chunkstyle Posted January 2, 2019 Hello, I’d like to introduce myself as a newcomer to the Dao Bums. I’ve read many threads on and off over the years, and they always seem to be insightful. My background is in Traditional Chinese Medicine. I’ve been practicing TCM for about 20 years and studied a few different forms of Qi Gong. The Tao Te Ching and Chuang Tzu have been instrumental to my outlook on life. Here’s where I could use some help. In my style of acupuncture, I palpate the points on patients before placing a needle. Occasionally, I can tell immediately if a point will be helpful because I feel instantly nauseated and need to vomit when I touch a point on their body. When I feel sick from this, 9 out of 10 times the patient will immediately say “Wow, my (back, neck, stomach, etc.) feels instantly better!”. They feel better and I have to go puke outside. In my first years of practice I didn’t put it together, but later a fellow practitioner told me to go touch a tree, plant, or grass when this feeling comes. That has helped significantly and now it can be reduced by 70-80%. There’s obviously a connection to nature. Everybody thinks I’m crazy when I tell them, so I just keep it to myself. First off, has anyone ever experienced this? Does anyone know resources or specific techniques that can help strengthen my defensive energy? And instead of only taking on other people’s garbage during acupuncture treatments, are there techniques that can teach me to put good/healing energy into my patients? Obviously there are no quick fixes as these are life-long studies and commitments, but I’m in this for the long haul. Thank you! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fa Xin Posted January 2, 2019 Hello, chunkstyle, and welcome. Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go. Please take the time to read the post pinned at the top of this Welcome page and take a look at the forum Terms and Rules. This covers all you need to know when getting started. For the first week you will be restricted to ten posts per day but after that you can post as much as you like. Also, until you’ve posted fifteen times in the forums, you’ll be a “Junior Bum” with somewhat restricted access and will be allowed only two private messages per day. Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you, Fa Xin and the TDB team Hi chunkstyle, Wow! Cool stuff. Sounds like your advancing in your practice. I don't know the answer to your question, but someone should chime in soon. Welcome, and enjoy. You are welcome to jump right in to the ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forum to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started. May you enjoy your time here. Fa Xin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheya Posted January 3, 2019 Welcome, chunkstyle! Hopefully someone here can step in and offer advice on this for you. Michael Lomax, aka Yamu, is a member here, and talks about this. You can probably also find advice on this on the Facebook group "Clinical Medical Qigong"... a great bunch of practitioners, and very generous with their experience and advice. Glad you decided to join us Bums! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunkstyle Posted January 3, 2019 Thanks for your responses. Looking forward to the rest of the journey! I'm going to to order the Gift of the Tao from Michael Lomax as a start and get crackin'! I will continue searching the forums as I'm sure other individuals have had problems absorbing unwanted energies from patients as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rideforever Posted January 3, 2019 If you take on the negative energy of patients long-term it's going to be bad for you. Zhan Zhuang can make your internal energies strong. Pranic Healing they put positive energy back into the patients, it's quite easy you can get a book on it.. Also you can send a prayer into the acupuncture point silently. It is good to have a protocol for yourself to clear any negative energy. I know a pranic healer who plays a recording of his teacher saying "Om" mantra 24 hrs a day in the room he uses for healing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zen Pig Posted January 3, 2019 On 1/1/2019 at 11:42 PM, chunkstyle said: a fellow practitioner told me to go touch a tree, plant, or grass when this feeling comes. That has helped significantly and now it can be reduced by 70-80%. Good to have you and your experiences. welcome. I am not an Acupuncturist, but have been doing sitting meditation for many years. starting out in Soto Zen tradition. I have had what they call in Zen, "meditation sickness" about three times during this time, and it is very unpleasantness. everything from ringing ears, to electric like saps in the body, which I found out later were acupuncture points, and also a 'roid rage kind of feeling where I was not angry, but very agitated. For me it comes from trying to hard or taking meditation to serious. I had forgotten to play with sitting. My cure, is to sit on the ground, or stand bare footed on the earth, and touching trees is also very powerful for this. I suppose it could be some kind of energy blockage due to mind disturbance, but that is just a guess. Very interesting topic, hope you find the support/help with this. good luck 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
