Aetherous Posted December 13, 2018 This article is super interesting...https://www.academia.edu/10513801/Yangzhus_Guiji_Yangsheng_and_Its_Modern_Relevance I hadn't heard of Yangzhu prior to this. He was another thinker during the Warring States period. According to the article, he was an influence on Zhuangzi. His own writings don't exist, at least anymore, but he's quoted by a number of different sources from that time period. He disagreed with the self-destructive aspects of the Confucian and Mohist philosophies. He was kind of like Epicurus. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted December 16, 2018 For a free pdf see here:Â https://archive.org/details/2014203_20140623_0945/page/n23 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rideforever Posted December 16, 2018 Really like what I've read, something like : in daily life be competent, fix one's own roof first. Underneath the differing views of ideas like : selfless, thinking of others, self-love and so on .... seems to be a lack of understanding of the difference between false self that is lost in ancient habits normally forced upon a person in childhood - who "thinks" about others (actually worries fears and prides) .... and the true self who has separated from those old social habits to discover his real essence and who takes care of himself first, loves his own life first, and then expands to take care of others with his competence and natural connection to everything. This human journey seem to be not well understood.  Much of political discourse for instance is tension about how selfish / selfless one should be.  But what is not understood is the journey from the false to the real. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites