Chang Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Apech said: The Brexit party isn't (yet) a party of government as it has no policies apart from Brexit - and contains MEPs who come from right and left - what unifies them is Brexit. So unless this changes I don't see it being anything other than a lobby for WTO No deal. If you look at the results the only area where Brexit Party didn't come first is London - which highlights the national divide and the Westminster bubble effect. England is literally like a person whose head is disconnected from its body, left like this we will rip ourselves apart. I am afraid that you are correct but not absolutely correct in that you still consider London to be part of England, describing it as the head with the rest of the country representing the body. London is no longer representative of England or indeed the English people. On the contrary it represents all that is amiss in our nation, being multi racial, mutli cultural and Marxist. It is home to the Establishment, the Trendy Lefty, the Globalist and the Libtard. You are also somewhat off the mark when you say that the Brexit Party is not yet a party of government. They are our leading party in the E.U. of which we are still a member and so are our representatives in the European Tyrany. I admit that it is difficult to see how they would remain a political force after we leave the E.U. but you are forgetting that we still appear joined at the hip to Europe and the coming General Election may well be fought with the E.U. as the main point of contention. There are still numerous tub thumping Remainiacs who still want a second referendum as well as a General Election and so the ripping apart point you make is already in progress. Alas for the Remainiacs - Brexit, rather than unifying Europe, has started a fire which appears to be raging as more and more voters turn to the right. Plenty more fun and games to come chaps. Edited May 27, 2019 by Chang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rideforever Posted May 27, 2019 Looks like the acid test will be when the Conservative leader pushes through ... i.e. does nothing on October 31st and we drop out. The only thing that can stop that is a motion of no confidence which it seems is simply more than 50%. Interestingly Chancellor rat Hammond said a couple of days ago on the subject that he had never voted against the Government. And ... If the Tories bail out then we are in G.E. and they will lose big time, so from their point of view it is either push through or become 3rd party. So they would be strongly incentivised. Can Malthouse A work ... if the only problem is whether an invisible border tech is possible, then what needs doing is a trial asap somewhere, but of course it is possible in my opinion. The EU might not agree in any case. Best course could be : Big balls PM (none of the small players), demonstration of technology, Malthouse A or push through which would smell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted May 27, 2019 Nigel Farage live on LBC any second: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted May 27, 2019 Funny, but not funny at the same time. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rideforever Posted May 27, 2019 A more just an equal society ? imo the EU is simply a front for the globalists i.e. the corporations i.e the billionaires. In the end it is very very simple. The money is behind it all and 10 people own half the planet. Leave the EU or die. I really couldn't care too much about the other reasons. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang Posted May 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Apech said: Funny, but not funny at the same time. It is worthy of note that a Marxist pillow biter such as Owen Jones is allowed to film at a Brexit rally. This would not be reciprocated were a right wing journalist to attempt to do the same at a Left Wing Liberal or Socialist event. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) I can't even watch that shill! The BS and smoke is getting thicker by the day. Project confusion has now been added to project fear in an attempt to pervert democracy. This won't end well for the losers. Oh and the thing about gays is they think their clever and love the chaos tactic which is a feminine maneuver of course. To be honest I just think they're, the soy-boys and fems, gullible fanatics that are mentally ill! They're a product of our modern society which is essentially a control mechanism promising free cake for those that pledge allegiance to the beast of vanity and greed. Edited May 28, 2019 by Patrick Brown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted May 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Patrick Brown said: I can't even watch that shill! The BS and smoke is getting thicker by the day. Project confusion has now been added to project fear in an attempt to pervert democracy. This won't end well for the losers. Oh and the thing about gays is they think their clever and love the chaos tactic which is a feminine maneuver of course. To be honest I just think they're, the soy-boys and fems, gullible fanatics that that are mentally ill! They're a product of our modern society which is essentially a control mechanism promising free cake for those that pledge allegiance to the beast of vanity and greed. Like Alan Turing perhaps. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Apech said: Like Alan Turing perhaps. People are people and Owens is of the lesser type regardless of his sexuality simply as a default because he's a politician, of a sort! Anyway I can't stop laughing after hearing Campbell has been booted from the Labour party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Apech said: Like Alan Turing perhaps. A rather low ball remark Apech. You are as well aware as Patrick of the character of Owen Jones. The fact that he is a catamite is of little importance compared to his despicable political beliefs. He is a walking and talking reminder of the degenerate state that the western world has fallen into. Whilst he has a multitude of Guardian reading admirers it makes him no less loathsome to those of independent and rational mind. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted May 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Patrick Brown said: People are people and Owens is of the lesser type regardless of his sexuality simply as a default because he's a politician, of a sort! Anyway I can't stop laughing after hearing Campbell has been booted from the Labour party. 4 minutes ago, Chang said: A rather low ball remark Apech. You are as well aware as Patrick of the character of Owen Jones. The fact that he is a catamite is of little importance compared to his despicable political beliefs. He is a walking and talking reminder of the degenerate state that the western world has fallen into. Whilst he has a multitude of Guardian reading admirers it makes him no less loathsome to those of independent and rational mind. Guys, guys! Owen Jones is an odious dick. Owen Jones is gay. Therefore gay men are odious dicks. False syllogism! Just saying. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted May 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Apech said: Guys, guys! Owen Jones is an odious dick. Owen Jones is gay. Therefore gay men are odious dicks. False syllogism! Just saying. My boyfriend doesn't smell! He's also not an anti semite!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted May 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Patrick Brown said: My boyfriend doesn't smell! He's also not an anti semite!! My boyfriend's got no nose. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang Posted May 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Apech said: Guys, guys! Owen Jones is an odious dick. Owen Jones is gay. Therefore gay men are odious dicks. False syllogism! Just saying. Whilst Jones is certailny an odious dick he was dealt a poor hand at birth (check out his mother) and so I do have some sympathy for him. I do not believe any suggestion has been made by me that all homosexuals are odious dicks and Apech by alluding that this is the case has shown himself to be worthy of employment by the Guardian. Another point worthy of note regarding this despicable excuse for a man (Jones not Apech) is that he identifies himself as an anti establishment figure, even writing a book on the subject. Alas, Jones is himself but a mouthpiece for the Cultural Marxist Establishment who have been in the ascendant in the west since the 1960's. We can therefor add hypocrisy to his list of crimes. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted May 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, Chang said: Whilst Jones is certailny an odious dick he was dealt a poor hand at birth (check out his mother) and so I do have some sympathy for him. I do not believe any suggestion has been made by me that all homosexuals are odious dicks and Apech by alluding that this is the case has shown himself to be worthy of employment by the Guardian. Another point worthy of note regarding this despicable excuse for a man (Jones not Apech) is that he identifies himself as an anti establishment figure, even writing a book on the subject. Alas, Jones is himself but a mouthpiece for the Cultural Marxist Establishment who have been in the ascendant in the west since the 1960's. We can therefor add hypocrisy to his list of crimes. Thank you for the reference I will apply to the Guardian for a job right away. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rideforever Posted May 31, 2019 Scum EU https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1134530/Brexit-news-BBC-UK-EU-Michel-Barnier-European-Union-Theresa-May-Conservative-Party 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rideforever Posted June 3, 2019 Hail to the Chief 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted June 9, 2019 Known convicted electoral fraudster, of Indian Pakistani decent, seen celebrating at Labour election win in Peterbourough! Quote Labour’s narrow victory in the Peterborough by-election was marred last night by claims that a convicted vote rigger was at the centre of their campaign. Quote Jeremy Corbyn faced claims that an ex-Labour member jailed for a postal vote scam had provided vital help in fighting off Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party by just 683 votes. Ex-local Labour branch secretary Tariq Mahmood received a 15-month prison sentence in 2008 for his part in a scheme to fabricate votes for a Peterborough council election. But local Tories claimed Mahmood, pictured sporting a red rosette at the by-election count, was ‘front and centre’ of Labour’s bid to mobilise the Muslim vote. He was also photographed with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn last month, as well as being pictured with eventual by-election winner Lisa Forbes. Labour branded the allegation ‘false and baseless’ yesterday, saying that he was ‘not involved in the running of Labour’s campaign in any way’. Party sources also claimed it was ‘factually incorrect’ to claim Labour had won because of the Muslim vote, pointing out that Peterborough was ‘82.5 per cent white’. But the row erupted after Labour MPs privately told The Mail on Sunday they were hoping the sizeable Muslim vote would come to the party’s rescue last week. Last night, Wayne Fitzgerald, deputy leader of the Conservative-run Peterborough council, said: ‘Tariq Mahmood is a villain and he was front and centre of the Labour campaign within the Muslim community. We receive repeated reports of postal fraud and personation within the largely urban central parts of the city where the Labour vote is strongest.’ Former Peterborough Tory MP Stewart Jackson said: ‘Tariq Mahmood should not be involved in politics at all. He has a record for voter fraud and the fact that he is so close to the Labour campaign speaks volumes about the rottenness of the current Labour Party.’ Six men – three Labour supporters and three Tories – were convicted of electoral fraud after a painstaking operation by Cambridgeshire Police relating to a 2004 local election. All were jailed. Dozens of voters in the Central Ward had turned up at polling stations to vote in the city council elections only to be told that they had already submitted postal votes. Last year, Mahmood, who runs a letting agency, was accused of racism for calling Home Secretary Sajid Javid a ‘coconut’ on Facebook, a racial slur aimed at those deemed to have betrayed their heritage. Mahmood admitted yesterday that he had canvassed for Labour in the by-election. But Mahmood, who said he had always denied voter fraud, insisted: ‘It is quite wrong to say that I played any significant role in Labour’s victory.’ Lisa Forbes won, he said, ‘because she ran a brilliant local campaign about issues that matter to people round here like schools, health and fly tipping’. He added: ‘I met Jeremy Corbyn once when he came to Peterborough last night. I am a supporter and have been a Labour supporter since I was ten.’ Peterborough Council said the postal vote system had been ‘tightened up’, with Peterborough having a ‘national reputation’ for its work to deter electoral fraud’ Labour were forced into the by-election after a recall petition ousted sitting MP Fiona Onasanya who had been convicted of lying to the police about speeding. Local union official Lisa Forbes, a mother of four, is already facing calls from the Jewish Labour Movement to be suspended over liking a social media post that referred to Theresa May serving a ‘Zionist Slave Master’s Agenda’. She has apologised and said that liking the tweet, which showed children praying after the Christchurch terror attack in New Zealand, had been an error. However, fellow Labour MP Wes Streeting has said that Ms Forbes will have to work to show ‘she is genuinely committed to tackling anti-Semitism’. source: https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/jailed-vote-rigger-e2-80-99s-role-in-labour-e2-80-99s-by-election-victory/ar-AACAY2U 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pegasus1992 Posted June 22, 2019 Watching the British politicians over the last 3 years, I would rather go to zoo and pick out animals at random to run a country, they'd do a better job If these are the ones they voted to lead their country, I do worry for them The "remainers" and "leavers" are absolutely hilarious....both ends of a spectrum and no compromise..well actually their was an easy way to solve this, but it was voted down I'm thankful everyday I don't live in England particularly, as that's where the biggest amount of polarization and nonsense seems to be coming from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48721211 and this is the man that they apparently want to elect as PM The circus continues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang Posted June 22, 2019 12 hours ago, pegasus1992 said: Watching the British politicians over the last 3 years, I would rather go to zoo and pick out animals at random to run a country, they'd do a better job If these are the ones they voted to lead their country, I do worry for them The "remainers" and "leavers" are absolutely hilarious....both ends of a spectrum and no compromise..well actually their was an easy way to solve this, but it was voted down I'm thankful everyday I don't live in England particularly, as that's where the biggest amount of polarization and nonsense seems to be coming from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48721211 and this is the man that they apparently want to elect as PM The circus continues Things are indeed dire but do not write us off yet. Our star shines brighter as the night darkens. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dynasty Posted June 22, 2019 15 hours ago, pegasus1992 said: If these are the ones they voted to lead their country, I do worry for them The "remainers" and "leavers" are absolutely hilarious....both ends of a spectrum and no compromise..well actually their was an easy way to solve this, but it was voted down You seem to be under the illusion that politicians on both sides are not owned by the same masters behind the scenes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted June 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Chang said: Things are indeed dire but do not write us off yet. Our star shines brighter as the night darkens. But is Boris really a star? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites