Non-dual awareness is without attributes. But what about Love?

[Apech]

I think the sign that non-dual awareness emanates love and indeed wisdom is that it is a measure of truly awakened people that they demonstrate both love and wisdom as a natural effect of their enlightenment.  OK it is possible that some realised beings simply abstract themselves out of existence, don't interact with others or say anything.  But if realised beings they do interact with others then they demonstrate love and wisdom which comes directly from their non-dual awareness.

 

 

[Everything]

Many people, when they suffer trauma, enjoy emptiness. It is a restful notion, of lying down and resting, sleeping and becoming more non-physical in thy sleeping and slumbering, and the soothing nature of emptiness, and silence and calmness, serenity, it is a very rejuvinated state of being, where nothing is, nothing is bothered, there is tremendous rest and letting go and easing into the rest in that way.

[manitou]

3 minutes ago, Wuschel said:

Enlightening experiences or nondual realization don't make enlightened or realized.

There might be some degree of understanding while being there but as soon as squeezing it into concepts or identifying as 'nondual master' its just feeding ego and delusion. 

Those vehement reactions may be due to the accompanied vanity clothed in mastery rather than the ideas itself, at least in my case this impression is what causes negative reactions. 

 

 

 

This is why I love the metaphysics of the commonality of all vehicles for enlightenment.  When you say 'Enlightening experiences or nondual realization don't make enlightened or realized' - I couldn't agree with you more.  An enlightening experience may be wonderful, but if it isn't accompanied by inner dissolution of the shadows within (prior conditioning, etc), it will only remain an enlightening experience.  And I too understand that there is a responsibility that comes naturally with becoming realized.  Actions must be tempered, buttons that others can push must be removed.  I think this process continues either pre or post-realized - an eternal path where we become kinder, more loving, capable of deciding our own thoughts, realizing that our thinking controls our external life.  And most importantly, realizing that if you had the same conditioning, same memories, and same level of awareness, you too would be doing or saying exactly as the other person is.  Because you ARE the other person.

[Spotless]

Non-dual Awareness is without attributes?

 

Is this an assumption?

 

Is not Awareness an attribute?

 

The Void is not void

 

Stillness is not dead

 

Cogito - Sum

 

Love is unfettered un-positioned

un-polarized emotion - higher emotion - higher Self. It is both Love and Compassion - not generated by Enlightenment but unfettered In Enlightenment - simply raw essence.

 

This is fine pulling of hair 😎

 

So many words and concepts that when experienced seem a thousand miles off - unrecognizable in the experience.

 

it is only after Awakening and into Enlightenment that the words can be seen to point correctly and at the same time how easily they were completely misunderstood.

 

Upon Awakening it is possible to not understand what has happened immediately - so far from the words is the reality - a thousand scriptures can even make it tougher to see.

 

Stillness does not mean dead - it is hyper Aliveness - in no inertia. But when we hear the word stillness from an unawakened state of trance the head thinks Zero, the heart feels peace, the gut experiences no needs.

 

From Self - Stillness is hyper Awareness in no effort - no held tension - the head is in no-sidedness and blossoms and radiates, the heart is in Love and Never-Ending Patience,

the Gut experiences fullness in nothingness - deep roots in Unity and compassion.

 

Edited January 10, 2019 by Spotless

[Everything]

8 hours ago, voidisyinyang said:

So this loving light, as the substance of our consciousness, of who we are. Can be sun light aswell as candle light right? Or starlight. Or moonlight. But what about light from screens andmonitor displays and tv's? I think those are not real light. Dont know why. It doesn feel as real. Dont feel natural and loving to me. Not as loving as the light from a candle flame or the light from the sun even as the sky reflecting the purity of it. But when I look at a lamp, it feels very dense low frequency. Very filtered, very fake. Not real. Like people complain about chemtrails blocking sun light, even tho sky is still appearingly clear. So the monitors or lamps seem Very dark and fake. However, maybe there are forms of electrical light that are very high fast and pure, maybe flashlights? Meh. I mean big fcking military grade pure intense overwhelming white eye blinding flashlights. Nah still not good. Maybe it is about the frequency? Dunno. Maybe green, red or blue laserlight. Or three of those lasers combined and reflected of alluminum? There is something about sunlight that is unmistakingly unreplacable and fire or flame or candle or bonfire light aswell, especially candle as it is stable and has that nice purity to it. Maybe oil lamp too.  Maybe a firefly, nah... Ok flame it is. Sun and flame and stars candles. Right? 

