the UK is a nice country and we all built it together but who ever said we should just give our paradise away to anybody? Of course it's not a paradise but we like it and we would like it to remain nice, yes?  

 

Over the years I've lost count of the number of people, from other countries, that can't wait to get to America and there's a lot of migrants here that see America as the promised land. Of course there's also those that come here to make a buck and then send it out of the country which I suppose cuts both ways. Of course migration is an issue and I don't have any problem with skilled people coming to the UK but I don't, and never did,, buy into the open door policy which I believe is just asking for trouble. 

 

And just for the record I have lived in America, for a few months, and I didn't like it much. 

 

Come on, economic migrants are not greedy in that sense - ok they are coming from poor countries and want a better life for themselves, to work and send money back to their families (for the most part).  It's not their fault if we have borders that are not properly maintained.  The people at fault are the traffickers who take their money and offer them an illegal route to more prospects of prosperity.

 

The EU has shown its self incompetent to deal with this issue and had at least three complete reversals of policy e.g. Merkels virtue signalling.  Had they acted swiftly and effectively to police the traffickers and maintain the proper visa route for immigration then I am sure Brexit would have never happened.

 

 

[Apech]

It's an interesting thought how clever the Irish as part of EU have used the 'exploit' of the NI/Irish border to undermine Brexit.  The leverage it has given them has been major.

 

Yet again with May's latest visit the EU has proved intransigent as regards anything which looks like genuine negotiation.  Rather than offering her some kind of olive branch - some weasel words around a protocol for ending the back-stop - it's just been non/nein so far.  Perhaps they want her to fail and force a second referendum.  Or just they are obdurate and ossified in their own inability to address issues in a positive and pragmatic way.  Which of course is one of reasons that hardly anyone, even Remainers thinks much of the EU as an institution.

[Patrick Brown]

3 minutes ago, Apech said:

Come on, economic migrants are not greedy in that sense

 

Well perhaps I'm a bit harsh but a lot of them, not all, seem really driven to simply make a ton of money. Of course there's people that are driven to make money all over the world but I wouldn't like the UK to turn into American where having more money is the 'be-all and end-all' for the majority of people. What's wrong with a relaxed simple life without all the bells and whistles? 

[Patrick Brown]

3 minutes ago, Apech said:

It's an interesting thought how clever the Irish as part of EU have used the 'exploit' of the NI/Irish border to undermine Brexit.  The leverage it has given them has been major.

 

Yes I thought that as well. 

[Apech]

2 minutes ago, Patrick Brown said:

 

Well perhaps I'm a bit harsh but a lot of them, not all, seem really driven to simply make a ton of money. Of course there's people that are driven to make money all over the world but I wouldn't like the UK to turn into American where having more money is the 'be-all and end-all' for the majority of people. What's wrong with a relaxed simple life without all the bells and whistles? 

 

People take up opportunities that present themselves.  You can't really blame them.  Our ire should be directed at those that we elect to govern us if they fail.

 

 

[Patrick Brown]

4 minutes ago, Apech said:

 

People take up opportunities that present themselves.  You can't really blame them.  Our ire should be directed at those that we elect to govern us if they fail.

 

 

 

Well the Germans are not very happy with Merkel, luckily we had the sense to not be a part of that Shegan Zone which could have meant any Tom-Dick and Harry coming into our country!

 

Yes we like the respectful migrants of whatever background but the arrogant ones that think they deserve to be here and are better than us...

[rideforever]

Look closely at her face, what do you see.   Interesting to look carefully.

Mouth has fear, like fearful bladder.

Eyes have some strength coming from strong forehead.

Left eye confident clam, right eye angry tense?

 

[rideforever]

3 hours ago, Miffymog said:

Interesting listening to an EU press conference. Brexit took up 1/3 of it, uncontrolled migration from Africa, the other 2/3 rds ...

 

Migration is a lie.   People talk about it being a problem.   But they have different perspective on what problem is.
For public problem is invasion plus destruction of culture, jobs health service pressure.

For EU problem is people complain.

Then they have meeting about migration problem !   But they not say what the problem is.

 

Migration is not problem, it is plan by globalist agenda which serves 1%.  For 1% lives behind gated house, then private restaurant, private palace in Monaco and 4 blonde ukrainian ex-wives.   Politicians do their bidding.  Destroy ancient European wealth, flatten all laws regions tradiions to make one economy ... i.e. one field of plundering.  No more ancient rules, corporation comes lays waste to all culture.   Afterleaves, everyone has mcjob, many unemployed, all culture plundered, all products now made of plastic and palm oil, hedge fund and 1% congratulate self and order champagne, entire nation finished.   Then people very unhappy.  Politicians come again give "values".

 

Such stupid "economy" (i.e. plan to make 1% even richer) means like false yang, then GDP will decline and organs weak,  GDP only thing people ever see so politicians need quick fix to raise "GDP", then million more people even if barrista jobs =  GDP little higher.   Then EU can say doing nice job.   Is doing nice job, but secret job that people cannot say.

 

All political discussion nobody allowed to mention these truths, will have many serious and deep conversations with every views expressed .... apart from truth of what is happening.   Is like group lie, with white elephant size on Jupiter (quite big now).

 

Sad.  When organism is weak, then infection with parasite easy as well.   Always assisting forces (politicians) come to help parasite destroy whole being.

