Living in perpetual hell due premature awakening

[2ndchance]

Try to sing some Hillsong Worship Songs or K-Pop Ballads with all manner of positive loving emotions of joy, happiness, humility, love, forgiveness in your heart, mind, soul every second.

 

As you sing the songs of love, chant any words of mantra along with the songs of love.

 

I sang the mantra "Om Mani Padme Hum" yesterday along to some Hillsong Worship Songs like "Let there be Light" and some energy blockages dissolve into love energies.

 

Try it and see how it works

[kondensation]

Hello friend, I too had that kind of experience many years ago when I learned some technique from a book. For me it stopped after eating lots of fatty foods and copious amounts of weight lifting. I spent all the energy and lost most of my sensitivity in the body that way! Soon I was no longer able to feel any energy at all and I slept like a log. After that you just let your body fix itself naturally and return to a normal rhythm. If you start practicing again, try starting with zhan zhuang or balance the soft training with hard.

[redcairo]

On 1/6/2019 at 6:49 AM, Zen Pig said:

This is a good point.  don't know how well water fasting opens up chi channels because i have not looked into this, but I just got off a 3-1/2  day (84 hour)- water only fast, which I do about 5 to 6 times a year. and IMO the benefits for the body are amazing. Lots of research out there that shows that about three days is the best length to go without food, and get rid of all the toxins, including damaged cells that cause inflammation, damaged white blood cells and replace them with new ones, (In some research up to 30 percent of white blood cells replaced, improving immunity. and lastly the brain is detoxified from the same process called autophagy, which means "self eating" where the body eats the damaged cells and plaque that cause everything from cancer to Alzheimer's, and then the stem cells are turned on to make new cells in everything from the gut lining, to the myelin in the brains nerve cells which is great.  highly recommend it, but as i have said in other post  don't just look at youtube videos for information on this, as the great majority of these videos are shit, and make it way to complicated in order to either sell your something, join something, or just being crazy humans.  go to the peer reviewed research papers.  

 

Dr. Jason Fung has a book out now called 'The Obesity Code' which is hugely geared to both intermittant and longer-term fasting, its research and application. He's a diabetes nephrologist (kidney specialist) by trade. He addresses precisely this stuff. I only just ordered it but friends say it's a very good book, logical and laid out well so it all wraps together.

 

One of the core things on this though, that is different than what we knew 5 years ago let alone 50, is that the body treats "under-nourishment" dramatically differently than it treats "no food at all." The former it makes you hungrier and it reduces your metabolic rate, as if it is making you a competitive eater (compared to the equally hungry people around you) and a competitive wait-er (through the winter or whatever). But the latter, it actually drops your hunger entirely within 2-3 days, clears your mind, clears out the body in half a dozen ways, and increases your competitiveness for hunting and high level competition (physical and mental), while -- and this is the big deal -- not reducing your BMR, and protecting your lean body mass.

 

Other interesting stuff I saw while browsing on the topic, so the book is probably worth reading... I was real into about 7 years ago, when it was considered a bodybuilder niche topic at LeanGains, now there's research we didn't have then plus some from the past that was kind of lurking unnoticed that finally got pulled into the larger picture. Some pro sports coaches are now publicly putting the fasting approaches in play so it's getting more attention than it used to. I had a (birth-defect-related) heart issue crop up then and had to drop weight lifting (and eventually was bedridden) and so I haven't even looked at the topic since then, but now I'm enthusiastic again. I used to fast a lot when I was pretty young, more for spiritual reasons -- felt like it really "re-set" me.

 

Trivia: current record holder is the very fat guy who fasted (under medical sup of course) for 382 days.

 

Suggestions along with it are mineral supplements and water; and sometimes stool softeners. Also if someone hasn't eaten all that well and is not lowcarb before they begin, their shift into keto is likely to kick their ass with the 'induction flu' when the first most-toxic fat cells dump into the bloodstream. So a month or so of lowcarb, with a few days of high-nutrient and supplements, before dropping into a long fast might be good planning.

 

RC

 

 

[moment]

On 1/5/2019 at 4:49 AM, uselis said:

Hello folks,

 

I have 0 hope but deep down I want escape this for my mother. She suffers so much due to my spiritual quest failure with her own health taking hit and tears taking over. Pethaps somebody will notice this and offer some hope - direction.

 

30 years male living in the middle of nowhere (Lithuania, Eastern Europe). For three years kept celibacy and meditated daily for several hours with premature intention to have Kundalini. Thought it's going to make me better person and those around me. No drugs been involved nor manipulative intentions to use energy for evil purposes. 

 

Did mostly Vippasana and concentration practices.

 

One month ago I had erection and massive amount of energy flooded to my head. Since then every day became proggresively worse to the point that currently:

 

Living in perpetual state that is mix of fear, anxiety, terror, suicidal deppresion. I call it agony which at times so intense. No positive feelings, no pleasure from anything. Can't do much physical activity yet staying stationary so unbearable as I feel energy is ripping me apart. 