 

OK you ask a good question. For example I am growing table top mushrooms - a table top farm kit. The instructions say it needs medium sunlight but also incandescent light can be used - not the new led lights. Why? Because LED light is based on a resonant frequency - like a laser - whereas sunlight is a broad spectrum light.

 

So then animals are like plants. To understand the light as spirit we need to understand the new foundation of science which is quantum physics. Light from computer screens - if they are new monitors like a cell phone - this is LED laser light and so it has too much intensity since quantum intensity is from frequency. So staring at an LED light will cause eye cancer and then electromagnetic radiation based on Western technology is also electromagnetic pollution. Why? Because ecology is based on quantum entanglement which is also the Yuan Qi as noncommutative phase. For example it's proven that birds when migrating, the birds are very sensitive to electromagnetic pollution - in a city - compared to the countryside.

 

So we as animals we rely on the Earth's Schumann resonance which is a very subtle magnetic field but it does not have to be strong since it is synchronized with our free radicals of electron-photon reactions due to pigments in the eyes activating the quantum coherence of the microtubules.

 

So electromagnetic radiation as light as used in electronics or electromotive power - this is based on symmetric Western logic going back to Vedic and Zoroastrian logic. So this creates pollution and since World War II our electromagnetic pollution is by now probably 100 times greater. It was 40 times great about 20 years ago but now with all the cell phones and wifi networks it must be much worse.

 

So the key to understand about the Yuan Shen as the "light of no light" - is that light is actually quantum as a photon, something Einstein discovered with the photoelectric effect, giving him the Nobel prize. So the intensity of light is based on frequency but the origin of the charge of light is from relativistic mass or the ether spacetime of light - it's also called the hidden momentum of light or the super momentum - it is superluminal phase as spacetime that creates the charge. I have corresponded with Nobel physicist Brian Josephson about this - he practices qigong with his colleague at Cambridge. Nobel physicist Josephson invented the Josephson Junction which enables MRI machines and when NIST tests the value of 1 volt, this charge value is measured by a series of quantum Josephson Junctions. Also when virtual photons are now "captured" in the lab - this too is done using the Josephson Junction.

 

So when we "turn the light around" as the Yuan Shen or Shen of No Shen - the "light of no light" - this refers to the source of light in the Ether. Ramana Maharshi stated that he had to "admit" for the "sake of argument" that he is dependent on using the Mind to kill the mind or merge the mind back into Formless Awareness. So he has to use the mind as the Sattva Guna to merge back into the "3 in 1 unity" or the "three gunas of No guna." So this is a logical paradox that the Westernized version of nondualism does not understand - instead just fixating on "enlightenment" and "spirit." etc.

 

So we are talking about the 5th dimension that is accessed at the speed of light but in fact the 5th dimension is the future and past combined together and is in eternal motion. The spiritual ego merges back into the 5th dimension as logical inference. So we can never SEE the formless awareness but we can logical infer it and also we can LISTEN to the 5th dimension. So this 5th dimension is called "time-like" or a phase that is no phase - as it is eternal synchronization as a primordial time. This is not some "woo woo" New Age nonsense but rather the highest level of science. For example Fields Medal math professor Alain Connes has a lecture on the 5th dimension, as explained by noncommutative nonwestern music theory. So the "three gunas of no guna" is actually from music theory as is the Taiji of Daoism - the yin-yang-Emptiness is also from music theory.

