What is spirituality

[zerostao]

dear manitou, I am delighted that you watched, enjoyed, found value and wonder with the video/song.

[manitou]

On ‎12‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 3:51 PM, Everything said:

 And often people look at their reality and think that it is all there is, and so they give up on their wants and preferences, and so they never create the life they were eager to create here before they came into this physical environment. And unintentionally and unknowingly they hold on to the very thing they say they don't want. But this physical reality we perceive has been created from the past. So what you see here is actually not present tense reality. This is actually old reality, for the purpose of inspiring a greater desire than the one we previously had the capability of realising for ourselves. Often people have to die, before the dream can become a reality, and so every new reality only causes people to dream untill they die. However, if one just allows themselves to dream with more deliberate focus, then this power and momentum that comes with consistency accelerates the translation of the dreams into reality. Thus, one can have a dream in this reality and live it in the same reality aswell. And it is ALWAYS like that, eternally. The expansion never stops and the flow never ceases to flow. And if you move with it, unconditionally, you have an enjoyable experience and ride. And if you stop, thinking you are not worthy of the very thing you have realised yourself, you are blocking a current that stems from the Source of All Creation, that is infinite in nature and expansiveness.

 

Yes, this physical 'reality' we perceive has been created from the past.  And more than just our past, the pain body of our ancestors, as Eckhart Tolle would put it.  There is a little voice, either from my childhood or from ancestral past, that whispers to me "you are not worthy".  More specifically, it will say "Why should you have this good fortune?  Think of all the people in the world who are living with nothing".  It is a built-in hovering guilt of unknown etiology.  My reason will try to counteract it by saying something like 'in a previous existence, you too had nothing'.  But this little voice is deeply ingrained.

 

 

On ‎12‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 3:51 PM, Everything said:

 

 

So the current beats up on you, which in turn yields greater resistance and more pain and suffering. While if you let go with the flow, now all those old grudges dissapear and you lose everything, but you thereby gain everything. You lose what you thought you needed, but didn't need. You gain what you thought you didn't want, but you actually need in order to be happy and live a fulfilled and happy life, through which you have to ability to create your life, rather than regurgitate the life that is already here. In harmonic resonance with the natural current of well-being that is the stream of infinite and eternal existance whom eternity hinges upon your valuable expansion of desire realised after desire! There is nothing greater in value than the value of who you are. For without you, existance would not be complete! It would not be ALL that is! So you have no choice but to awaken fully the all of the desires that have been realised by you, when you die. But more and more, people are beginning to realise that they don't have to die in order to wake up to all that they have become. And that is why we are here, on this location of planet earth, where the party is at. This is currently the leading edge of creation. This is the big happening. Right here and now.

Most people think they are being left out of the party, but they are not. To give an analogy to what is actually happening is like this. They are at a party, a huge party. And their vision is completely veiled, and they are dazed. And they have a phone in their hands. And they look at their phone. And on the phone there is a message. The message is an invitation to the party.

They find it hard to believe that we're all infinitely and eternally worthy beings. As they look at their phone, their mind races through all of their life experiences that they've had, of which all of it has led to this moment. And they think or believe that they are stuck in the past, unable to allow themselves to move forward, with the deservingness that is already theirs. But in reality, they're not stuck. Infact, in reality, they are already at the party that they've been trying to reach their entire life. And this party is the joy that never ends and is eternal in nature. And unconditional in deservingness.

As you look at your physical reality, in its now current state, that is like looking at your phone and thinking about the past. This present physical reality has been created by those who came before, it has nothing to do with who you are and have allowed yourself to become and what you have come here for to create as an infinitely and eternally and unconditionally worthy being and creator of life experience after another. And the side effect are that physical manifestation will occur, yes. But those have never been the primary goal. The only goal that has ever been the goal is the joy of the endless and infinite and eternal and never ending and ever expanding journey that is existance coming to know itself in all the ways that it can in all of the freedom that it infinitely and eternally always has been, is and always will be.

