The Brexit Thread

[Patrick Brown]

We like waffles! 

 

 

[Patrick Brown]

AND! While I'm in YouTube mode, this is why people don't like Dianne Abbot, basically she's incompetent: 

 

EDIT: And a blatant racist! 

 

 

Edited January 24, 2019 by Patrick Brown

[Chang]

A point to ponder:-

 

Even if we achieve Brexit and shake off the shackes of European tyrany we will still be left with the same bunch of Cultural Marxists (The Establishment) ruling in the U.K. Theresa May will still be P.M., Corbyn will still be hoping to win the next general election and the BBC will still be pumping out multi ethnic, multi cultural crap on tv. Illegal immigration will continue and we will still be paying the illegal immigrants benefits as soon as they arrive seeking "assylum".

 

Brexit is only the beginning of putting things to right.

 

 

[Patrick Brown]

4 minutes ago, Chang said:

A point to ponder:-

 

Even if we achieve Brexit and shake off the shackes of European tyrany we will still be left with the same bunch of Cultural Marxists (The Establishment) ruling in the U.K. Theresa May will still be P.M., Corbyn will still be hoping to win the next general election and the BBC will still be pumping out multi ethnic, multi cultural crap on tv. Illegal immigration will continue and we will still be paying the illegal immigrants benefits as soon as they arrive seeking "assylum".

 

Brexit is only the beginning of putting things to right.

 

 

 

I think more and more people are waking up. Unfortunately the conditioning of the younger generations is going to be problematic. When I say the far-left has become the new far-right I'm not being glib. The benefits of being uneducated far out way the problems of the indoctrinated. 

 

Fundamentalist = Fun + Mental + List (agenda) = Equals the pseudo educated (indoctrinated) young students of today!!!

 

So the indoctrinated, but in reality uneducated, young students of today are the terrorist of tomorrow. What they fighting for? BuSINess, multiculturalism, political correctness and a global government that honestly has the best interests of people at heart! 

 

We're probably all fucked!    

 

 

 

Even the dictionaries are being fucked with! Since when has fundamentalism been specifically religious? Obviously some educated #### thought they could get away with seeming clever!!!!!!!!!!  

 

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fundamentalist
/ˌfʌndəˈmɛnt(ə)lɪst/Submit
noun
1.
a person who believes in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture in a religion.
"religious fundamentalists"
adjective
1.
relating to or advocating the strict, literal interpretation of scripture.
"a fundamentalist Protestant preacher"

 

Source (google): https://www.google.com/search?num=100&rlz=1C1CHBF_enGB806GB806&ei=tYdJXMWlNq-l_QbG276IDw&q=Fundamentalist+definnition&oq=Fundamentalist+definnition&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13l5j0i13i30j0i13i10i30j0i13i30l3.5825.8710..8997...0.0..0.218.1781.0j11j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i67j0j0i22i30j0i13i5i30j0i8i13i30j0i8i13i10i30.MGOjy58Zans

 

Seems that Wikipedia isn't as bad as many purport:

 

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Fundamentalism usually has a religious connotation that indicates unwavering attachment to a set of irreducible beliefs.[1] However, fundamentalism has come to be applied to a tendency among certain groups–mainly, although not exclusively, in religion–that is characterized by a markedly strict literalism as it is applied to certain specific scriptures, dogmas, or ideologies, and a strong sense of the importance of maintaining ingroup and outgroup distinctions,[2][3][4][5] leading to an emphasis on purity and the desire to return to a previous ideal from which advocates believe members have strayed. Rejection of diversity of opinion as applied to these established "fundamentals" and their accepted interpretation within the group often results from this tendency.[6]

 

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalism

 

[Apech]

37 minutes ago, Chang said:

A point to ponder:-

 

Even if we achieve Brexit and shake off the shackes of European tyrany we will still be left with the same bunch of Cultural Marxists (The Establishment) ruling in the U.K. Theresa May will still be P.M., Corbyn will still be hoping to win the next general election and the BBC will still be pumping out multi ethnic, multi cultural crap on tv. Illegal immigration will continue and we will still be paying the illegal immigrants benefits as soon as they arrive seeking "assylum".

 

Brexit is only the beginning of putting things to right.

 

 

 

 

Chang,

 

You know how this ends, right?  A bunker, a pistol and a can of kerosene.

 

 

 

[Chang]

1 hour ago, Apech said:

 

 

Chang,

 

You know how this ends, right?  A bunker, a pistol and a can of kerosene.

 

 

 

 

But I am not an Austrian, neither am I a vegetarian and I have better taste in facial hair.

 

More appropriately you know that what I say is true. We may yet rid ourselves of the E.U. lunacy but we will still be left with the Cultural Marxist zeitgeist of the British Establishment.

 

Obviously you are happy to simply accept this but growing numbers are taking the red pill and demanding change. Interesting times.

[Patrick Brown]

1 hour ago, Chang said:

More appropriately you know that what I say is true. We may yet rid ourselves of the E.U. lunacy but we will still be left with the Cultural Marxist zeitgeist of the British Establishment.

 

To be thorough and leave no doubt all societal structures are derived for those that would lead. Yes they establish a structure and hierarchy as a basis for the group to grow. Unfortunately the motives of these 'leaders' is not altruistic and never was, never is and never can be as it is simply an assertion of the ego as a statement of self-importance and self-righteousness. There is a strong coloration between the growth of civilisation and religion as highlighted by Toynbee, Campbell and Jaynes ("The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind", which I've never read but then again I value my sanity).

 

So all societies are evolved by egotists who succumb to desire as is human nature. The building of empires and the controlling of the masses is the game these 'leaders' and 'controllers' play. Of course the curtain has been pulled back and the hierarchy revealed (Alice Bailey's Hierarchy perhaps - the loony that she was!!) but the armies have been primed (the indoctrinated) and the masses enslaved within their desires and materialism's.

 

Some suggest the next play will be to allow the masses to create unrest and disaster so that people will intern run into the arms of 'Big Brother' shouting 'protect us' and 'save us' and so the false prophet is born the 'Beast' sits on his throne and 'Babylon the Great' is born!!!

 

Same old story but just at a global level this time. Come on peeps it's all about cycles!    

 

No I'm not religious or educated or anything really. I'm just...

 

So as said, we're all fucked!  

 

Edited January 24, 2019 by Patrick Brown

[Apech]

On 1/24/2019 at 11:13 AM, Chang said:

 

But I am not an Austrian, neither am I a vegetarian and I have better taste in facial hair.

 

More appropriately you know that what I say is true. We may yet rid ourselves of the E.U. lunacy but we will still be left with the Cultural Marxist zeitgeist of the British Establishment.

 

Obviously you are happy to simply accept this but growing numbers are taking the red pill and demanding change. Interesting times.

 

 

I think you highlight a valid point there.  Brexit has become a cure-all for some - as if some kind of sun lit Shangrila awaits us on leaving.  While actually for most ordinary people it has the potential to be quite harmful in terms of jobs and so on.  Those who push for a hard Brexit will be ok - because they have invested their money in the right things - the idea that they want this for the good of most people is to be honest laughable.

 

As to cultural Marxism as a veteran of the eighties at Manchester City Council - where I worked - I have all the scars from intersectionalism and political correctness and I know well its effects and outcomes better than most people.

[Chang]

17 minutes ago, Apech said:

 

 

I think you highlight a valid point there.  Brexit has become a cure-all for some - as if some kind of sun lit Shangrila awaits us on leaving.  While actually for most ordinary people it has the potential to be quite harmful in terms of jobs and so on.  Those who push for a hard Brexit will be ok - because they have invested their money in the right things - the idea that they want this for the good of most people is to be honest laughable.

 

As to cultural Marxism as a veteran of the eighties at Manchester City Council - where I worked - I have all the scars from intersectionalism and political correctness and I know well its effects and outcomes better than most people.

 

It is also well to ponder the fact that our political class, of all pursuasions, have been completely discredited by the Brexit fiasco.

 

With the expenses scandal still fresh in the memory of the electorate the Politico's have now shown their contempt for both democracy (the result of the referendum) and the voters. It is clear to all that these people do not represent their constituents but rather self interest, big business and or Marxist and Liberal ideals.

 

There will undoubtably be unrest within the populace for some time to come. Whether this is played out using democracy and the vote or with violence on the streets remains to be seen.

 

"They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords,
Lords without anger or honour, who dare not carry their swords.
They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes;
They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies.
And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs,
Their doors are shut in the evening; and they know no songs.

We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet,
Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street.
It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first,
Our wrath come after Russia's wrath and our wrath be the worst.
It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest
God's scorn for all men governing. It may be beer is best.
But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.
Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget. "

 

 

Much unpleasantness ahead but also some fun and games.

[Patrick Brown]

Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019:  https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963

[Patrick Brown]

Not only was this stream cut partway into the show it has now also been made 'Unlisted' on YouTube!!!! Are the establishment getting worried? 

 

EDIT: I figured out why the show was cut, Adonis must have complained about comments on the chat calling him a Nazi and got LBC to pull the stream and then make it 'Unlisted'!

 

 

 

 

Edited January 27, 2019 by Patrick Brown

[Patrick Brown]

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Brexit will leave the UK 'unstable' for decades with violence on the streets and independence referendums in Scotland and Northern Ireland, EU intelligence secret report warns

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6639399/Brexit-leave-UK-unstable-decades-violence-streets-EU-secret-report-warns.html

 

OK so how retarded do they think we are?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

 

There is obviously going to be a degree of mayhem because of all the blatant lies and deceit so this secret, stop laughing, BS report is just yet another attempt at pilling up even more chaos. I would suspect EU countries are now queuing up to exit the soon-to-be bottomless pit.  

 

So we may have to ride the storm here in the UK but central Europe and Germany, especially, are going to reap a whirlwind which will make our problems look like a tea party! 

 

[Apech]

27 minutes ago, Patrick Brown said:

 

OK so how retarded do they think we are?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

 

There is obviously going to be a degree of mayhem because of all the blatant lies and deceit so this secret, stop laughing, BS report is just yet another attempt at pilling up even more chaos. I would suspect EU countries are now queuing up to exit the soon-to-be bottomless pit.  

 

So we may have to ride the storm here in the UK but central Europe and Germany, especially, are going to reap a whirlwind which will make our problems look like a tea party! 

 

 

 

As long as we are as stable as France all should be well - no rioting in the streets (if you discount the last 11 weeks)

[Patrick Brown]

4 minutes ago, Apech said:

 

 

As long as we are as stable as France all should be well - no rioting in the streets (if you discount the last 11 weeks)

 

Well watching the match on Saturday all I can say is at least they've consistent. 

[Patrick Brown]

And...

 

...here we have the red scarves protesting at the violence of the Yellow Vests:

 

 

You can't make this up! 

 

[Apech]

I am going to start a purple underpants counter protest.

[Patrick Brown]

 

[Patrick Brown]

Article 24 explained, well kind of, (I've jumped the video ahead to the relevant bit): 

 

 

All sounds very simple but is it too simple? 

[Patrick Brown]

Well strangely this site is down which might have given us some insight/understanding of what 'Article 24' is all about:

http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty/treaty-on-the-functioning-of-the-european-union-and-comments/part-2-non-discrimination-and-citizenship-of-the-union/166-article-24.html

 

But we do have this site, possibly with a remain slant, which suggests that 'Article 24' is a red herring:

https://uktradeforum.net/2019/01/26/why-claims-about-a-wto-article-24-interim-agreement-are-a-red-herring/

 

This is on the WTO site but I'm not sure if it's the same thing:

https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/region_e/region_art24_e.htm 

 

So what's the deal? Is 'Article 24' a loophole that the leave camp can use to force Brexit through? 

[Apech]

I something supposed to be happening today?  To be honest I've switched off on Brexit.

[Patrick Brown]

11 minutes ago, Apech said:

I something supposed to be happening today?  To be honest I've switched off on Brexit.

 

Well I've been ill with a heavy cold for four days so I'm not up to speed. Some vote on some BS that May wants to take to the EU which the EU won't accept and even if they do it still won't get through parliament blah blah! Same old shit really! 

 

Be interesting to see if this Article 24 thing has got any legs. 

[Apech]

11 minutes ago, Patrick Brown said:

 

Well I've been ill with a heavy cold for four days so I'm not up to speed. Some vote on some BS that May wants to take to the EU which the EU won't accept and even if they do it still won't get through parliament blah blah! Same old shit really! 

 

Be interesting to see if this Article 24 thing has got any legs. 

 

 

Orange juice and plenty of it, I recommend.

 

 

[Chang]

Yes it is all rumbling on. We should not forget that the Politico's are not only considering Brexit but rather their own positions post Brexit. Who will replace May for the next election etc., etc. All good fun but the Establishment will still be in place for the time being at least.

[Apech]

1 minute ago, Chang said:

Yes it is all rumbling on. We should not forget that the Politico's are not only considering Brexit but rather their own positions post Brexit. Who will replace May for the next election etc., etc. All good fun but the Establishment will still be in place for the time being at least.

 

I think Gove has been promised something ... possibly next PM.  (which horrifies me).

[Chang]

11 minutes ago, Apech said:

 

I think Gove has been promised something ... possibly next PM.  (which horrifies me).

 

I can understand your horror but any such promise would have to be left suitably vague. The Tories are in an unholy mess of their own making and any leadership contest would be an uncertain affair.

 

The next election will be ineresting to say the least with the Conservatives pulling in every direction and the Liberals a bunch of Beta Males and Drippy Women. The Socialists should be in a powerful position but this appears not to be the case at all with Corbyn showing his bare arse every way he turns.

 

All of the three main parties have shown themselves to be of a Cultural Marxist pursuasion, the balance having  been shifting to the left and centre for generations. Such an inbalance has to be "righted" (please excuse the pun) hence the rise in Nationalism. Unfortunately UKIP are in as big a mess as the other parties and are not in a position to take the advantage. My own view is that we shall end up with another parliament in which no party can form a successful government and things will just roll on in the same old way. The general zeitgeist will continue to move to the right though and this will leave the Left Wing Liberal/Cultural Marxist Establishment feeling increasingly uncomfortable.

 

All good fun.