 

So since we left the forest where LISTENING is our primary perception, then on the savannah and plains - our bias slowly switched to a visual focus and around 10,000 years ago when the earth cooled during the Younger Dryas, then we developed farming worldwide. This caused a slow switch from our Lunar Mind of the Pineal Gland third eye psychic prana or qi - into a Solar calendar focus. The solar calendar focus is actually left brain and right hand dominance - so we make plans and scheme with our left brain. This is the Yang Shen as we delusionally then think that 3D spacetime as the Yang Shen is the final reality - but in fact it is controlled by the yin qi of the liver - the Hun Soul is still a Yin Shen. So then the Yuan Shen has to rely on the Yang Qi of the po soul - our deep subconscious. This can only be activated by CLOSING the eyes in meditation - through alchemy as a logic of paradoxical complementary opposites or non-local non-dual, non-western, non-commutative, meditation.

 

So just as in deep dreamless sleep our mind returns to the formless awareness - but only in IGNORANCE - so too in deep meditation does our mind return to the formless awareness but now with the spiritual ego MERGING back into the formless awareness VIA the spirit light or sattva guna, the Yang qi as the Yuan shen.

 

So it is a subtle difference and yet profound. When the yang qi is deep enough into the Yuan Shen, the light of no light, then the Yin qi blockages of the Yang Shen are cleared out - and this Yang Shen is able to leave our physical body more easily. The final stage then is the literal vaporization of our old physical body - and then a new golden immortal yang shen body is created. But this process ONLY works through the Yuan Shen or light of no light then going deeper in to the Yuan Qi and it is the Yuan Qi that is the "pilot wave" or spacetime Emptiness that guides the process of the Yuan Shen transformations.

 

So this OP was about LOVE. In fact it is true that "unconditional love" is actually NOT the emotional love as joy but Unconditional Love is actually the Yuan Qi itself as the truth of reality that is this synchronous primordial deep time as the 5th dimension, what the ancient Greeks called Harmonia or the Egyptians called Apopis (Neith or Nut) - origin of our term "Nothing" or Nut-case.

 

So the origin of the Yuan Qi is on the right side of the heart - beyond death - and so Ramana Maharshi has to meditate nonstop for 9 years to achieve eternal liberation by the cutting of the Knot - the permanent cutting of his spiritual ego on the left side of his heart from his Yuan Qi on the right side of the heart. So the Yuan Qi is activated by the kundalini which is the right side vagus nerve connecting the reproductive organs to the right side of the heart. Then as the Yuan Qi is built up in the body this requires the reproductive organ to return back to an infantile state - like a baby - called like a Horse - that hides inside - and in its final stage - it is completely used up.

 

Then the body Yuan Qi has to "envelop" the Yuan Shen - as the Emptiness is able to create more Yuan Shen spirits that heal other people as well. So this is a type of immortal healing that is like creating multiple Yang Shens. So the Yuan Qi is embodied by the qigong master.

 

As Chunyi Lin says Taichi is very good for developing the qi of the mind and body but for the really deep intelligence - the Yuan Qi - then you want the full lotus meditation of qigong. As Wang Liping states, only in full lotus in deep meditation does then the lower body nerve channels fully open up. So this is why the cave meditation is considered the highest level of meditation - a 49 day no sleep, no food meditation in darkness. Of course for this to be possible then the Yuan Shen light actually fills the cave so that the cave walls also emit light and the person's spirit goes into heaven. But as Ramana Maharshi points out - even all these astral realms and spirit travels are just manifestations of the spiritual ego. Only the Formless AWareness or Yuan Qi - the Emptiness is the eternal reality. As the main student of Ramana Maharshi stated, with the title of his memoir: Nothing Ever Happens.

 

 

So then, I suggest, bare foot on sand in beach water. Can't imagine a more electromagnetic neutral zone to reset the electro magnetic of the body. Also see how people who grow old, always extremely healthy, when they often make barefoot walks on the edge of the water at the beach.

[manitou]

Just now, Spotless said:

 

Upon Awakening it is possible to not understand what has happened immediately - so far from the words is the reality - a thousand scriptures can even make it tougher to see.

 

 

 

 

Isn't that the truth?

[Everything]

7 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

The video of the yinyangtorus type thing ... this isn't true energetic connection of the world, it is energy imagined by the mind.
True energy-being is subtle and described more by ChangTsu Laozi words, very different.
Likewise your sentence here seems to be a mental comprehension of things, and because of that it does not catch the reality and importance of things, it is excited about things but it does not actually feel their reality, neither energetically nor conceptually, this is because the mind is virtualising things .... true connection comes from a different awakened part of the being.

What better connection than the always fully awakened connection of the true center of your being. Your heart. That also gives you the ability to feel and gage in every given moment in time the degree of your more allowance of that connection or not.

[Everything]

5 hours ago, dawei said:

 

Your just using dualistic constructed words. You can call it whatever you want.  Tomorrow maybe we'll call it something else too.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You don't need to wait till tomorrow to call it contrast. Because it is just variety. And always will be.

The idea to understand, is that you cannot know yourself, unless you know who you are not. So both self and "other" are necessary for the evolution of consciousness. So being and becoming are the same thing. They can work hand in hand together, if that is allowed by the individual to be realised that it is already so, for the beneficial reason of ever expansion, always has been and always will be. And no words are necessary to already allow it as it is. And realise you are part of that greatness of the ever becoming. That is who it is and what it is you truely already are and always will be.

[Spotless]

1 minute ago, Everything said:

What better connection than the always fully awakened connection of the true center of your being. Your heart. That also gives you the ability to feel and gage in every given moment in time the degree of your more allowance of that connection or not.

The true center is not a localization.

It is not the centered heart nor the area to the right or left - this is often lost in quotes and discourse.

 

Heart Centeredness is Essence Centeredness - and may be seen physically only as the subtle bodies become one.

[Everything]

2 hours ago, Spotless said:

The true center is not a localization.

It is not the centered heart nor the area to the right or left - this is often lost in quotes and discourse.

 

Heart Centeredness is Essence Centeredness - and may be seen physically only as the subtle bodies become one.

And thus you allow the full realisation of your centeredness, through your own heart and your ability to feel this energy-motional, emotional, alignment between you (physical) and YOU (non-physical), that is the true and only "relativity" that ever matters and will ever mean anything in your life. It is the Source of All your Value in life and the everlasting path of allowing your ever greater purpose in life to be realised by you and fulfilled evermore in your ever greater allowance of its ever expanding fuller more clearminded and poyniont, more focused and allowed and realised clarity of being in tune in harmony and in full flowing and allowed connection of your physical and non-physical in ever so more fuller allowed and felt and thus realised AGREEMENT that resonates always through you and throughout all of your life, propelled by the minds ability to distinguish and focus in the midst of contrast and variety, led by the hearts guidance of feeling, that always begins with the state of being in love or joy or freedom or knowing, or empowerment, as all the good feelings that don't need words to be allowed to be realised by any given individual ever more so, that will always be there for the full allowing realisation of it, because it is who you already truely are as a non-physical greater consciousness, and can never be disconnected from. Even our most despairing moments is evidence of our everlasting connection, and even further so, implies and points at very importance of your everlasting connection with who and what it is that you truely already are, always have been and always will be, and how much we truely want to allow that connection and how painful and unnatural it is to disallow it. And how wasteful. And self-harming. For if you truely did not feel the pain, that would mean, there is no value there for your allowing of it. And thus if you always practice the art of allowing your connection with your greater non-physical consciousness, all joy to you. For there is no other purpose in existance and as existance. From this state of being, all of your answers that you seek are always fully and readily available to you, for your allowing of it all, and evermore.

Edited January 10, 2019 by Everything

[Everything]

47 minutes ago, Wuschel said:

Enlightening experiences or nondual realization don't make enlightened or realized.

There might be some degree of understanding while being there but as soon as squeezing it into concepts or identifying as 'nondual master' its just feeding ego and delusion. 

Those vehement reactions may be due to the accompanied vanity clothed in mastery rather than the ideas itself, at least in my case this impression is what causes negative reactions. 

 

 

That is simply so because non-dual awareness might be an unconscious state of being in the first place, unless you are talking about the relativity between your physical you and your non-physical greater You, that can only ever be realised through oneself, and is indicated by the emotion that you feel in any given moment that indicates the harmonizing union of that relativity or not or less, that no one can feel for you but you and only you ever, because that is also only ever about your own relativity between you and You, which is also the only thing that matters. As to the contrast that gives us the ability to focus and navigate through that which is variety, is a necessary aspect of that awareness, so non-contrast is non-awareness which simply implies and points at ALL THAT EXIST which has nothing outside of itself to even be capable of comparing itself to anything, thus has absolute no awareness of itself, whatsoever.

Edited January 10, 2019 by Everything

[Everything]

6 hours ago, manitou said:

Love means so many different things in different circumstances.  Love might be stopping, getting out of the car, and giving a homeless person a few bucks.  Or it may be picking up a piece of trash in an otherwise beautiful park.  I still have remnants of Carlos Castaneda in me, wherein his nagual Don Juan Mateus was forever reminding him to be "impeccable" in his life.  This is to be in the here and now, to take responsibility for our words and actions, to be a blessing when needed.  Or love may be the power of attraction that is the glue that holds the universe together.  It is to know that we are One with the earth and all other things/animals/minerals/worms/etc. and to act accordingly.  Love's demands change continually and eternally.  Sometimes it's just listening to another person, without opinion getting in the way.

 

I love OldDog's previous comment about not being really here, but loving to argue with other people on the internet who aren't really here either.  As I see it, the construction of an atom is approximately 99.99% space.  Which to me means that the only thing that makes anything appear real is the fact that the other components of the atom, the electrons, neutrons, quarks, etc - are circulating at such a fast rate that they appear solid.  I don't know, are the components rotating at 186,000 MPS?  Maybe the whole concept of mutual attraction (love?) is the cohesion for everything in the galaxy or beyond, as everything is rotating with everything else.  It also occurs to me that without rotation we would have no concept of Time, as there would be no days and nights.

And that is why feeling love is so important and so enjoyable, as it indicates your allowed alignment with your greater non-physical part of all that you truely are and will be the ever becoming of, evermore.

[Spotless]

1 hour ago, Everything said:

And thus you allow the full realisation of your centeredness, through your own heart and your ability to feel this energy-motional, emotional, alignment between you (physical) and YOU (non-physical), that is the true and only "relativity" that ever matters and will ever mean anything in your life. It is the Source of All your Value in life and the everlasting path of allowing your ever greater purpose in life to be realised by you and fulfilled evermore in your ever greater allowance of its ever expanding fuller more clearminded and poyniont, more focused and allowed and realised clarity of being in tune in harmony and in full flowing and allowed connection of your physical and non-physical in ever so more fuller allowed and felt and thus realised AGREEMENT that resonates always through you and throughout all of your life, propelled by the minds ability to distinguish and focus in the midst of contrast and variety, led by the hearts guidance of feeling, that always begins with the state of being in love or joy or freedom or knowing, or empowerment, as all the good feelings that don't need words to be allowed to be realised by any given individual ever more so, that will always be there for the full allowing realisation of it, because it is who you already truely are as a non-physical greater consciousness, and can never be disconnected from. Even our most despairing moments is evidence of our everlasting connection, and even further so, implies and points at very importance of your everlasting connection with who and what it is that you truely already are, always have been and always will be.

This is a high relative viewpoint - a sort of classic psychic conceptual understanding.

[dawei]

3 hours ago, Apech said:

I think the sign that non-dual awareness emanates love and indeed wisdom is that it is a measure of truly awakened people that they demonstrate both love and wisdom as a natural effect of their enlightenment.  OK it is possible that some realised beings simply abstract themselves out of existence, don't interact with others or say anything.  But if realised beings they do interact with others then they demonstrate love and wisdom which comes directly from their non-dual awareness.

 

I'm getting lost in a love triangle... what is the definition of love you are using?   emotion or non-emotion ?

[dawei]

3 hours ago, Spotless said:

The true center is not a localization.

It is not the centered heart nor the area to the right or left - this is often lost in quotes and discourse.

 

Heart Centeredness is Essence Centeredness - and may be seen physically only as the subtle bodies become one.

 

I find that a very clever use of words to describe something beyond words, thank you.  

[dawei]

3 hours ago, Everything said:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You don't need to wait till tomorrow to call it contrast. Because it is just variety. And always will be.

The idea to understand, is that you cannot know yourself, unless you know who you are not. So both self and "other" are necessary for the evolution of consciousness. So being and becoming are the same thing. They can work hand in hand together, if that is allowed by the individual to be realised that it is already so, for the beneficial reason of ever expansion, always has been and always will be. And no words are necessary to already allow it as it is. And realise you are part of that greatness of the ever becoming. That is who it is and what it is you truely already are and always will be.

 

Sounds like Existentialism on some level, but I follow it.

 

I think all this talk in the topic, which is rather fascinating, but what is truly awareness?  

 

Some seem to think this is just understanding but the essence is experiencing on a Oneness level.

 

How to test that?

 

Can you connect to any deity, entity, dimension, being at will ?

 

That's my meaning of truly aware.  

 

 

 

I just don't like such ideas that skirt around our physical mind.

[dwai]

3 hours ago, Spotless said:

Non-dual Awareness is without attributes?

 

Is this an assumption?

No it is an empirically verifiable fact . 

Awareness as it is, cannot ever be said to have any properties. Why? Because in order to know properties of something, awareness is a prerequisite. The only thing that is known about awareness is that it IS, always, and unaffected by anything.

 

Oh boy...now that might stir up the hornet’s nest...

 

Awareness is — in the parlance of nondualists, pure objectless consciousness. 

Quote

 

Is not Awareness an attribute?

 

No it isn’t. It is what makes attributes of things known. 

Edited January 10, 2019 by dwai

[Spotless]

33 minutes ago, dwai said:

No it is an empirically verifiable fact . 

Awareness as it is, cannot ever be said to have any properties. Why? Because in order to know properties of something, awareness is a prerequisite. The only thing that is known about awareness is that it IS, always, and unaffected by anything.

 

Oh boy...now that might stir up the hornet’s nest...

 

Awareness is — in the parlance of nondualists, pure objectless consciousness. 

 

No it isn’t. It is what makes attributes of things known. 

No hornets nest necessary - I am comfortably familiar with Objectless Awareness.

 

It would be easy to argue in any case.

 

So much of the language is unhelpful.

 

We could speak of IS-ness

 

😎

[dwai]

2 minutes ago, Spotless said:

No hornets nest necessary - I am comfortably familiar with Objectless Awareness.

I know you are.  

2 minutes ago, Spotless said:

It would be easy to argue in any case.

 

So much of the language is unhelpful.

 

We could speak of IS-ness

 

😎

Most language is ultimately unhelpful. It would be easier if we could communicate in Sanskrit  

 

[Everything]

4 hours ago, dawei said:

 

Sounds like Existentialism on some level, but I follow it.

 

I think all this talk in the topic, which is rather fascinating, but what is truly awareness?  

 

Some seem to think this is just understanding but the essence is experiencing on a Oneness level.

 

How to test that?

 

Can you connect to any deity, entity, dimension, being at will ?

 

That's my meaning of truly aware.  

 

 

 

I just don't like such ideas that skirt around our physical mind.

The most important relationship for you to realise, first and foremost, is the relationship between you (physical) and YOU (non-physical). This relationship, the harmony/agreement of it, is always perfectly indicated by your emotions. And through that allowed connection and more good felt and harmonized agreement between you and YOU,  yes you then in state of being indicated by emotions of love and joy and freedom and knowledge and such, yes you always have acces to all those things you so wish or desire. But it takes an individual to care about how they feel, to realise their own connection with their true and greater self of all that they truely are, in their ever becoming, as a greater non-physical consciousness, through which you thus then can have acces to all of that you wish to call value, connection, purpose, knowledge, etc, etc.