 

Many people all with mcjob, no culture, technology means littte work, all different nations cultures on facebook.  Very sad future for Europe, once home of giant people now .... what is future ?  Maybe only country like Italy which has secret mafia government will retain culture, not sure, they busy having sex with everything that moves but also makes so much mess no new infection will get them.   Maybe EU dies before Italy sex maniacs, they too busy to be infected with globalists !!!

In Sicily there is woman holding chicken in black dress, very traditional.

 

Like Tao says become like useless tree then nobody cut you down.

Good plan.

Then you hide in plain sight, but just play bad music and have ugly face and everyone leave you alone ... wait maybe TM is tao genius ?  Not sure.   Genius and fool very close.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2018 by rideforever

[Chang]

2 hours ago, Apech said:

 

Come on, economic migrants are not greedy in that sense - ok they are coming from poor countries and want a better life for themselves, to work and send money back to their families (for the most part).  It's not their fault if we have borders that are not properly maintained.  The people at fault are the traffickers who take their money and offer them an illegal route to more prospects of prosperity.

 

The EU has shown its self incompetent to deal with this issue and had at least three complete reversals of policy e.g. Merkels virtue signalling.  Had they acted swiftly and effectively to police the traffickers and maintain the proper visa route for immigration then I am sure Brexit would have never happened.

 

 

 

You are doubtless a good and decent man Apech and this can probably be put down to your Boring Buddhist leanings. Unfortunately you are seriously deluded as regards immigration into Europe.

 

The E.U. is a Cultural Marxist organisation whose policy regarding immigration and race is based on the Kalergi Plan.

 

"In an interview in the first Pan-European Congress in 1926, Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi expressed the support of Jews by the Pan-European movement and the benefits to Jews with the elimination of racial hatred and economic rivalry brought by the United States of Europe. ... The man of the future will be of mixed race.  Not many people have heard of the Kalergia Pan-European Plan for Europe. ... Warburg financed Kalergi to help form his European movement.Kalergi urged not only the destruction of European states, but also the deliberate genocide of indigenous peoples through forced mass migration."

 

You can read up on Kalergi should you so wish and you will find that Merkel has been honoured by the movement. It's all good for a laugh chaps and I have gradually come to the conclusion that the Kalergi movement are well on the way to achieving their objectives.

 

Whilst the E.U. have actively encouraged mass (mostly Muslim) immigration we cannot expect Brexit to make a deal of difference to the multi culturalisation of the U.K. All of the major parties as well as mass media laud diversity. Prime Drip May, like Cameron before her fawn over Islam.

 

 

[Chang]

It is indeed sad Apech that we should have reached this state of affairs but I suspect that you imply that it is I who am sad for suggesting such a thing.

 

I remember a recent thread regarding Muslim rape gangs operating within the U.K. and you plainly stated your disgust that such things took place under the very eyes of our Police and Social Services.

 

I am not suggesting that Kalergi and the Cultural Marxists have in any way supported such gangs but their ideology has certainly allowed such things to happen, just as the tide of Islamic terrorism will rise in direct proportion to the Muslim population in a given country.

 

Immigration was a major reason the Brexiteers won the vote but as I have already stated leaving the E.U. may have little effect in reducing the most dangerous migrants from reaching our shores and finding safe haven.

[Apech]

3 hours ago, Chang said:

It is indeed sad Apech that we should have reached this state of affairs but I suspect that you imply that it is I who am sad for suggesting such a thing.

 

I remember a recent thread regarding Muslim rape gangs operating within the U.K. and you plainly stated your disgust that such things took place under the very eyes of our Police and Social Services.

 

I am not suggesting that Kalergi and the Cultural Marxists have in any way supported such gangs but their ideology has certainly allowed such things to happen, just as the tide of Islamic terrorism will rise in direct proportion to the Muslim population in a given country.

 

Immigration was a major reason the Brexiteers won the vote but as I have already stated leaving the E.U. may have little effect in reducing the most dangerous migrants from reaching our shores and finding safe haven.

 

 

I was just being effortlessly annoying.

[Jetsun]

So what is the alternative to May? There is nobody, Boris or Gove , complete imbeciles with absolute zero electibility. What baffles me is that there is a part of the Tory party who have been campaigning on this for generations, but now they are in the position they have been working for they have absolutely no idea what to do... pathetic

[Chang]

7 hours ago, Jetsun said:

So what is the alternative to May? There is nobody, Boris or Gove , complete imbeciles with absolute zero electibility. What baffles me is that there is a part of the Tory party who have been campaigning on this for generations, but now they are in the position they have been working for they have absolutely no idea what to do... pathetic

 

You have pretty much hit the nail on the head and it is indeed a very sad state of affairs.

 

The Tories will teeter along to the next election when we will most likely end up with a Labour government. Corbyn, though a dangerous Marxist, comes across as a charismatic and decent man. He has the youth vote along with most of the immigrant (certainly the Muslim) vote. Once the Socialists are in power we will be left like passengers in a ship captained and crewed by lunatics.

 

But as i keep saying, there will still be laughs to be had along the way.

[Miffymog]

Philip Hamond, David Gauke, Amber Rudd, Greg Clarke, and David Lidington understood to be softening on second referendum 'to break the deadlock' - Daily Mail

 

The second referendum is getting closer - but what goes on the ballot paper

 

PLUS

 

May is thinking about having the vote on her deal next week - knowing it'll get voted down - in order to move things on.

 

Farage seems to be calling for second referendum knowing the strength of public opinion against the EU.

Edited December 15, 2018 by Miffymog