 

Cognitive abilities going down each day. I can't read, watch or even have conversation for long time. No concentration nor ability to understand. 

 

I am becoming monster. By that I mean that it feels like only body left which concerned about food only and survival in general. No person inside left. Anytime I can cry (which is rare) I welcome it. It makes me feel like human again. I hug my mom yet I feel nothing.

 

Can't sleep without strong pills and even with those it's 5h.

 

My nervous system can't handle anything.

 

Mostly I feel energy as a hot discomfort in my head yet I can't bring it down.

 

Visited psychiatric which suspect psychosis yet I don't see anything or hear voices. I don't behave irrationally but I can't function being gripped by this energy. Other psychiatric diagnosed me depressed and gave SSRI's and anti anxiety pills.

 

Worst part my family don't believe in Kundalini or whatever I have here.

 

Guys, I am so desperate and I keep thinking that there is only way out. I don't want to expierence this walking dead life. I told my thoughts to psychiatrist and my family. I don't hide anything cause I am desperate for help yet any meds I've been given makes me suffer more.

 

Did I put myself in permanent hell state and nothing will help now? 

 

 

 

I largely agree with Zen Pig, Apech and Wu Ming Jen.  I had a massive Kundalini experience by doing a lot of Kriya Yoga meditations with out enough foundation.  Again, as said above, nature and physical exertion was very helpful.  Sometimes though, when the following depressions became too overwhelming to do any activities, I found that guided meditations on the Root Chakra (youtube) was extremely helpful. A caveat though from personal experience, absolutely DO NOT go above that chakra until you feel grounded, secure, safe. (It seems to me that the massive energy through the head had to be reeled back and properly anchored through the root before going back up again.)  My heart is with you.

Edited March 17, 2019 by moment

[thelerner]

On 2/5/2019 at 2:47 PM, 2ndchance said:

Try to sing some Hillsong Worship Songs or K-Pop Ballads with all manner of positive loving emotions of joy, happiness, humility, love, forgiveness in your heart, mind, soul every second.

 

Yeah, singing can be uniquely uplifting.  When I'm blue, I'll sing tunes from Godspell; Day by Day, Light of the World, Bless the Lord.  Or  from Rocky Horror Picture Show. 

 

We all have to find our own songs.  Hopefully like a guitar or any instrument, you listen, you sing, you get back in tune.

[3bob]

I see this thread went quiet awhile back...anyway I don't think anyone mentioned Gopi Krisha's books/experiences with Kundalini and how he also suffered along these lines; a major cause being when balance is way off or not prepared resulting with kundalini traveling up the pingala instead of the sushumna!!  Lets face it there are only a tiny handful of true Kundalini masters in the whole world that can intercept and direct her properly in their students...thus buyer beware of all the books and gurus on every street corner in California and elsewhere that are playing with fire! 

[Pyramidalcow]

On 1/5/2019 at 4:49 AM, uselis said:

Hello folks,

 

I have 0 hope but deep down I want escape this for my mother. She suffers so much due to my spiritual quest failure with her own health taking hit and tears taking over. Pethaps somebody will notice this and offer some hope - direction.

 

30 years male living in the middle of nowhere (Lithuania, Eastern Europe). For three years kept celibacy and meditated daily for several hours with premature intention to have Kundalini. Thought it's going to make me better person and those around me. No drugs been involved nor manipulative intentions to use energy for evil purposes. 

 

Did mostly Vippasana and concentration practices.

 

One month ago I had erection and massive amount of energy flooded to my head. Since then every day became proggresively worse to the point that currently:

 

Living in perpetual state that is mix of fear, anxiety, terror, suicidal deppresion. I call it agony which at times so intense. No positive feelings, no pleasure from anything. Can't do much physical activity yet staying stationary so unbearable as I feel energy is ripping me apart. 

 

Cognitive abilities going down each day. I can't read, watch or even have conversation for long time. No concentration nor ability to understand. 

 

I am becoming monster. By that I mean that it feels like only body left which concerned about food only and survival in general. No person inside left. Anytime I can cry (which is rare) I welcome it. It makes me feel like human again. I hug my mom yet I feel nothing.

 

Can't sleep without strong pills and even with those it's 5h.

 

My nervous system can't handle anything.

 

Mostly I feel energy as a hot discomfort in my head yet I can't bring it down.

 

Visited psychiatric which suspect psychosis yet I don't see anything or hear voices. I don't behave irrationally but I can't function being gripped by this energy. Other psychiatric diagnosed me depressed and gave SSRI's and anti anxiety pills.

 

Worst part my family don't believe in Kundalini or whatever I have here.

 

Guys, I am so desperate and I keep thinking that there is only way out. I don't want to expierence this walking dead life. I told my thoughts to psychiatrist and my family. I don't hide anything cause I am desperate for help yet any meds I've been given makes me suffer more.

 

Did I put myself in permanent hell state and nothing will help now? 

 

 

see a psychiatrist

 

Edited September 2, 2020 by Pyramidalcow
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[freeform]

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[idiot_stimpy]

43 minutes ago, freeform said:

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