Edited January 10, 2019 by Everything

[Everything]

4 hours ago, dwai said:

No it is an empirically verifiable fact . 

Awareness as it is, cannot ever be said to have any properties. Why? Because in order to know properties of something, awareness is a prerequisite. The only thing that is known about awareness is that it IS, always, and unaffected by anything.

 

Oh boy...now that might stir up the hornet’s nest...

 

Awareness is — in the parlance of nondualists, pure objectless consciousness. 

 

No it isn’t. It is what makes attributes of things known. 

It might stir up a hornest nest from your point of view, because you can feel that your own greater non-physical consciousness does not FULLY agree with that statement, that your greater consciousness is "not affected" by anything. Infact, completely the opposite! You might say, yes, from your non-physical greater knowing, there is no vulnerability, no insecurity or worry, but that doesn't mean it will forever more benefit from the expansion that is due to YOUR PHYSICAL LIFE that you are living here! And that is why it is so valuable to allow your connection to your greater non-physical knowing, to begin to realise all the good things you have created for yourself through your living here in this contrasting variety that is of your physical life, that has caused YOU to expand and become more. However, you never get to realise your own expansion, that is already a given, including all the things you can possibly want that are thus then yours for the living of in utmost joy and worthiness and undoubtful deservingness, unless you allow your physical you more fully allow connection with your greater non-physical You. And you always can allow that more than first and foremost caring about how you feel, and feel better, regardless of the conditions of your life, meaning focus in an unconditional way, such that your thoughts and that of your inner greater non-physical being and all of its knowing thus then harmonizes, aligns, synchronises and agree with one another, indicated also by emotions that can be felt and may be defined through words such as love and joy and freedom and knowledge and appreciation, etc. But more importantly than the words, you can only ever know and thus ever more allow the greater realisation of your individual allowance of your connection with your Greater You, by virtue of how you are feeling as you are thinking/focusing your thought creator mechanism that thus then emmits your energy in motion, which can be felt through your indicators of emotions, what you are doing with your own energy that is allowing your greater knowing or not in any given moment. And that is the freedom you all seek, to be connected evermore, and your ability to feel the degree of allowance of that connection by you in your ever single moment in life, and you all have that thus then also every single moment of your life, that guidance of your emotions, that can always help you, allow you, guide you to your greater very own and more fuller allowing of your very own more harmonized and unified and synchronised and aligned and allowed connection with all of your greater knowing, in every single possible moment of your life. That you as a non-physical greater consciousness always have acces to all of your greater knowing of infinite intelligence and pure positive Source Energy, and the fullest most expanded state that it always has fully become by virtue of your valuable living here in this contrasting environment of variety, that CERTAINLY causes your greater being to expand far and wide beyond evermore by every valuable life experience that you live here, evermore in its ever state of ever becoming that is one and the same as its ever being. And you as a physical being are an extension of that. A small part of this greater consciousness of who you really are is focused here, in your physical body. And you have the freedom to focus yourself in lesser allowed connection, which then also would be indicated by the emotions you feel, of disharmony and discord, that thus then indicates your lesser allowed connection to all of your greater knowing and being and ever becoming. Helpful right? The value of emotions is tremedous, and oh so very personal and real and vivid. What can ever matter more in life than that. What can ever be more personal than that, more important, more purposeful and more capable of guiding you in every single moment of your life to the fulfillment of all your greater wanting in life and the allowing of the full blown realisation of all of it, always through the path of lesser resistance, of releasing resistance, of feeling relief and feeling slightly better and slightly better, untill you're completely and fully harmonized and synchronised once more, and live the joyous life that you have come here to live, as an eternal consciousness of unwavering worthiness and that you deserve all of it evermore. For it is all for you, here and now, always, as you are on the leading edge of creation, right here and now, you are the further most expanded state of being of all that is. And you allow the full blown realisation of it evermore, from within and thus also from without, by virtue of your ability to feel what you are doing with your own energy that is allowing that connection to your greater knowing or not in any given moment. You can always feel that, always. And that feeling can thus then guide you towards a better feeling, and thus then you can always allow your greater connection to your greater knowing.

Edited January 10, 2019 by Everything

[Apech]

5 hours ago, dawei said:

 

I'm getting lost in a love triangle... what is the definition of love you are using?   emotion or non-emotion ?

 

An emotion means a feeling that moves energy.  So you could call love an emotion if you want but then you have to distinguish love from desire - and particularly real love from romantic attachment which is a different thing.

 

 

Edited January 10, 2019 by Apech

[Everything]

2 hours ago, Apech said:

 

An emotion means a feeling that moves energy.  So you could call love an emotion if you want but then you have to distinguish love from desire - and particularly real love from romantic attachment which is a different thing.

 

 

I would call emotion an indication or "primary manifestation" of the energy in motion that you are summoning, by virtue of focusing your thought creator mechanism, energy momentum and expansion (speed and amplitude or power due to law of momentum), and allowing that same energy or not (harmony or discord). So the harmony or discord doesn't come from the energy you are summoning and drawing unto you, it is caused by your physical mind vibrational thought patterning that determines the resistance that causes negative emotion. The degree of harmony/alignment/allowance or discord/disharmony/resistance between you (physical) and the Greater You (non-physical) in any given moment is always perfectly and accurately indicated by your emotions. The words you use to describe these emotions are not important, but your feeling it, is.

So if there is resistance or discord, you are still ever becoming, but the experience is not pleasant, as there is resistance to the very same energy you are summoning towards you object of attention in any given moment in time. Thus one has to find a way of approaching that subject and thinking about it, from a state of being that is less resistant to that same energy you are summoning of your ever greater knowing and becoming of your non-physical greater consciousness.

If you are fully in alignment with your non-physical greater knowing as you are focusing your mind creator mechanism, the experience, primary manifestation (emotions) and secondary manifestations (physical life experiences) are all positive. There is health, well-being, abbundance, creativity, focus, clarity, intelligence, genius, powerful momentum, love, passion, joy, all throughout the individuals life and all that is of it, as it radiates out evermore, for the fulfillment of your unique individual life experience and purpose, including the allowing of Source Consciousness' perspective to flow fully through you for the unyielding benefit of all those who are around you who may benefit tremendously from your presence in such a case.

Edited January 10, 2019 by Everything

[rideforever]

Things change when you feel the substance inside you, when talking of emotions disembodied then .... not feel existence yet.
Many people like to not-exist because human life is corrupt.
But goes :
humancorruption > non-exist > exist

i.e when the Father is known the Son is known

 

 

[freeform]

13 hours ago, Apech said:

I think the sign that non-dual awareness emanates love and indeed wisdom is that it is a measure of truly awakened people that they demonstrate both love and wisdom as a natural effect of their enlightenment.  OK it is possible that some realised beings simply abstract themselves out of existence, don't interact with others or say anything.  But if realised beings they do interact with others then they demonstrate love and wisdom which comes directly from their non-dual awareness.

 

 

 

The virtues, the De, are said to be the fragmented aspects of Yuan Shen.

 

The Shen - the spirit of the heart is responsible for a range of emotions from joy to love to excitement. Through cultivation these emotions and feelings are transformed into a Virtue (De) - a virtuous ‘state’ (rather than emotion). The De of the Shen is Contentment 

 

The Hun - emotion: anger - virtuous state: Patience

 

The Yi - emotion: worry - virtuous state: Compassion

 

The Po - emotion: sadness - virtuous state: Bravery / strength of conviction

 

The Zhi - emotion: fear - virtuous state: Wisdom

 

When the Dao (Yuan Shen) is lost, De arises, when De is lost, decency is required, when decency is lost, then justice is required.

 

An awakened person (not enlightened) should emenate each of these virtues. And each of these De will have an objectively verifiable, physiological signs of its manifestation. At least in the Daoist lineages I’ve trained in.

 

This last part is almost always left out of most schools because it often humbles both the students and the teachers. Particularly in schools where the virtues are cultivated by using your imagination.

 

I also find it interesting that compassion is not the virtue of the Shen, but of the Yi...