You are so free, you can choose bondage. And if you realise you don't wanna do that, you just don't do that anymore. That's it. And then there's nothing left again, but the purity of the truth of the eternally worthy nature of your being. Nothing serious has ever been going on. There has never been a vulnerability of your eternal nature, never an idea that something can go wrong. Just the idea and knowingness that you can choose to experience AS IF something has gone wrong, but that never means something has actually gone wrong. For the well-being abounds eternally and infinitely, and thus immense powerful beings such as the physical humans of this planet have chosen this experience of limitation, as a challenge, for they knew that they could handle it and they knew, that as with their eternally worthy nature of their knowing, that absolutely nothing but good could thus come out of it. And then you have a completely new plateau of joys available to you the height of which has never been reached before, ever, in all of creation, even as all of creation looks on to you, in eager expectation, for their holding the knowingness that you have left behind FOR YOU eternally, so that you have a home to return to, after the long journey. And that home is already here and now, but it is subtle, and part of your greater consciousness, that you will allow to flow fully through you, either in this life, or after. And I fully believe that this life is fully capable of supporting your highest joy, in all the ways that it can. Without any falter. Because when you die, all times exist in the same 1 space. You don't have to die to already know that the future you seek, is already right here and now fully contained within the greater consciousness of all that you truely are, and that you have the full capability in this physical environment, that if you can conceive it in your mind, you can create it, without exception. You just have to understand that the creation is already done, by your greater being. And your task is only one and singular. To align your deliberate focus with that of your highest conceivable joy, by virtue of your heart's guidance system that helps you know wether you are focused in alignment or not with the knowing of your greater being that holds all of the greatness that you have realised for yourself in vibrational escrow, For you, eternally. And beams it out to you infinitely and eternally, always here and now, where all times and all places always exist. And you translate the vibrational alignment/misalignment between your physical body and your greater "soul" consciousness through your most sophisticated sense of emotions, which forever help you and guide you always without falter and in the most meaningful way that is possible for you.

The expansion is not in the structure of existance, but the expansion is of the consciousness which is the perspective that existance has of it self, that expands eternally and infinite into more and greater and better, eternally. For the freedom is boundless and the speed is infinite and thus, here you are, perceiving yourself in this unique way that you now perceive, and you do this so effortlessly, that you don't even know you're doing it. That's how powerful you are. So powerful, you can create the experience for yourself of being powerless. And there is nothing you need to do in order to regain your power. There is only everything that you need to stop do, in order to allow yourself to be who it is you already are as an eternally worthy and blessed being of infinite creation. There is great ease and love and appreciation and joy in allowing yourself to fully be who it is you truely already are.

 

 

I find so much truth in your words, Everything.  That was profound, brilliant, and written by one who truly knows the depth of their soul and understands the connectiveness and who and what we really are.  Thank you so much for taking the time to write this beautiful response.  

 

Love you 

[Jadespear]

...I think "spirituality" really means basically two things: 

1.  The search for truth

2.  How we explain existence and how we relate to it

 

...every "tradition" has something of either one or both of those subjects...

[mrpasserby]

In my experience: spirituality symbolizes the great work: where a self taught being manages to focus his life energies to self create/refine a more advanced/experienced version of his/her self within the next level of existence(caterpillar-butterfly)spirit-flesh-leveled up-huh👻👻

[manitou]

7 hours ago, mrpasserby said:

In my experience: spirituality symbolizes the great work: where a self taught being manages to focus his life energies to self create/refine a more advanced/experienced version of his/her self within the next level of existence(caterpillar-butterfly)spirit-flesh-leveled up-huh👻👻

 

 

Or, more simply, self realization?

[Everything]

On 8-12-2018 at 2:05 PM, manitou said:

 

 

On 13-12-2018 at 11:17 PM, Jadespear said:

...I think "spirituality" really means basically two things: 

1.  The search for truth

2.  How we explain existence and how we relate to it

 

...every "tradition" has something of either one or both of those subjects...

1.

The greatest truth is that all truths are true. 

The greatest question is "what truth do you want to be your truth, now that you know the greatest truth of all truths?" 

 

2.

Existance does not depend on your explaination. Your explaination depends on existance. 

Just like existance does not need time to be itself. Time needs existance to be itself. 

Existance is primary to all things. It is the highest truth.

Non-existance, by its very own definition, does not exist!

Edited December 15, 2018 by Everything

[manitou]

6 hours ago, Everything said:

 

 

Just like existance does not need time to be itself. Time needs existance to be itself. 

 

 

If the planets weren't rotating and giving us daylight and darkness, there wouldn't be any sense of time at all 

[ilumairen]

1 hour ago, manitou said:

 

If the planets weren't rotating and giving us daylight and darkness, there wouldn't be any sense of time at all 

 

There wouldn't be the standard measure of time we are accustomed to, and in this it certainly is an abstraction. 

[sustainablefarm86]

On 07/12/2018 at 4:21 PM, zerostao said:

dear manitou, I am delighted that you watched, enjoyed, found value and wonder with the video/song.

 

On the other side of the spectrum there's dumbass me who read the title, ok, escape velocity, cool I kind of get it? and then soon closed it because what the hell there are no lyrics, booooooo  

Edited December 15, 2018 by King Jade

[Everything]

10 hours ago, manitou said:

 

If the planets weren't rotating and giving us daylight and darkness, there wouldn't be any sense of time at all 

The perfect orbit of this planet around the sun. The stability of our human experience on this stable platform of variety. The freedom to choose from the variety. The ability to focus on the preferred state of being. The ability to sense and translate the vibrational state of being of the unmanifest, that manifests through our focus that sets the trajectory of our being into the physical experience of our preference. The freedom at the basis of this co-creative dance with our non-physical greater being. Our ability to translate the greater being of our nature from our physical point of view and individually specific personal human life experience. The stable evolution of the planet. The species, the improvement of every individual conscious experience and being. The ability to learn from unwanted experiences letting us know our preferred state of being with greater induced focus and clarity. The free movement towards the preferred state of being. The fine tuning of our focus to find balance with the ever expanding and improving general well-being of all human beings. And planetary variety of species and life forms. The sharing of the space with variety of life forms and consciousness, in harmony. Simple self being, and relatable freedom being of all individual conscious. The asking induced by the variety of the contrast, the reason for expansion. The unconditional answer of every realised and allowed preference. 

Today I am enjoying the warmth through the couragious facing of the cold. Inspiring the desire for warmth, and finding the fulfillment of the allowed desire. Through the path of least effort, of least resistance. The expansion into a new found appreciation of and relation with the cold or contrasting experience. To lead me into the new and improved version of my focus, choice, knowing, experience and perspective and point of view and relationship with the variety of contrast. The growth and learning through personal real valuable experiences. The ease of the knowing of the preference. The ease of the recognizing of the preference by virtue of feeling through the physical and non-physical senses. The ease of feeling and translating of the truth of what is preferred always in the current present specifically pointed now experience and focus and consciousness and awareness. The accuracy of the sensation and feeling of harmony, contentment, clarity, personal preference by virtue of our emotional sophisticated sense of ability of translating variety from contrast. The freedom to choose the preference and further fine tuning of the appreciation of the contrast and expansion into further clarity of personal value and knowing of purpose and joy of the personal life experience. The simplicity of the yield of recognition that stems from personal experience and focus induced naturally from the variety of contrasting experiences. And the freedom to choose and grow and again, choose and grow, and become and again, choose and grow and become and again and new and more and new and now and new. And now and new. Always in the ever freshening newer nower moment. The expansion of consciousness. That is easy and natural, and effortless and easy. And simple. And good. And the unconditional support of every experience, and choice. By the Source of All Creation. Yielding ever greater experiences of clarity and ease and well-being. 

Obvious and oblivious. Obvious and ability to know the good of it. And enjoying the good of it. And moving with that knowing into and through the ease of our ever blessed and worthy nature of being and existance, as who we are, as existance, forever, coming to kniw itself in all the different ways that it can possibly conceive for itself and can possibly even want to receive for itself the experience of the wanted and preferred experience and point of view of all the aspects we appreciate of our infinite being and nature. That is simple and easy. Effortless, and natural. And good. The resting in the wellness and the awakening into the receiving of the greater experience of wellness. Ever more in the naturally worthy experience of who we are that is simple and allowing of itself to be it's own preferred natural personal self. That is easy to be and do. And always works out well. Always succeeds in the way that is of best value to all of the self and all of the greater self. And more and new and again. For always and ever. To simply just be and flow naturally with the natural reality of who we are. Of our simple being and existance in and as the harmony of all the well-being that is the foundation if the ever expanding universe. That simple and easy and ripe for the plucking of the experience of it, ever more and always ever now. And here. Where all that we can possible desire always is. And all that we can possibly realise for ourself to want. And come to know as who we are from within and without. That is simple and easy and effortless. 

[manitou]

….you're channeling again, Everything   

Edited December 16, 2018 by manitou

[zerostao]

On 12/15/2018 at 11:12 AM, King Jade said:

 

On the other side of the spectrum there's dumbass me who read the title, ok, escape velocity, cool I kind of get it? and then soon closed it because what the hell there are no lyrics, booooooo  

expressing the ineffable sans lyrics everyone has to experience for themselves

you can try to put into words chunkity chunk clunkity clunk

[Kubba]

Spirituality, mostly discussed anywhere is just an entertainment, out of lack of true knowledge or out of agitation with New Age concepts. But there are real deals too who speak about the topic.

Spirituality is matters of spirit, spiritual evolution.

 

 

In the time of the Internet it is just not that easy to find a worthy knowledge. In the time when anyone claims to be a Teacher and tries to grab his part of attention. Ant don’t get me wrong, it is not what comes from those clips I’ve attached.

 

 

 

 

[freeform]

Spirituality as it is defined by people who have attained some spiritually evolved state tend to have very different definitions than ones who like to talk about spirituality or appear spiritual...

 

 

[mrpasserby]

@freeform,

'Spirituality as it is defined by people who have attained some spiritually evolved state tend to have very different definitions than ones who like to talk about spirituality or appear spiritual...'

It is good to hear your words. In my opinion/experience: There are DBs who are extremely spirit world functional. 

Edited December 19, 2018 by mrpasserby
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[mrpasserby]

@Kubba, 'But there are real deals too who speak about the topic.

Spirituality is matters of spirit, spiritual evolution.'

In my opinion/experience: most 'real deals' as you call them will speak indirectly.

I have been well cultivated while posting about with the DBs, I try to read between the lines, and channel the feelings connected to the words that are being expressed. Even negative comments if received in the correct light can be the seed that produces a epiphany. 

Edited December 19, 2018 by mrpasserby
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[Kubba]

13 hours ago, mrpasserby said:

@Kubba, 'But there are real deals too who speak about the topic.

Spirituality is matters of spirit, spiritual evolution.'

In my opinion/experience: most 'real deals' as you call them will speak indirectly.

I have been well cultivated while posting about with the DBs, I try to read between the lines, and channel the feelings connected to the words that are being expressed. Even negative comments if received in the correct light can be the seed that produces a epiphany ''

 

The speech can be direct or indirect as you have said. I suspect that it is related to the setting – what kind of students happened to be in the room. Some may not take the direct speech, and this needs to be respected, no? What would be use of delivering speech that does not contribute to wellbeing of the student, questioner?