Heat in the heart zang leads to more desire, correct?

[yuuichi]

Just an assumption of mine.

[voidisyinyang]

On 2/14/2019 at 12:08 PM, yuuichi said:

Just an assumption of mine.

when you build up qi - then with the eyes open - the qi goes out of the eyes - the yin qi of the liver goes out of the eyes via the heart with the eyes open. This causes the heart to then have passion. What's the connection of the heart to the lungs?

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When the heart is in excess it will over-act upon the lungs...

At this stage, when the foundation has been laid with all 
centres (and channels) cleared and no obstructions remain¬ 
ing, if the practiser is not strongly supported by a dogged 
determination, gives rise to passion when seeing beautiful 
forms, and lets spirit chase after sense data, once he slips, all 
previous progress will be fruitless. It is like upsetting the 
contents of a basket by turning it upside down.

So the yin shen going out of the eyes is the "hun soul" but the po soul of the lungs "grabs onto" the hun soul - if your eyes then obsess over what the heart sees. Just study "evil fire" of the heart - in the book Taoist Yoga: alchemy and immortality.

https://archive.org/stream/TaoistYogaAlchemyAndImmortalityLuKuanYCharlesLuk/Taoist Yoga Alchemy and Immortality Lu K’uan Yü (Charles Luk)_djvu.txt

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When the eyes twinkle and the heart vibrates in sympathy, this is the ‘chief fire’ (chun huo), also called the heart’s fire. It is evil fire aroused by thoughts and should be avoided by the practiser. When the eyes see the opposite sex thereby giving rise to (evil) thoughts, the heart moves in sympathy and arouses the genital organ, if the practiser then tries to gather the alchemical agent, the impure generative fluid will produce an illusory agent. This illusory agent is likened to a football which, being kicked continuously, will lose air and shrink. Likewise as thoughts increase the evil fire which becomes more intense, the genital organ will be aroused more frequently. If you wrongly think that the alchemical agent is being produced and strive to gather it, your efforts will be sterile, and you will only harm yourself. Your body seems to be strong (so long as this evil fire lasts) but your health suffers from the consequences and will really decline. Frequent arousal of sexual desire is likened to putting straw on the head while going to extinguish a big fire; you will only injure your body, and will not only fail to achieve immortality but will also run the risk of shortening your life. Therefore, you should avoid gathering the alchemical agent when your heart’s fire is aroused by evil thoughts.

and there is more:

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There are also meditators who (inadvertently) arouse the evil fire in the liver and kidneys which blurs their vision, and causes them to see double, their eyes to become astigmatic, the pupils to enlarge and the white to redden.

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If the practiser wants to avoid stirring this evil fire which can drain away the ‘precious thing’ at night, he should know that the trouble is caused by unwholesome food and intoxicating drink, by perverse thoughts and desires, by hot baths which scatter the heat of the elixir and by (uncontrolled) fire that scorches the body. This has many causes but mainly results from not taking precautions against the misuse of fire during the training. The practiser may also feel hot in the heart which causes him to be parched with thirst and to eat and drink too much. If he fails to overcome this fire his ‘most precious thing’ will drain away at night.

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he should make pointed concentration to take hold of the black object firmly, breathe in fresh air to drive it into the lower tan t’ien (under the navel) and breathe out slowly to expel the inner evil fire which will then vanish; he will then feel truly at ease. There is no fixed number of inhalations to drive the dark object into the lower abdomen and of exhalations to expel the malefic fire, but they should be continued until the evil fire is completely extinguished.

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the drain of positive vitality caused by the failure to stop fire in order to gather the macro- cosmic alchemical agent, but in your case your genital organ is aroused and shaken by the evil fire (of passion) due to lack of vitality and the weakness of the alchemical agent; if you do not gather more vitality and block the discharge channel for the generative fluid you cannot prevent the positive principle draining away.’

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The outer agent which you have gathered is an illusory false one created by wrong thoughts; hence the nocturnal emission. This illusory agent is the generative fluid which contains the evil fire that develops when it is aroused by the vital force. The genital organ swells and quivers when the generative and vital forces vibrate causing this evil fire to scorch the testicles and so dilate the generative duct to drain the positive principle away. You have wrongly used this generative fluid which cannot be transmuted into immortal seed when it contains the evil fire (of passion) and cannot be employed to produce the macrocosmic agent;

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Heart’s fire is the fire of passion excited by evil thoughts which arouse sexual desire; this is ‘chief fire’ (chun huo) or evil fire which should be avoided.

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True nature is prenatal vitality [yuan qi] in its cell (ch’i pao) on the top of the medulla oblongata [the pineal gland third eye]. If vitality is allowed to pass through the back of the head and down to the base of the spine to drain away through the anus and genital organ, its exhaustion will cause death. This exhaustion of vitality is in no way related to the breath that comes in and out through the nostrils and mouth. In nocturnal emissions the generative fluid carries with it (some) vitality which thus leaves its vibrating cell in the centre of the brain [pineal gland] to pass into the spine and then reach its base to drain away. It is this vitality which animates spermatozoa which, in its absence, become lifeless and non-reproductive. This cell is linked with the brain above it, the base of the spine below and the whole nervous system in the body and is the source of the vital energy of life. When the heart is stirred by sexual desires, it is impossible to draw back this vital force which will drain down in the marrow of the spine to leave the body; it will then be impossible to cultivate (eternal) life. That which so drains off is prenatal vitality and although sexual intercourse has not actually occurred, it nevertheless runs away by the genital gate.

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For the death of the earthly heart exposes the moonlight of (essential) nature which is always screened by the dust of passions so long as the mortal mind is allowed to exist. ...

In your meditation when you achieve utter still¬ 
ness the inner mechanism suddenly dilates and quivers in 
the absence of evil thoughts that stir the passionate heart. 
This is caused by the vibration of vitality in the lower tan 
t’ien centre (under the navel) in spite of the absence of 
thoughts. If the practiser does not recognise this vibrating 
vitality he will achieve nothing.

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Edited February 16, 2019 by voidisyinyang

[dwai]

On 2/14/2019 at 12:08 PM, yuuichi said:

Just an assumption of mine.

I agree that they are interrelated. By desire , if you mean sexual desire, then, in my experience, it generates  the greatest amount of heat in the heart. The key then is not resistance but to let go. Passions are 100% rooted in the mind. If we are able to observe and detect the changes in the mind, we can let go of passions. 

[voidisyinyang]

On 2/20/2019 at 8:30 AM, dwai said:

I agree that they are interrelated. By desire , if you mean sexual desire, then, in my experience, it generates  the greatest amount of heat in the heart. The key then is not resistance but to let go. Passions are 100% rooted in the mind. If we are able to observe and detect the changes in the mind, we can let go of passions. 

 

The mind is actually the shen going out of the eyes - and so the key is actually the Lower Magpie Bridge - this is the secret that I give SEVEN different references to in my training manual - linked below.