dlao Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) I have heard before on occasions we can use the book of change for meditation and healing I'm curious how to do that is there a starting guide text (possibly of ancient times translated in English)? Edited March 25, 2019 by dlao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted March 26, 2019 There is a correspondence between the trigrams and specific body parts/organs. You can use this connection to help collect information about illness and possible cures. I'm sure someone here is skilled at TCM and can give you a detailed description. I tend towards the cerebral in my practice. That's something I am continuously struggling to avoid. That said, the I Ching provides a nice balance between cerebral and visceral experience. It's not uncommon for me to spend many hours pouring over a reading, letting the hexagram sit with me as I turn the images, judgments, and changing lines over in my mind while allowing myself to feel the relationships between the component trigrams and individual lines. I suppose you could call that a form of meditation. Wilhelm's version of the I Ching is quite detailed and includes much supplemental data. If you don't have a copy of that translation in your library then I highly recommend getting a copy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dlao Posted March 26, 2019 thanks for sharing your thoughts I'm inclined to do a similar thing sometimes getting carried away for hours and get doubts about my own interpretations which I want to be correct in a way but my knowledge is probably worst at best when it comes to healing or getting insight through meditation I had the Wilhelm version for most part of my life but changed to a different version I found the Wilhelm version a bit too much European and wanted to get more down towards the daoist goodies instead connecting dots it's very difficult for me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lifeforce Posted April 2, 2019 Your best bet is on reading 'The Taoist I Ching' by Thomas Cleary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted April 2, 2019 am I seriously the only person in the entire world that treats 'em as direct expressions 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudfoot Posted April 3, 2019 8 hours ago, joeblast said: am I seriously the only person in the entire world that treats 'em as direct expressions Yes 😁 Well, no, but everybody that does that have different approaches. But your description in your ppd is excellent. Bruce Frantzis have an I Ching meditation, but the focus there is on getting to the empty space in the middle of the bagwa. Elliott:Wuji qigong and the secret of Immortality, also have a practice. And you can discuss whether it is complete or not😁 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rideforever Posted April 3, 2019 On 25/03/2019 at 4:53 PM, dlao said: I have heard before on occasions we can use the book of change for meditation and healing I'm curious how to do that is there a starting guide text (possibly of ancient times translated in English)? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wuji-Qi-Gong-Secret-Immortality/dp/0978639944 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted April 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Mudfoot said: Yes 😁 Well, no, but everybody that does that have different approaches. But your description in your ppd is excellent. Bruce Frantzis have an I Ching meditation, but the focus there is on getting to the empty space in the middle of the bagwa. Elliott:Wuji qigong and the secret of Immortality, also have a practice. And you can discuss whether it is complete or not😁 hehe, for the pre heaven bagua, you can think something like sfq's merging of yin and yang inside of me framework there yijing is an alchemy codex of sorts, but one needs a foundation (i.e. flux in energy centers) in order to execute its patterns - the huo hou tu depicts it pretty well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudfoot Posted April 3, 2019 My favourite textual sources says the same, work with the LDT before the trigrams. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites