What happens . . . if Chi is directed into the 3rd eye (?)

[exorcist_1699]

Why people want to lead qi to their heads  ?   Do they think that by doing so, they can attain some  kind of 3rd  eye power ?  Or,   it is what they  think   how qi   be upgraded to the shen level  ?

 

Although you can lead qi to some part of your body to cure some disease, say ringworm or tumor , provided that  you do it properly ;  yet  you can't  do it the same way  to upgrade your energetic level , ie from qi to shen . No  matter it is  a place  right before your eyes/  inside your forehead / in your brain..etc .  Most people get it wrong because they apply their daily type of reasoning to the world  of   qi ,  thinking  that it works similarly,  which unfortunately  is not . 

 

Or, they are misled by those "brain  science ", and think  that some part of our brain in charge of some super-natural ability ?  In that case,   if they  force some qi to  that part , they  will get the 3rd-eye ability ?  All such kinds of thinking  is sadly  totally untrue ..

 

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by exorcist_1699

[rideforever]

Awakening is certainly not the result of directing chi somewhere.
After all who is the 3rd eye.

[Rara]

14 hours ago, exorcist_1699 said:

Why people want to lead qi to their heads  ?   Do they think that by doing so, they can attain some  kind of 3rd  eye power ? 

 

Yes, it's a new-age/egocentric thought. Not very Taoist.

[Nintendao]

The reflecting pool must be very calm and still in order to have a proper mirror surface for detecting subtlety. Deploying the will to stir it up only caused delusion.

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A cup full of turbid water before you, do you think you can use a spoon to churn up to make the water clear again? Everyone has the answer: keep the cup there for sometime without doing anything else. Then later the turbid naturally subsides down and the clearness presides over again. From this you can understand how to keep quiet and how to let the quietude preside over all to admit in changes charted by nature (only naturalness can do this work).

~Hu Xuezhi

 

Of course, splashing around in puddles is natural and fun way to learn, heheh. To make the moonlight dance by rippling the water is nice looking geometry, but to think the moon is really moved by that, well, noway jose.

Edited December 19, 2018 by Nintendao

[Wayfarer]

In Daoism it is called the celestial eye (could of course be how it was translated and not that at all) - directing energy there is part of the cycling of energy up the spine, through the head, down the nose and down the front of the body.  There's a ton of descriptive words for these areas such as the red chamber, mapgie bridge and so on.

 

The 3rd eye can vibrate very rapidly and in a very small area, then the trick is to draw that energy down the nose, the throat, the chest, the lower cauldron, and back up the spine.  It is meant to be part of the awakening process but I think it was used to a) help focus the mind away from thoughts and b ) warm up the meditator in winter.

[Rara]

2 hours ago, Wayfarer said:

In Daoism it is called the celestial eye (could of course be how it was translated and not that at all) - directing energy there is part of the cycling of energy up the spine, through the head, down the nose and down the front of the body.  There's a ton of descriptive words for these areas such as the red chamber, mapgie bridge and so on.

 

The 3rd eye can vibrate very rapidly and in a very small area, then the trick is to draw that energy down the nose, the throat, the chest, the lower cauldron, and back up the spine.  It is meant to be part of the awakening process but I think it was used to a) help focus the mind away from thoughts and b ) warm up the meditator in winter.

 

Aka "microcosmic orbit"

[Wayfarer]

yes, there's another name for it too, something to do with mountain ridges but I forget.

 

[Spotless]

The third eye is not opened by a “technique” - and the Third Eye can be viewed as much more than simply clairvoyance- (which is quite vast in and of itself).

 

It is also not like a widow that can be pried open.

 

It is already open in everyone - taking a magnifier and using it to concentrate the heat of light upon it “in order to feel something” is a bit like burning a million dollars to make it “do” something.

 

The greater awareness of your already very much Open Third Eye is all about neutrality / non- judgement and simply the practice of presence to the awareness you already possess.

 

The exercises one can do to advance the awareness are simple and require patience - forcing is entirely contrary to the practices and “ultra intensity” is irresponsible and counter productive.

 

The abilities in this siddhi are among the easiest to lose oneself and become a victim of its seduction.

 

if the idea is to use it to your advantage / you may “succeed” and in this you will be lost to it in the worst way. And you will become stunted by it though you will not suspect what you have lost in return.

 

If your idea is to open it for the benefit of others - spare others the conceit of your vanities - you are already seduced by your “virtues”.

Edited December 23, 2018 by Spotless

[Spotless]

Simple practice “focuses” life force upon all of the rgidized patterns that block ones Self Awareness - easing the constriction upon them.

 

Simple Practice focuses life force upon all natural essence patterns.

 

Simple practice naturally opens those abilities that most fit the intent of practice and the general cohesion

of karmic Light unfolding.

 

Practice seeing the light in everything and you are practicing

the greater opening of the third eye, the heart and connection in Presence to Divine Essence.

 

 

[Mudfoot]

What about being able to see a person cringe in all eight layers of the etheric field while being zapped by the power of the almighty LDT? 

 

Isn't that a worthy spiritual goal? 

[thelerner]

bump

 

[awaken]

I don't direct chi into the 3rd eye by mind.

The chi will open the 3rd eye by itself.

And it will show lights like auroras, stars, moon, sun and sky etc.

[RiverSnake]

Oh, to be young again......jumping on spiritual adventures, thinking nothing can hurt you.....sigh. Merry Christmas....don't fly off on Santa's sled. 

Edited December 25, 2020 by RiverSnake

[Desmonddf]

edit: I said something stupid, sorry.

Edited December 28, 2020 by Desmonddf

[exorcist_1699]

We originally get a  Mind having those  'supernatural ' abilities to grasp the world ,its phenomena and essence , not necessarily relies on our senses and reason . Such a power of going  beyond all physical bounds  loses  for two causes :

 

1) It  later splits and attaches to senses .

 

2) It attaches to the ego , a pseudo-self, which from our very  early ages up to our deathbeds, we stubbornly stick to  and believe its reality  . And ,  we use all our might to service it , thinking that it is  for our best interest to do so . 

 

it is by getting rid of these two causes or illusions  that we start to regain our supernatural abilities , not the other ways around . Making use of qi  is only  one of the ways that makes  it easier , compared to  other non-Taoist ways . 

 

Edited December 30, 2020 by exorcist_1699

[awaken]

把氣導引到下丹田，這是後天的做法，這種做法會干預氣的運行。

用後天意念去導引，不管是把氣導引到任何地方，不管是上丹田，中丹田，或者下丹田，都不是丹道。

這種導引法，稱為搬運法，也就是劉一明在西遊原旨當中所稱的『邪法』。

真正的第三眼開啟，是自然發生的，並非把氣導引到上丹田所致的。

第三眼的開啟，是基於真正的放鬆。

當心靈鬆到一個程度，第三眼就會自動開啟。

 

因此我要勸告那些把氣導引到下丹田的練習者，你這種練法，是沒辦法開啟第三眼的。

你也無法理解別人是如何自動開啟第三眼的。

 

Guiding qi to the lower dantian is an acquired practice, which will interfere with the operation of qi.

Using acquired thoughts to guide, whether it is to guide qi to any place, whether it is upper dantian, middle dantian, or lower dantian, it is not the way of alchemy.

This kind of guidance method is called the transfer method, which is what Liu Yiming called the "evil method" in the original purpose of Journey to the West.

The real opening of the third eye happens naturally, not by directing qi to the upper dantian.

The opening of the third eye is based on true relaxation.

When the mind relaxes to a certain extent, the third eye will automatically open.

Therefore, I would like to advise those practitioners who guide their qi to the lower dantian. You cannot open the third eye by practicing this method.

You also can't understand how someone else automatically opens their third eye.

 

當你學會不再用後天意念控制氣，當你學會如何放鬆讓氣自己去走，你才有可能開啟先天的可能。否則你將永遠困在後天的現象當中。

 

When you learn to stop using acquired thoughts to control your qi, and when you learn how to relax and let your qi go by yourself, then it is possible for you to unlock your innate possibilities. Otherwise you will be stuck forever in the phenomenon of after-sky.

 

translation difficulty：後天？after-sky?

 

只有當你第三眼開啟，你才有可能看見烏肝的光。

所以請不要再用意念把氣往下丹田導引，這絕對是錯誤的練法。

你需要的是：鬆。

 

Only when your third eye is opened can you possibly see the light of black liver.

So please don't use your mind to guide your qi down the dantian, this is definitely the wrong way to practice.

What you need: Relax.

Edited March 18, 2022 by awaken